Electric Cars - The future ?

[d3nz]

Use nuclear wastes to make the electricity from to power the car. Nuclear battery.

This is a great idea, hoping that big companies will not eliminate this kind of technology. I think that the era of solar-powered and electric cars/motorcycles is on-demand this year since the price of gasoline/diesel is too pricey.

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[montaga]

VIP driver at Davos says he's not allowed to drive elites in electric vehicles
https://twitter.com/i/status/1615153449754132481

In other news the VIP spend some loose change
https://nypost.com/2023/01/18/prostitutes-charge-davos-attendees-2500-a-night/

[OgNasty]

I've got an electric car on order (Tesla Cybertruck) and also own an electric motorcycle (Sondors Metacycle) and I can say that they are definitely the future.  The idea that I now am able to charge my motorcycle with electricity generated for from the sun at home is pretty awesome to me.  Not to mention things like the motorcycle being totally silent, which trips people out who see it, are a game changer.  Sure, the damage that will be done to the earth to make all these batteries is something nobody wants to really acknowledge, but that's why Elon's going to get us another planet after we destroy this one. 

[Coin Gorilla]

I've been driving an EV for a bit over a year now, and I don't regret switching at all. Would I love to have a souped-up MX-5 on the side? You bet, but it's not like my life depends on it, and I'm a car guy.

Setting up a 12 kWp solar array as we speak, makes everything that much more sensible, as of now it's around 5-6k$ per year of savings on both fronts.

[coolcoinz]

The use of electric engine is definitely the good part of the whole idea. High torque, good reaction time, no gearbox, allows for the car to be lighter. The batteries are on the other side of the spectrum. Current batteries suck. They offer low capacity, are expensive, non-recyclable, made with the use of rare metals, cannot handle enough charging cycles, vulnerable to temperature changes, can overheat and often require special water cooling, catch fire when damaged, are difficult to extinguish with water. If they manage to make better, cheaper and safer batteries I might get interested, but for now I prefer my internal combustion engine. Looking forward to nuclear batteries that are being developed.

[BADecker]

Use nuclear wastes to make the electricity from to power the car. Nuclear battery.

This is a great idea, hoping that big companies will not eliminate this kind of technology. I think that the era of solar-powered and electric cars/motorcycles is on-demand this year since the price of gasoline/diesel is too pricey.

The problem with electric anything is, since electricity is inductive, it messes with the biological electricity in your body.

But if you are going to do the electric car thing, do the Edwin Gray motor. You can get near or over 100% performance... gasoline usually reaches only about 25% at super-best.

In simple form, here is what it entails:

1. Wind armature and stator electromagnets of a standard non-induction motor with ultra-thin, high-voltage windings... windings that can stand 50,000 or higher volts without shorting. And fill both of them full of wire, way more turns than the number of fat-wire turns.

2. Use a spark coil to generate high voltage; you might need a special kind that puts out more amperage than an old, automobile spark coil.

3 Spark each armature/stator combo as they pass each other. Spark them to create the same pole value (north or south) in both... with the idea of causing the two to repel each other. The repelling kick is what produces the power, PLUS if built a bit more complexly, the attraction of the last stator will attract because they will be opposite poles (north and south).

4. But it is the high voltage spark that does the work. If you can insulate for, and use 200,000 volts, you will get more power than 50,000 volts.

5. All the rest of the machinery and operation is for controlling the timing.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Edwin+Gray+motor.&ia=web

[Sexylizzy2813]

Use nuclear wastes to make the electricity from to power the car. Nuclear battery.

This is a great idea, hoping that big companies will not eliminate this kind of technology. I think that the era of solar-powered and electric cars/motorcycles is on-demand this year since the price of gasoline/diesel is too pricey.

Things change drastically without we doing anything, price of gasoline hike up and you think there won't be shortage of power? Is like when ever the government see us living happily they just know the right button to press to disengage our happiness. Having electric cars is a good idea but lack of power supply will be what we'll complain for...

[paxmao]

If it is not electric it has to be something that has similar characteristics. We have already overextended the rational use of fuel powered land vehicles beyond the point in which the health of many is at a serious risk, believe or not people die because they do not have the clean air their need, and that is not just in less developed countries, but even in civilised Europe and US.

[montaga]

Use nuclear wastes to make the electricity from to power the car. Nuclear battery.

This is a great idea, hoping that big companies will not eliminate this kind of technology. I think that the era of solar-powered and electric cars/motorcycles is on-demand this year since the price of gasoline/diesel is too pricey.

The problem with electric anything is, since electricity is inductive, it messes with the biological electricity in your body.
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Yes but no, you fail to differentiate between AC and DC.
DC has a waveform of 1, is natural and fine for body and earth.
AC technically should be outlawed for a number of reasons, its deadly unnatural and bad for environment.
A lot of places classify up to 120 vDC as Extra-low voltage (save to touch). No need to mention what 120 vAC does do you.
Livestock is herded safely at 30000 volt or more. No-one sane would have a 120 volt AC fence.


The Toxic Cost of Going Green
https://youtu.be/ipOeH7GW0M8

[BADecker]

The problem with electric anything is, since electricity is inductive, it messes with the biological electricity in your body.
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Yes but no, you fail to differentiate between AC and DC.
DC has a waveform of 1, is natural and fine for body and earth.
AC technically should be outlawed for a number of reasons, its deadly unnatural and bad for environment.
A lot of places classify up to 120 vDC as Extra-low voltage (save to touch). No need to mention what 120 vAC does do you.
Livestock is herded safely at 30000 volt or more. No-one sane would have a 120 volt AC fence.


The Toxic Cost of Going Green
https://youtu.be/ipOeH7GW0M8

A DC motor uses fluctuations that are not really AC, but are similar in fluctuation to AC.

[darkangel11]

A DC motor uses fluctuations that are not really AC, but are similar in fluctuation to AC.

Yup, people have been experimenting with pulse electric motors for decades. You basically make two coils one on the rotor and one on the stator that pulse in sync with each other, making the engine harmless. The only place where you have higher voltage is the current regulator between the battery and the motor, so unless someone puts their fingers there the whole thing is safe.

DC has a waveform of 1, is natural and fine for body and earth.

I had some fun making a high voltage dc generator as a teenager. As far as I remember It was above 10kV which was fun, could burn your skin, create plasma, weld stuff together, produce various gasses, melt wires, even produce x rays if connected to a vacuum tube. Good times, sometimes I wonder how I made it out of my teenage years with everything intact.

[BADecker]

A DC motor uses fluctuations that are not really AC, but are similar in fluctuation to AC.

Yup, people have been experimenting with pulse electric motors for decades. You basically make two coils one on the rotor and one on the stator that pulse in sync with each other, making the engine harmless. The only place where you have higher voltage is the current regulator between the battery and the motor, so unless someone puts their fingers there the whole thing is safe.

If there is NO reaction on an induction detector tester, maybe it is safe. There would have to be a complete cancellation of all induced currents, not only the ones that generally affect radio, TV, airplanes, etc.

[darkangel11]

If there is NO reaction on an induction detector tester, maybe it is safe. There would have to be a complete cancellation of all induced currents, not only the ones that generally affect radio, TV, airplanes, etc.

I thought we were talking about the danger of electrocution. If you're worried about migraines and cancer it's another thing, but with wifi and LTE signals all around us and high voltage power lines, there's not much we can do about it, unless you go to Alaska or something, but I've read that they have their own problems there. Last week a bear killed a woman and her child in the middle of a town, so I prefer to get some cancer rays than be eaten.

[BADecker]

If there is NO reaction on an induction detector tester, maybe it is safe. There would have to be a complete cancellation of all induced currents, not only the ones that generally affect radio, TV, airplanes, etc.

I thought we were talking about the danger of electrocution. If you're worried about migraines and cancer it's another thing, but with wifi and LTE signals all around us and high voltage power lines, there's not much we can do about it, unless you go to Alaska or something, but I've read that they have their own problems there. Last week a bear killed a woman and her child in the middle of a town, so I prefer to get some cancer rays than be eaten.

Sorry I wasn't clear. But to really clarify, Alaska is a wonderful place. Far fewer car accidents there. I guess it's the induced electrical waves that make us think that we are safer in the induced-electrical-wave areas.

Besides all that, thanks for your input.

[montaga]

The problem with electric anything is, since electricity is inductive, it messes with the biological electricity in your body.
........

Yes but no, you fail to differentiate between AC and DC.
DC has a waveform of 1, is natural and fine for body and earth.
AC technically should be outlawed for a number of reasons, its deadly unnatural and bad for environment.
A lot of places classify up to 120 vDC as Extra-low voltage (save to touch). No need to mention what 120 vAC does do you.
Livestock is herded safely at 30000 volt or more. No-one sane would have a 120 volt AC fence.


The Toxic Cost of Going Green
https://youtu.be/ipOeH7GW0M8

A DC motor uses fluctuations that are not really AC, but are similar in fluctuation to AC.

AC is to body and nature like cruising down the highway and then engage reverse gear.  Fluctuation is natural, going against the flow is not.

[BADecker]

A DC motor uses fluctuations that are not really AC, but are similar in fluctuation to AC.

AC is to body and nature like cruising down the highway and then engage reverse gear.  Fluctuation is natural, going against the flow is not.

Fluctuation is like AC. First it fluctuates one way, then the opposite. Fluctuation is naturally going against the flow. If the induction produced were exactly the same as the natural, biological, complex fluctuations, it might be beneficial. But to get that, one would have to induce loads of them at just the right places at just the right times. Too complex to even think about starting to do.

Both AC and DC are not good for health. But AC is worse, because it is constantly unhealthy.

[BADecker]

Few people understand that gasoline engines are really steam engines. The various grades of gasoline all contain hydrogen atoms and carbon atoms. If the gasoline were burned completely, the result would be steam and CO2.

Right now the South West part of the country needs more water. So, the steam is good. And with all the threats of running out of food, CO2 is good... because it is one of the main food of plants.

The problem is that the gasoline makers, under orders from government, don't make gasoline that can burn completely. Also, the gasoline has additives that create all kinds of pollutants. So, we get a bunch of bad stuff from burning hydrocarbons in car engines.

If engines were made to run clean, they would be much better than any electric vehicles that are on the market. The only thing that might be better, is some form of the Edwin Gray motor.

[montaga]

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Both AC and DC are not good for health. But AC is worse, because it is constantly unhealthy.

Exactly 50 or 60 times worse as a whole. 1hz vs 50/60 hz. But on a single body its way way worse because it is much more concentrated.
1hz = 299792 km wavelength
50hz = 5995 km wavelength
60hz = 4996 km wavelength
Mobile phones operate at mm length wavelengths.

More or less everything runs on DC or can be made to run on DC (tv, computer, phone, induction cooking/heating, anything with a motor can be made to run on DC ....    AC only useful to get power from A to B
The only 120 vDC batteries i know of are in forklifts or home-built arrays.

Greta Thunberg, everyone's favorite 20 year old (3 Jan 2003)
https://youtu.be/9Uh26skeFYA

[maxtra]

The idea of owning an electric car is very appealing as electric cars offer a cleaner and more sustainable alternative to traditional gasoline-powered vehicles, which aligns with personal values and concerns for the environment. Additionally, the cost of electricity is generally lower than the cost of gasoline, which could lead to significant savings on fuel costs.

However, there are also some challenges that come with owning an electric car like the initial cost of buying an electric car can be quite high, and not everyone can afford to purchase one outright. The availability of charging stations is still limited in many areas, which can make it difficult to travel long distances.

Overall, the benefits of owning an electric car outweigh the challenges. I believe that with the advancements in technology, the cost of electric cars will become more affordable, and the availability of charging stations will improve. Additionally, government incentives and regulations to phase out gasoline-powered vehicles will make it more accessible for people to own electric car.

[mindrust]

It is kind of hilarious that people actually think electric cars are running on clean energy while ICE cars are running on dirty energy.

The electricity you get from the grid is stored on lithium batteries but where does the grid get the electricity? Germany is right now burning coal (which provides 30% of Germany's electricity) to provide the electricity for their grid, so their citizens can charge up their EV's. How crazy is that? and that's happening because they can't get the Russian gas.

It is even more crazy that Germany actually shut down 3 nuclear reactors in 2021 which were actually a way to get "clean" energy.