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January 30, 2018, 10:44:31 AM
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Problems with the time for processing a single transaction, and sometimes even a complete denial of the service of small transfers made the investors look for an alternative. As a result, the capitalization of individual crypto-currencies has increased several times. At least 3 crypto-currencies today have high chances and real tools to outstrip bitcoin by capitalization in 2018.

1.Ethereum
The ethereum, like BTC, uses blockchain technology as its main core. Therefore, like traditional crypto currency, it is decentralized and perfectly suited for anonymous financial transactions. Capitalization has increased more than 100 times a year

In addition to the technology of smart contracts, which enabled ETH to increase the speed of transactions, the creators of Ethereum offered to use their platform for various ICO-projects. Crypto currency is seriously interested in representatives of various industries and individual governments. Given all this, there is a real chance that the capitalization of the Etherium in 2018 will exceed the total cost of the BTC.

2.Ripple
The main impetus for the growth of the crypto currency was received only in mid-2017. XRP actively began to increase its own capitalization at the expense of new investors amid news about the rapid integration of service with such giants as American Express and Banco Santander. The main advantages of Ripple are low commissions and instant transactions. According to XRP developers, the average time per operation does not exceed four seconds.

3.Stellar
Developers of XLM have managed to combine the best in the one crypto currency that is known to the digital market in January 2018. Like Ripple, Stellar offers its investors the fastest transactions: from two to five seconds. But, like Ethereum, XLM decided to provide its platform for ICO developers. But unlike ETH, the emphasis is not on the financial sector, but on transnational companies. In October 2017, IBM announced the collaboration with Stellar.

The probability of this event is high, but is not 100%. How do you think the bitcoin will give up its positions or not and how will everything happen?
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January 30, 2018, 10:47:27 AM
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The probability of this event is high, but is not 100%. How do you think the bitcoin will give up its positions or not and how will everything happen?[/i]
Apple and oranges.
Bitcoin is trully revolutionary, if you compare bitcoin to ripple, sorry but you have no idea about technology behind this inventions.
Bitcoin is most stable/safe currency out there. Its slow because of that, but security is more important than anything else here. Don't worry about bitcoin, its best store of value in the world.

Ethereum is just experiment, and ripple is centralised garbage.

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January 30, 2018, 10:58:22 AM
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Bitcoin still the King in the crypto world for long time.

Problems with the time for processing a single transaction, and sometimes even a complete denial of the service of small transfers made the investors look for an alternative. As a result, the capitalization of individual crypto-currencies has increased several times. At least 3 crypto-currencies today have high chances and real tools to outstrip bitcoin by capitalization in 2018.

1.Ethereum
The ethereum, like BTC, uses blockchain technology as its main core. Therefore, like traditional crypto currency, it is decentralized and perfectly suited for anonymous financial transactions. Capitalization has increased more than 100 times a year

In addition to the technology of smart contracts, which enabled ETH to increase the speed of transactions, the creators of Ethereum offered to use their platform for various ICO-projects. Crypto currency is seriously interested in representatives of various industries and individual governments. Given all this, there is a real chance that the capitalization of the Etherium in 2018 will exceed the total cost of the BTC.

2.Ripple
The main impetus for the growth of the crypto currency was received only in mid-2017. XRP actively began to increase its own capitalization at the expense of new investors amid news about the rapid integration of service with such giants as American Express and Banco Santander. The main advantages of Ripple are low commissions and instant transactions. According to XRP developers, the average time per operation does not exceed four seconds.

3.Stellar
Developers of XLM have managed to combine the best in the one crypto currency that is known to the digital market in January 2018. Like Ripple, Stellar offers its investors the fastest transactions: from two to five seconds. But, like Ethereum, XLM decided to provide its platform for ICO developers. But unlike ETH, the emphasis is not on the financial sector, but on transnational companies. In October 2017, IBM announced the collaboration with Stellar.

The probability of this event is high, but is not 100%. How do you think the bitcoin will give up its positions or not and how will everything happen?

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January 30, 2018, 11:21:16 AM
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Problems with the time for processing a single transaction, and sometimes even a complete denial of the service of small transfers made the investors look for an alternative. As a result, the capitalization of individual crypto-currencies has increased several times. At least 3 crypto-currencies today have high chances and real tools to outstrip bitcoin by capitalization in 2018.

1.Ethereum
The ethereum, like BTC, uses blockchain technology as its main core. Therefore, like traditional crypto currency, it is decentralized and perfectly suited for anonymous financial transactions. Capitalization has increased more than 100 times a year

In addition to the technology of smart contracts, which enabled ETH to increase the speed of transactions, the creators of Ethereum offered to use their platform for various ICO-projects. Crypto currency is seriously interested in representatives of various industries and individual governments. Given all this, there is a real chance that the capitalization of the Etherium in 2018 will exceed the total cost of the BTC.

2.Ripple
The main impetus for the growth of the crypto currency was received only in mid-2017. XRP actively began to increase its own capitalization at the expense of new investors amid news about the rapid integration of service with such giants as American Express and Banco Santander. The main advantages of Ripple are low commissions and instant transactions. According to XRP developers, the average time per operation does not exceed four seconds.

3.Stellar
Developers of XLM have managed to combine the best in the one crypto currency that is known to the digital market in January 2018. Like Ripple, Stellar offers its investors the fastest transactions: from two to five seconds. But, like Ethereum, XLM decided to provide its platform for ICO developers. But unlike ETH, the emphasis is not on the financial sector, but on transnational companies. In October 2017, IBM announced the collaboration with Stellar.

The probability of this event is high, but is not 100%. How do you think the bitcoin will give up its positions or not and how will everything happen?


You've listed some good and promising coins here but I wouldn't go so far to say that Bitcoin's time is running out. Insane transaction fees are not always there. Right now, for example, you can pay $4 for your transaction to be confirmed within 30 minutes or you can pay only $0.5 and it will be confirmed within 2 hours. I know they can be high again but I'm sure this issue will be resolved one way or the other in the future and Bitcoin will remain number one, as always.

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January 30, 2018, 11:24:15 AM
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I fail to understand, why Bitcoin is not trying to solve slow transaction issue, miners can confirm more transactions with less fees, which will increase their earning. Bitcoin traders will also be happy.

If Bitcoin refuse to improve, it will be left behind like Dinosaurs.
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January 30, 2018, 11:24:36 AM
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time is running out I think the exact time to buy a bitcoin is the new currency, bitcoin this year 100,000 dollars of flowers .
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January 30, 2018, 11:46:26 AM
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Started out sensible but then you list Stellar and cant take it seriously.  Nothing against the coin but its near 20x smaller, thats too large a gap to make up unless Bitcoin crashed. Neo and frankly Bitcoin Cash have more credible chance of over taking Bitcoin.

A lot is made about Ripple, and the use by banks.  I think there is some misinformation, article by Bloomberg noted some banks are only testing Ripple and looking at RippleNet (or similar) which is from the same team but not using Ripple token.  Ripple will not take over from conventional inter-bank transfers without regulatory approvals, but they could do conventional transfers over RippleNet.  We need to be very cautious about the news from this area that may confuse these.

Ethereum need about 65% rise to overtake Bitcoin, so thats quite a realistic scenario.

I note also the Bitcoin dominance is 33.5%, only 1/3 of the market.  Change is afoot.
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January 30, 2018, 11:52:31 AM
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From around 2013 to 2014 there was a lot of hard work trying to get merchants and others to accept bitcoin. I remember euphoric posts on this forum when Overstock enabled bitcoin and when Steam and Stripe did it too.

We still have Overstock, but Steam and Stripe have dumped bitcoin. Unless we can get them back (and encourage other merchants to enable bitcoin) then bitcoin is dead as a payment processor.

An alt will take it's place, but am not sure which one yet. (It won't be Ripple).

 
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January 30, 2018, 11:54:14 AM
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Problems with the time for processing a single transaction, and sometimes even a complete denial of the service of small transfers made the investors look for an alternative. As a result, the capitalization of individual crypto-currencies has increased several times. At least 3 crypto-currencies today have high chances and real tools to outstrip bitcoin by capitalization in 2018.
We need coin for micro transactions and bitcoin isn't one any more.
Hopefully lightning network should this solve problem... Undecided
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1.Ethereum
Will face the same thing, high fees - slow transactions.
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2.Ripple
Bankers coin. Don't like it, won't use it and won't support it.
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3.Stellar
Now this is something which I have been watching lately, I honestly think among all altcoins stellar has biggest potential but it is far away from replacing bitcoin.
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January 30, 2018, 11:55:26 AM
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Actually we already experience all kinds of transaction like in binance they already have btc to fiat,bnb to fiat,eth to fiat so even btc will be similar to other coins or some altcoins ahead already in btc at some way still it's valuable,I say even we replace btc still it's have already value in crypto world so always think that and it's still profitable.
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January 30, 2018, 11:58:00 AM
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There are many worthy cryptocurrencies, but Bitcoin is like a basis on which the whole  cryptoworld stands. If we will try replace BTC by something else - we risk losing the balance of cryptocurrency, nobody wants that.


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January 30, 2018, 12:37:40 PM
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There are many worthy cryptocurrencies, but Bitcoin is like a basis on which the whole  cryptoworld stands. If we will try replace BTC by something else - we risk losing the balance of cryptocurrency, nobody wants that.



In what you are saying we see how when bitcoin takes a fall in value it has a domino affect to other crypto currencies. There are many currencies that do better in regards to transactions and if something was to completely overtake bitcoin it would have to be a slow process or everything else would crumble.

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January 30, 2018, 12:55:20 PM
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I'm coming to the conclusion that slow transaction times are actually good for Bitcoin. Bitcoin wasn't designed to be a high use micro-payment system, whatever the white papers and other comments might say. The 21 million coin cap, and the 10 minute block generation average will prevent massive adoption for everyday payments. However, Bitcoin is great as a store of wealth, and a payment service for digital assets. It is also a good way to make consolidated payments of affiliate bonuses and rewards.

The addition of more options associated with signatures can only help to improve this. I believe that we will see a rocky ride for a while whilst Bitcoin matures into the crypto gold standard, but the long term trend for its value can only be upwards.

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January 30, 2018, 12:57:25 PM
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I fail to understand, why Bitcoin is not trying to solve slow transaction issue, miners can confirm more transactions with less fees, which will increase their earning. Bitcoin traders will also be happy.

If Bitcoin refuse to improve, it will be left behind like Dinosaurs.
Just wait until lightning networks launch! For sure all of your speculations about bitcoin will change. The problem of slow process at high transaction cost will be solved. Wait until the time of bitcoin will awake because all of our sudden fear of its downfall will change.

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January 30, 2018, 01:02:10 PM
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I think the mistake of thinking that the capitalization of the coin is an indicator of its value. Even if capitalization Ethereum compares to the market capitalization of bitcoin between them will be the abyss. Bitcoin was and will remain an asset for safe storage and movement of big capital. It will always be in demand. Bitcoin is the cryptocurrency elite.
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January 30, 2018, 01:07:25 PM
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Bitcoin. Time is running out.

I'm all with you that bitcoins time is running out. And I do think that Ethereum will become king soon too BUT Ripple and Stellar? WTF? ^^
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At least 3 crypto-currencies today have high chances and real tools to outstrip bitcoin by capitalization in 2018.

ETH - has scaling issues aswell, but yes, it can outstrip bitcoin by market cap (not like anyone cares about market cap except for crypto newcomers)

Ripple - centralized bankers shitcoin that goes against the fundamentals of cryptocurrencies and what they're based on. Obviously, Ripple has a high chance of getting the #1 spot by capitalization, but not because investors are interested in Ripple, but because the circulating supply represents 40% of the total supply, so if the team behind Ripple decides to release 20m XRP from the total supply, its market cap will instantly go up without needing the help of investors.

Stellar - a project with potential that is playing the long game, the main problem is the unreleased supply, it's worth mentioning that Stellar devs own 80% XLM, so if the devs decide to release all those lumens little by little into the market, it can become a serious issue for investors. It can go above Bitcoin by capitalization, then again, does it matter?

"Time is running out"? this sounds completely biased, I can say the same thing about time running out for altcoins because Bitcoin is going to implement lightning network, and SegWit widespread adoption will reach its peak, which is going to make Bitcoin bulldoze every altcoin in the market.

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The question is do you like walking down to the train station whilst waiting for transaction to complete and then
sitting on 3rd class seats ("Of-Block" Lightning) or do you want to pay $20 in fees to go first class on the steam train when you can
now but cars with electrical or petrol engines.

3rd class means sitting with beggars and thieves who are unemployed miners that mugged you last week and said it was a transactions fee


Mining is CPU-wars and Intel, AMD like it nearly as much as big oil likes miners wasting electricity. Is this what mankind has come too.
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January 30, 2018, 02:12:14 PM
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Ripple - centralized bankers shitcoin that goes against the fundamentals of cryptocurrencies

Do these bankers charge fees and interest on money by any chance  ?

Clearly you have not seen this network map https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/
or even taken the time to read the lightning network white paper yet that you can read here
https://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper.pdf

Open the document and search for the term "Saving account" and "Spending Account" if you don't understand the
technical side of the document or just do a word count on the word "Fee"

Ripple is not being pumped up using counterfeit money like the USDT  

Let me think now $55 peeks fees or using Ripple and paying $0.001 per transactions

 

Mining is CPU-wars and Intel, AMD like it nearly as much as big oil likes miners wasting electricity. Is this what mankind has come too.
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Ripple - centralized bankers shitcoin that goes against the fundamentals of cryptocurrencies

Do these bankers charge fees and interest on money by any chance  ?

Clearly you have not seen this network map https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/
or even taken the time to read the lightning network white paper yet that you can read here
https://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper.pdf

Open the document and search for the term "Saving account" and "Spending Account" if you don't understand the
technical side of the document or just do a word count on the word "Fee"

Ripple is not being pumped up using counterfeit money like the USDT  

Let me think now $55 peeks fees or using Ripple and paying $0.001 per transactions

 

I suppose, tomahawk9 means that Ripple looks like US Dollar. The system is centralized, the emission is unlimited, the printing press is in one hand, the main participants and investors are the banking system. It goes against the fundamentals of cryptocurrencies

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