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February 01, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
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The main point here i want to talk about is Merit System was made to lead this forum into the future right ? But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem, it gonna becomes more and more rarely for people who really need it ? I know theymos added 49 sMerit resource but seems like it's still tough enough for members to get some sMerits from them.
The new merit system was added to looking for an anti-spam and shitposting , yes i do agree it works but it makes things becoming miserable for those people who has an average quality posts ( they hardly to get a sMerits from their posts) .
I badly want to listen for your ideals much to help this merit system going to the perfect way.

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February 01, 2018, 04:21:42 PM
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The main point here i want to talk about is Merit System was made to lead this forum into the future right ? But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem, it gonna becomes more and more rarely for people who really need it ? I know theymos added 49 sMerit resource but seems like it's still tough enough for members to get some sMerits from them.

Improvements are being done to this newly introduced system. For instance, the merit sources have been increased to 57 (at the time of writing this post). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

The new merit system was added to looking for an anti-spam and shitposting , yes i do agree it works but it makes things becoming miserable for those people who has an average quality posts ( they hardly to get a sMerits from their posts) .
I badly want to listen for your ideals much to help this merit system going to the perfect way.

Average quality posts will not get you any merits with so much merits. At most, you can expect to reach member level with such posts. You can always improve if you have the correct attitude.
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February 01, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
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i'm tired of posts about Merit. Stop it enough  Embarrassed
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February 01, 2018, 04:34:15 PM
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sMerits still be very rarely in my feeling.... I was looking through a few topics and rarely saw one or two posts were merited...
The main point here i want to talk about is Merit System was made to lead this forum into the future right ? But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem, it gonna becomes more and more rarely for people who really need it ? I know theymos added 49 sMerit resource but seems like it's still tough enough for members to get some sMerits from them.

Improvements are being done to this newly introduced system. For instance, the merit sources have been increased to 57 (at the time of writing this post). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

The new merit system was added to looking for an anti-spam and shitposting , yes i do agree it works but it makes things becoming miserable for those people who has an average quality posts ( they hardly to get a sMerits from their posts) .
I badly want to listen for your ideals much to help this merit system going to the perfect way.

Average quality posts will not get you any merits with so much merits. At most, you can expect to reach member level with such posts. You can always improve if you have the correct attitude.

I think the average posts should be given 1-2 sMerit and the high-quality posts should be given around 5-10 sMerit. It will be a big encouraging for people to post better quality posts then spamming their shits all over the forum.

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February 01, 2018, 04:37:32 PM
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i'm tired of posts about Merit. Stop it enough  Embarrassed
I'm asking about the negative way and the positive way of the Merit system, i know you're tired when keep seeing topics were made about the M-system, me too but it's a new one so tiredly, we still have to discuss about it Smiley.

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February 01, 2018, 06:03:17 PM
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But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem,

You shouldn't look on the dates but on the content. If the post is really constructive enough to be given a merit then I see no problem.

it gonna becomes more and more rarely for people who really need it ? I know theymos added 49 sMerit resource but seems like it's still tough enough for members to get some sMerits from them.

Merits are supposed to be scarce  Wink

The new merit system was added to looking for an anti-spam and shitposting , yes i do agree it works but it makes things becoming miserable for those people who has an average quality posts ( they hardly to get a sMerits from their posts) .
I badly want to listen for your ideals much to help this merit system going to the perfect way.

I've seen your posts, They're not average but just a spam that doesn't add anything and yes most of them are in spam megathreads.

Friendly tip: Start reading because if you do, you have more knowledge to share. After that you can look for threads that are offering a post review to see if some of them are worthy enough to be merited https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2832127.0

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February 01, 2018, 07:05:34 PM
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i'm tired of posts about Merit. Stop it enough  Embarrassed

I am sure if there was something like negative merits, we would have seen a lot of members giving it for these posts.

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February 04, 2018, 08:51:14 AM
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But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem,

You shouldn't look on the dates but on the content. If the post is really constructive enough to be given a merit then I see no problem.

I think it is worth considering that the merit system has dual purposes. Firstly to fight against spam by making it difficult for account farmers to rank up but also the second equally important use is to make it easier to find content worth reading. Some of those old posts are part of Bitcoin history and I've seen many people question why they were given merit and then learn something from the answers given.

Don't think of sMerit being wasted, it's not a finite supply, theymos can just make more if he feels supply is a problem.

BTW I only found this thread because it just came up in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent

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February 04, 2018, 10:19:08 AM
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I think it is worth considering that the merit system has dual purposes. Firstly to fight against spam by making it difficult for account farmers to rank up but also the second equally important use is to make it easier to find content worth reading. Some of those old posts are part of Bitcoin history and I've seen many people question why they were given merit and then learn something from the answers given.

Don't think of sMerit being wasted, it's not a finite supply, theymos can just make more if he feels supply is a problem.

BTW I only found this thread because it just came up in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent

No doubt, admin will make desired coinages. Still we cannot make any system perfect. For instance, adding to many merit sources may result in someone undeserving getting that privilege.
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February 04, 2018, 11:27:44 AM
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i'm tired of posts about Merit. Stop it enough  Embarrassed

As long as new members are joining here hoping to get in signature campaigns and failing, you will keep seeing these posts.
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February 04, 2018, 03:08:55 PM
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The main point here i want to talk about is Merit System was made to lead this forum into the future right ? But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem, it gonna becomes more and more rarely for people who really need it ? I know theymos added 49 sMerit resource but seems like it's still tough enough for members to get some sMerits from them.
The new merit system was added to looking for an anti-spam and shitposting , yes i do agree it works but it makes things becoming miserable for those people who has an average quality posts ( they hardly to get a sMerits from their posts) .
I badly want to listen for your ideals much to help this merit system going to the perfect way.

I also not like the idea of these merit points being used for old posts. Another wrong trend is that if someone gives 5-10 merit points to a reply, we start seeing merits raining on such posts from other members.

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March 12, 2018, 07:00:43 PM
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The main point here i want to talk about is Merit System was made to lead this forum into the future right ? But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem, it gonna becomes more and more rarely for people who really need it ? I know theymos added 49 sMerit resource but seems like it's still tough enough for members to get some sMerits from them.
The new merit system was added to looking for an anti-spam and shitposting , yes i do agree it works but it makes things becoming miserable for those people who has an average quality posts ( they hardly to get a sMerits from their posts) .
I badly want to listen for your ideals much to help this merit system going to the perfect way.
I like what you are trying to do here, even though i'm new to cryptocurrency i'm still trying to impress people on what i can do to help them or even ideas to share and because of that i had a hard time to earn merit. Any information that one of you will be helpful to me and to others like me. I wasn't trying to earn merit by begging to receive because most of people that had smerits won't share and also i'm not trying to stop you to give merits all i want is those who had smerits should give to those who had constructive post, giving smerits doesn't need to be given easily as it will be called abusing smerits. I also want to share my opinion that those new to bitcoin like me would get information with other people that provide a constructive post and information on how to make a constructive post that will impress people and deserved a merit.
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March 12, 2018, 08:05:35 PM
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I like what you are trying to do here, even though i'm new to cryptocurrency i'm still trying to impress people on what i can do to help them or even ideas to share and because of that i had a hard time to earn merit. Any information that one of you will be helpful to me and to others like me. I wasn't trying to earn merit by begging to receive because most of people that had smerits won't share and also i'm not trying to stop you to give merits all i want is those who had smerits should give to those who had constructive post, giving smerits doesn't need to be given easily as it will be called abusing smerits. I also want to share my opinion that those new to bitcoin like me would get information with other people that provide a constructive post and information on how to make a constructive post that will impress people and deserved a merit.

You see, the thing about constructive posts is that, there is no blanket way to go about it and for this of higher ranks with quality contribution in terms of posts are used to the high bar which means, its difficult for someone new to really meet that standard. For example what you wrote here, to you, its quality and making sense but to me, its repetition while to others it might not even worth reading talk less of giving a merit.

However, that does not mean you should not still put more effort or you give up in contributing, it might be tough at this time but with time, it will get better all you need to do is to read to understand then put serious thought in what you want to pen down. Its not compulsory you have to write at once, sometimes you stop, think and come back to compete the post.
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March 12, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
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The main point here i want to talk about is Merit System was made to lead this forum into the future right ? But what is the point when they were wasted into those old posts . sMerit are limited and with this problem, it gonna becomes more and more rarely for people who really need it ? I know theymos added 49 sMerit resource but seems like it's still tough enough for members to get some sMerits from them.
The new merit system was added to looking for an anti-spam and shitposting , yes i do agree it works but it makes things becoming miserable for those people who has an average quality posts ( they hardly to get a sMerits from their posts) .
I badly want to listen for your ideals much to help this merit system going to the perfect way.

I also not like the idea of these merit points being used for old posts. Another wrong trend is that if someone gives 5-10 merit points to a reply, we start seeing merits raining on such posts from other members.

It is a kind of appreciation to the content, why not? It is just the same thing if you gives appreciation to your country hero which already died in the past, or you dont agree to that kind of things too? And for your question, it is not a wrong trend, maybe your brain and knowledge just can not process how great the content of the post is. It is just the rules that great post attract merits.


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