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January 31, 2018, 03:52:36 PM
Last edit: February 03, 2018, 05:21:09 PM by Stedsm
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Here and there, each and every newbie is worried about the new term "Merits" when it comes to ranking up.
Let me first elaborate it for you that what are merits?

A quote from a thread by theymos over Merits:

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

Ok, I understood about Merits. But hey, why do we need it?

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

Oh! That's good. It's in the interest of forum to keep it free from spammers. But who will give us Merits?

Everyone including me are given few sMerits to be able to help each other (considering that the help is actually being provided to those who will try to help the forum by contributing with the best quality posts which really deserve an appreciation in the form of Merits). There are Merit sources too who will be giving sMerits to users whom they think - are delivering quality over quantity. But, as they are too given limited Merits to be served, I believe people like us should also come ahead and help.

Just like TMAN, I am here to share my sMerits with those who literally deserve them as hoarding them with myself won't be benefic both to me and the forum users, as well as a possible injustice to them.

So, my rules are clear:
  • Make 30 constructive (high-quality) posts in a 2 week period
  • Quote 10 best posts out of those 30 posts (however, I will be watching out for all 30, I want to see that how much knowledge do you possess of your own quality)
  • No spamming in any case

I will choose 10 persons who will be entitled with 5 sMerits each and to make it useful for the ones who really need it, I am making this thing limited for up to Jr Member levels only. This means that those who possess Member and above ranks will not be able to be a part of this (will include them later if this one proves to be a successful beginning of an era of high-quality posts).

Good luck, folks!

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January 31, 2018, 04:36:00 PM
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Finally good explanation and great project. I wish I were Jn already and possessed any valuable knoledge. But for me still too much to learn to participate
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January 31, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
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Finally good explanation and great project. I wish I were Jn already and possessed any valuable knoledge. But for me still too much to learn to participate

Read my explanation about this, once again.
I never said that this is for Jr Members alone, and if any level of Jr Member or below make 50 high-quality posts in 2 weeks period and do according to the rules, they may probably be chosen by me if they really deserve it.
Let me dissolve a myth for you: Your Rank cannot define your knowledge here.
Even Legendaries get confused sometimes and ask for help, so don't feel down and believe in yourself. Unless you do, you won't be able to know your own potential.

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January 31, 2018, 11:27:46 PM
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yeah bittalk now is better then before with that merit Smiley
also for bounty hunters will be good with signature they will have more stackes becose all went to social media.

I like this system Smiley but i loosed chance to get legendary in time Smiley

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February 01, 2018, 05:28:51 AM
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yes I totally agree with this new regulation.
we need merit to raise our rank, by making post very useful for others. so with this merit the users of bitcointalk accounts will not make post spam or useless.
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February 01, 2018, 05:53:54 AM
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It seems a bit difficult for beginners to make high-quality posts, but I think I will try my best!
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February 01, 2018, 06:21:11 AM
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Great, the forum needs these help to save the new confidence. Higher levels mean that more can be done. But if you just look at the news, comment, and discuss, then the level is less important.
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February 01, 2018, 07:34:00 AM
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  • Make 50 constructive (high-quality) posts in a 2 week period
  • Quote 10 best posts out of those 50 posts (however, I will be watching out for all 50, I want to see that how much knowledge do you possess of your own quality)
  • No spamming in any case

50 constructive posts in two weeks (3-4 posts a day) without spamming? While constructive posts are probably not spamming by definition, it may still be too many, but that's only my opinion. I may try...
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Ok it's great..
It means I have to do very hard work for the progress of rank..
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February 01, 2018, 10:53:18 AM
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Just read this topic. I am a newbie here and merit system is new to this forum right? I'm just new but this topic helped me to understand the merit system concept. Thanks for providig this by the way.

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February 01, 2018, 02:30:01 PM
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Hey, great idea! I've also been pushing for the newest among us to get merited for the quality posts they make.

For the Newbies & Jr. Members that are considering participating, I started a list of is the best merit worthy posts from the Help & Beginners board.

They weren't all written by Newbies & Jr. Members, but all are worth of a lot of merit. Good luck to you all!

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February 01, 2018, 02:54:31 PM
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  • Make 50 constructive (high-quality) posts in a 2 week period
  • Quote 10 best posts out of those 50 posts (however, I will be watching out for all 50, I want to see that how much knowledge do you possess of your own quality)
  • No spamming in any case

50 constructive posts in two weeks (3-4 posts a day) without spamming? While constructive posts are probably not spamming by definition, it may still be too many, but that's only my opinion. I may try...

Define spamming to me in your words if you consider 3 - 4 posts a day as spamming?
If you have something that's worth sharing, would you really wait to share it with everyone?
Or at least with the person who needs to know about it?

I'm taking fixed signature campaigns as an example to reply to your question here:
There are many (fixed-posts) signature campaigns that require you to make at least 25 - 30 posts in a week.
That means, you need to make at least 4 - 5 posts a day to reach that number (if you post for the whole week).
If you think that it's too much for you to make 50 CONSTRUCTIVE POSTS in a 2 week period, better stay away from this as it's not for you. Wink

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  • Make 50 constructive (high-quality) posts in a 2 week period
  • Quote 10 best posts out of those 50 posts (however, I will be watching out for all 50, I want to see that how much knowledge do you possess of your own quality)
  • No spamming in any case

50 constructive posts in two weeks (3-4 posts a day) without spamming? While constructive posts are probably not spamming by definition, it may still be too many, but that's only my opinion. I may try...

Define spamming to me in your words if you consider 3 - 4 posts a day as spamming?
If you have something that's worth sharing, would you really wait to share it with everyone?
Or at least with the person who needs to know about it?

I'm taking fixed signature campaigns as an example to reply to your question here:
There are many (fixed-posts) signature campaigns that require you to make at least 25 - 30 posts in a week.
That means, you need to make at least 4 - 5 posts a day to reach that number (if you post for the whole week).
If you think that it's too much for you to make 50 CONSTRUCTIVE POSTS in a 2 week period, better stay away from this as it's not for you. Wink

Personally I prefer to read. I do not mind posting when I have something to say and having a discussion, but writing 4 - 5 quality posts a day consistently, for weeks, may be a challenge. I suppose those signature campaigns are for highest ranks only, so I have a long way before considering them. But I'll try.
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Here and there, each and every newbie is worried about the new term "Merits" when it comes to ranking up.
Let me first elaborate it for you that what are merits?

A quote from a thread by theymos over Merits:

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

Ok, I understood about Merits. But hey, why do we need it?

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

Oh! That's good. It's in the interest of forum to keep it free from spammers. But who will give us Merits?

Everyone including me are given few sMerits to be able to help each other (considering that the help is actually being provided to those who will try to help the forum by contributing with the best quality posts which really deserve an appreciation in the form of Merits). There are Merit sources too who will be giving sMerits to users whom they think - are delivering quality over quantity. But, as they are too given limited Merits to be served, I believe people like us should also come ahead and help.

Just like TMAN, I am here to share my sMerits with those who literally deserve them as hoarding them with myself won't be benefic both to me and the forum users, as well as a possible injustice to them.

So, my rules are clear:
  • Make 50 constructive (high-quality) posts in a 2 week period
  • Quote 10 best posts out of those 50 posts (however, I will be watching out for all 50, I want to see that how much knowledge do you possess of your own quality)
  • No spamming in any case

I will choose 10 persons who will be entitled with 5 sMerits each and to make it useful for the ones who really need it, I am making this thing limited for up to Jr Member levels only. This means that those who possess Member and above ranks will not be able to be a part of this (will include them later if this one proves to be a successful beginning of an era of high-quality posts).

Good luck, folks!

You're doing nothing but encouraging spam.

Seriously.

50 - FIFTY! high-quality (who judges this?) posts in TWO WEEKS - i.e. 4 per day - to get 5 miserable sMerit from you? So they have to do that 2 months in a row to get Member status?

Are you fucking JOKING?

I'll just assume you are.

Two things will happen here:
- You'll get spammed with crap, and you'll eventually just hand out the sMerit because you're tired.
- The Newbie forum will get spammed with crap, trying to make you tired. And they will win.

I'd rather be patient and earn it off my own input, tbh.

Are the DTs (particularly DT2, who as we know are very trigger happy indeed) aware of what you are posting here?

Rethink this post, please.
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February 01, 2018, 09:06:37 PM
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Finally good explanation and great project. I wish I were Jn already and possessed any valuable knoledge. But for me still too much to learn to participate

Read my explanation about this, once again.
I never said that this is for Jr Members alone, and if any level of Jr Member or below make 50 high-quality posts in 2 weeks period and do according to the rules, they may probably be chosen by me if they really deserve it.
Let me dissolve a myth for you: Your Rank cannot define your knowledge here.
Even Legendaries get confused sometimes and ask for help, so don't feel down and believe in yourself. Unless you do, you won't be able to know your own potential.
i read all the rules. i just wanna say a big wow for this. 50 high-quality posts in just 2 weeks period? well, it's impossible for someone like me anyway to do that much posts just for getting a few merits. maybe someday i can do it 50 high quality posts in 2 weeks when i reach legendary rank in next 15 years, perhaps. but anyway, thanks for the chance. i'm pass  Sad
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February 01, 2018, 09:13:23 PM
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Here and there, each and every newbie is worried about the new term "Merits" when it comes to ranking up.
Let me first elaborate it for you that what are merits?

A quote from a thread by theymos over Merits:

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

Ok, I understood about Merits. But hey, why do we need it?

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
- Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

Oh! That's good. It's in the interest of forum to keep it free from spammers. But who will give us Merits?

Everyone including me are given few sMerits to be able to help each other (considering that the help is actually being provided to those who will try to help the forum by contributing with the best quality posts which really deserve an appreciation in the form of Merits). There are Merit sources too who will be giving sMerits to users whom they think - are delivering quality over quantity. But, as they are too given limited Merits to be served, I believe people like us should also come ahead and help.

Just like TMAN, I am here to share my sMerits with those who literally deserve them as hoarding them with myself won't be benefic both to me and the forum users, as well as a possible injustice to them.

So, my rules are clear:
  • Make 50 constructive (high-quality) posts in a 2 week period
  • Quote 10 best posts out of those 50 posts (however, I will be watching out for all 50, I want to see that how much knowledge do you possess of your own quality)
  • No spamming in any case

I will choose 10 persons who will be entitled with 5 sMerits each and to make it useful for the ones who really need it, I am making this thing limited for up to Jr Member levels only. This means that those who possess Member and above ranks will not be able to be a part of this (will include them later if this one proves to be a successful beginning of an era of high-quality posts).

Good luck, folks!

You're doing nothing but encouraging spam.

Seriously.

50 - FIFTY! high-quality (who judges this?) posts in TWO WEEKS - i.e. 4 per day - to get 5 miserable sMerit from you? So they have to do that 2 months in a row to get Member status?

Are you fucking JOKING?

I'll just assume you are.

Two things will happen here:
- You'll get spammed with crap, and you'll eventually just hand out the sMerit because you're tired.
- The Newbie forum will get spammed with crap, trying to make you tired. And they will win.

I'd rather be patient and earn it off my own input, tbh.

Are the DTs (particularly DT2, who as we know are very trigger happy indeed) aware of what you are posting here?

Rethink this post, please.

He decided the rules and you are free to partecipate or not . If you write 50 high-quality posts,will receive 5 Merit from you but,probably, also some merit from other users who read you
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I am totally new here, can i participate in this competition? And i am confused, How can you track my posts and how will you choose those members ?

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February 01, 2018, 11:40:00 PM
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It seems like a very good campain to get merits. Maybe making 10 high quality posts out of 50 seem very difficult but you should deserve it. I can join this campain. It is a good oppotunity for members to rank up.

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Have been wondering on how to get a merit for a while, now am enlightened on how merit is being awarded... Now working on my 50 constructive post to get 5 merit award from you...thanks
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February 02, 2018, 05:17:07 PM
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You're doing nothing but encouraging spam.

Elaborate please.
From my end, take an example:
What do you think, that I am going to reward people coming and asking questions like:
What is Bitcoin? How to earn it? Eh!?

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Seriously.

50 - FIFTY! high-quality (who judges this?) posts in TWO WEEKS - i.e. 4 per day - to get 5 miserable sMerit from you? So they have to do that 2 months in a row to get Member status?

Are you fucking JOKING?

Wait, it's my turn now!
Are you ******* educated enough to understand what did I write in the first post? (I'm not in a mood to say or do anything bad to anybody.)
Where did I ask them to post continuously until they get their activity to reach a Member Rank?
I said that those who are interested, can be a part of this and try their luck for some merits that they will need in order to rank up.
I am engouraging "QUALITY OVER QUANTITY" as I've literally said it in the post that I am interested in those who are willing to contribute and will only reward those who really deserve it.
By the way, I didn't give the table limited to Member Rank, but I have shown all the ranks and the amount of Merits that are needed to reach each of them. I believe you may be correct in your words when you said that they can achieve 10 Merits by making high-quality posts already and that I don't need to be a mascot for them, but then, let me make 2 things clear:
- There are merit sources, but they are also having limited merits and so, they also cannot share with each and every member (even if they are the ones who deserve) if the provided merits end up at some point (of course, giving it to people for their constructive posts but this may be like being lucky). So, users like us are taking a stand to help those who are left. Am I doing anything wrong?
- You said that my 5 ^miserable^ merits might be worth nothing to those who will achieve Member rank through their constructive posting, but you forgot one thing that such merits may be useful when you will need them in future to rank up to levels higher than Member, and you can check out the table given in OP.

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I'll just assume you are.

First read the OP, then assume, as you really need to watch it before shouting over me with your non-sensical accusations.

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Two things will happen here:
- You'll get spammed with crap, and you'll eventually just hand out the sMerit because you're tired.

First, let me know that how many people do you see asking me that they are in for this? Am I really getting spammed and filled with lots of requests? I don't think so! Second, I'm no f**king tired with my merits, but keeping them with me has no sense. You can even watch theymos' post to confirm that hoarding of merits has no sense and spreading it to people who really deserve it - IS WHAT MERIT SYSTEM IS MADE FOR!

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- The Newbie forum will get spammed with crap, trying to make you tired. And they will win.

Don't know whether I should laugh or cry out loud in joy. What are you upto?

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I'd rather be patient and earn it off my own input, tbh.

Don't worry, I'm not like you and I believe you are better than many, and can earn a very good amount of merits.
I am saying this after watching some of your posts.

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Are the DTs (particularly DT2, who as we know are very trigger happy indeed) aware of what you are posting here?

I believe that DT2 members are straight-forward enough and even if I'd have been so lucky (/sarcasm) that they were unable to see this thread, mods already check everything. If there might have been any problems to arise, they wouldn't have let me do this already.

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Rethink this post, please.

Thanks, but no thanks. I know what I am doing.

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