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February 01, 2018, 04:53:08 PM
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Anything in today world is moving so fast that it's impossible to make any real prediction.
Of course, may be we are moving toward a new world order, mastered by Illuminati/Reptilians/Rotschild/Bildenberg or something so (choose your preferred conspiracy theory), but bitcoin is the exact contrary of centralization.
To control bitcoin you need to control at least 51% of the blockchain, and this is something beyond the possibility of every actual power.
But, who knows? We'll see.

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February 02, 2018, 10:56:55 AM
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This is just theory. As someone already stated, Facebook, Google and other own all our data and metadata, so they have an unlimited power to influence the market.
This is not conspiracy, this is a fact.
For the moment they use their power just for commercial purposes, but in any moment they can switch on the political control.
We'll see, the danger is more real than we think.



Anything in today world is moving so fast that it's impossible to make any real prediction.
Of course, may be we are moving toward a new world order, mastered by Illuminati/Reptilians/Rotschild/Bildenberg or something so (choose your preferred conspiracy theory), but bitcoin is the exact contrary of centralization.
To control bitcoin you need to control at least 51% of the blockchain, and this is something beyond the possibility of every actual power.
But, who knows? We'll see.

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February 02, 2018, 10:18:09 PM
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It's a fact that we are going to a complete control over population.
Theoretically bitcoin is a tool for freedom, but I predict that who is in power will find a way to control us.
For example, what if we'll be forced to make a tattoo with our Qrcode on an arm?
Or why not an underskin chip?
This is no sf, this is the next reality.

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February 03, 2018, 01:45:56 AM
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Right now everyone is excited about the cryptocurrencies thinking that it will be the future, and surely they are right, but what kind of future?

It is not a secret for those who want to realize that the control of the world is centralized in powerful and influential families that can control the economy of even a continent, and with capitalism, controlling the economy you can control any sector.

What if, with the globalization of cryptocurrencies, they obtained the key they need to solidify their centralized control over the world? And if in reality someone knew how to hack the blockchain?

And that we were all wrong, thinking that we are decentralizing the economy, when in reality we are contributing to the creation of what could be the perdition of our liberty.

(I used google translate since I do not fully master English Wink )

Same thoughts ran in my head when I first step into the crypto-currencies. Because digital world has always a way in, I doubt that time that there is a way to hack the blockchain. But through research I learned that there is no computer that can cracked it and no human can intervene in the system. They can hack services and platform but not the blockchain itself. You're going to learn that along the way. Also blockchain is digital and digital things improve through time. We still have a long journey to see it's full application and peak power in the field of finance.
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February 04, 2018, 03:42:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure that we are going toward a centralized control, but I don't think this will happen by controlling the actual cryptocurrency.
Probably, big company as facebook or google will create their own coin, a totally centralized one of course, and they'll claim that "this is a real crytpo, and a very safe one".
And people will believe them. We'll see.

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February 04, 2018, 04:44:24 PM
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Right now everyone is excited about the cryptocurrencies thinking that it will be the future, and surely they are right, but what kind of future?

It is not a secret for those who want to realize that the control of the world is centralized in powerful and influential families that can control the economy of even a continent, and with capitalism, controlling the economy you can control any sector.

What if, with the globalization of cryptocurrencies, they obtained the key they need to solidify their centralized control over the world? And if in reality someone knew how to hack the blockchain?

And that we were all wrong, thinking that we are decentralizing the economy, when in reality we are contributing to the creation of what could be the perdition of our liberty.

(I used google translate since I do not fully master English Wink )
Bitcoin uses the same cryptography that banks and military institutions use, so if someone could break bitcoin they could break the security systems of everything around the world, those with such power will need to be completely unified in their view in order to only attack bitcoin so we will need very focused and driven individuals for that to happen, while that is a possibility the question is why? Why would they go to all the trouble of doing this just to destroy it later?
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February 04, 2018, 05:03:51 PM
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Wrong perception, you need to learn about the blockchain first. Hacking entire decentralized network is simply impossible however attacking individual accounts can be possible but probability is still too low.
If you are referring the regulation of cryptos then it has nothing to do with the control of network, regulation is just to tax the cryptos and to legalize in the real world.
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February 05, 2018, 06:12:01 AM
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I don't think that cryptocurrency is a centralized tool to control  tue world. The only one centralized tool is bank, there is the capital gather. Bitcoin come with decentralization concept. The only one problem is bitcoin still has low liquidity, it's not spread evenly. I hope there is no one can break bitcoin encryption. Honestly I am sure that the wealth of world will be spread evenly if people use bitcoin, why? Today fiat is printed by governments and the value is decrease because of that. Currency that appropriate for us is gold only, but its hard to use, it will be better if bitcoin become the representation of gold.


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February 06, 2018, 11:03:22 PM
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By definition, cryptocurrencies are NOT centralized, so they can't be a tool to control the world.
But... only a small group of people can understand what is the difference between centralized and decentralized.
So, it's very possible that a government will create a coin saying that it's the real bitcoin, and normal people will believe it.
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March 27, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
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It's not true: the only way to control bitoicn is to control the blockchain, that is something too big even for a superpower as USA or China.
What it's very possible is that a big corp, as Facebook or Google will launch his own cryptocurrency saying that it's better than bitcoin, and - with theri manipulative power - people will believe them.
This will be the real world control.
Think about: Facebookcoin as the only cuurency accepted...
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March 27, 2018, 10:27:46 PM
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Right now everyone is excited about the cryptocurrencies thinking that it will be the future, and surely they are right, but what kind of future?

It is not a secret for those who want to realize that the control of the world is centralized in powerful and influential families that can control the economy of even a continent, and with capitalism, controlling the economy you can control any sector.

What if, with the globalization of cryptocurrencies, they obtained the key they need to solidify their centralized control over the world? And if in reality someone knew how to hack the blockchain?

And that we were all wrong, thinking that we are decentralizing the economy, when in reality we are contributing to the creation of what could be the perdition of our liberty.

(I used google translate since I do not fully master English Wink )

Will this controlling cryptocurrency what they means,become possible if this all digital system bussiness over the world have a chance  to become regulated and the world government can make a law to become centralized  the blockchain trade,or something they can make there own digital cryptocurrency to run as one monopoly in order to centralized the blockchain ,but all of this is blurrey and never been happen in crypto world  reality  ,because all this speculation is vice versa  the real happen of the cryptocurenncy investment ,its will growth rapidly and continue promoting social awareness to the people and community.

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March 27, 2018, 11:53:03 PM
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Well there is a possibility. But I do believe in the technology that it could provide control over human misbehavior. I'm sure block chain and cryptocurrency will provide us help to facilitate our needs much safer and much faster.

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March 28, 2018, 01:23:09 AM
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And that we were all wrong, thinking that we are decentralizing the economy, when in reality we are contributing to the creation of what could be the perdition of our liberty.

(I used google translate since I do not fully master English Wink )

I believe you say it honestly from the heart a deep and what you say is true.

If likened.
We, like an electronic component are inside a television set, of different types of components, codes, and sizes, united into one arranged on a piece of PCB. When an electric current enters, everything will work together and produce something that can be seen (images on the screen). At that time we can all be turned off simultaneously by an object called remote control.

We = Electronic components,
PCB = Market,
Electric current = cryptocurrency,
Remot control = Which controls us,
Then who's driving the remote control? ...  Roll Eyes
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March 28, 2018, 04:21:17 AM
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Right now everyone is excited about the cryptocurrencies thinking that it will be the future, and surely they are right, but what kind of future?

It is not a secret for those who want to realize that the control of the world is centralized in powerful and influential families that can control the economy of even a continent, and with capitalism, controlling the economy you can control any sector.

What if, with the globalization of cryptocurrencies, they obtained the key they need to solidify their centralized control over the world? And if in reality someone knew how to hack the blockchain?

And that we were all wrong, thinking that we are decentralizing the economy, when in reality we are contributing to the creation of what could be the perdition of our liberty.

(I used google translate since I do not fully master English Wink )

I'll contend: no to your question of whether decentralization is a secret plot to influence society into abandoning rights and freedoms.   Smiley  And: no crypto currencies will not solidify centralized control over the world.

A New World Order consisting of a one world government being "ideal". The concept of one world currencies being "superior". The idea of state based rights needing to be abolished in order to bring about innovation and progress. All of the major plots aimed at depriving people of rights and freedom are heavily centralized in origin.

Decentralization as presented by crypto merely illustrates a flipside perspective many would not normally come into contact with. It challenges a concept of one world government and other "official" stances. Breeding that type of skepticism and open debate by posing questions on topics which are neglected within mainstream society should be classified as an impetus of progress and change.

I think open dialogue and discussion on centralization versus decentralization may be one of the most pivotal and controversial topics we'll see in our day and age. There's nothing negative which can come from the idea of decentralization. All we can have is more information and knowledge being distributed perhaps where it is needed the most.

Decentralized blockchain doesn't exist. They are all controled by a few people or at best a few groups of people.  If government wanted to control them it would be trivial to do so. Or if you happen to live in China, it is trivial to do so.

The historical ignorance of the claim that "all of the major plots aimed at depriving people of rights and freedom are heavily centralized in origin" is mindblowing. Without a strong central authority there wouldn't be any civilization at all. You can argue that we traded in some of our freedom for a lot of prosperity. But personally I don't find foraging for food in the forest whole day and then dying from a cold liberating.

Decentralization is not without negative sides. Most obvious is tragedy of the commons, without an authority to oversee a common good the shareholders will just use it up until destroyed. Less obvious are the threat of local decentralized area getting hijacked by a few people, productive inefficiency as centralized system employs economy of scale, growing wealth disparity between different regions and increased complications when organizing region or nationwide efforts.

If we are talking specifically about bitcoin, its design flaws have been discussed in much lenght here. Main problem is: when mining no longer creates new bitcoins an entity with a lot of money, say a central bank, can offer to mine transactions for free or to even subsidize users to use their service driving all other miners into bankrupcy. When they are the only miner they can choose not to process transactions of people they don't like effectively killing them as in 2140 everything will be on blockchain or similar ledger.

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