[WTB] BFL/Avalon Units with Delayed (1-3 months) Shipping

[User705]

Do you have BFL Singles, MiniRigs, Avalons or Avalon clones?  Is the difficulty increase scaring you?  I will buy your units shipped to me in 30, 60, 90 days or longer.  Mine for that time and know for sure that you have BTC escrowed to sell the unit to me after.  Current in-hand hardware prices are about .2BTC per GH so future prices will be lower then that obviously.  PM me with your offers based on that.  Will gladly buy multiple machines.  This will be escrowed with John K only.  As this is basically a put option on your hardware you will have to put up a small amount to escrow as well.  All other terms negotiable.

[dogie]

Interesting, but horrifically risky for you. Money to burn?

[ixoxo]

Are you interested in KnC models?

[User705]

Are you interested in KnC models?

Not really.

[User705]

Interesting, but horrifically risky for you. Money to burn?

Possibly.  Does that mean you want to sell me some units? 

[User705]

I've been asked to clarify prices.  I'm looking to buy around .1BTC/Gh  PM me the time frame for that price if interested.

[User705]

Wonder why so little interest in this.  You can lock up a guaranteed sales price for devices that are quickly becoming not worth the electricity costs they consume.

[squall1066]

Wonder why so little interest in this.  You can lock up a guaranteed sales price for devices that are quickly becoming not worth the electricity costs they consume.

People dont like to forecast anything to do with BTC, It's not easy to agree something now which may not pan out in 1-3 months, It's not easy guessing the next difficulty.

It's an admirable offer and a new way of thinking about buying, But for me, Agreeing to sell my 60Gh asic for 6 coins (@0.1BTC per Gh) in 3 months is just not worth the gamble, It could still make 0.2 a day making me the 6 I would make selling it, but then loose out of future revenue.

And this is without the BTC price moving, I cant sell my $1299 unit for $730 knowing that 50gh is selling for $2499.

For me the electricity costs are more than earned by the mining, I can only point out my point of view, I know I dont speak for everyone, But I would struggle to agree on a 20 coin sale in three months deal.

I hope you do get a deal, I would like to see what arrangements are made.

[SgtSpike]

Wonder why so little interest in this.  You can lock up a guaranteed sales price for devices that are quickly becoming not worth the electricity costs they consume.

I'd be very interested if the prices were higher.  6 BTC is not enough.

As it is, I expect difficulty increases to start leveling out, apparently a lot sooner than you do.  

[User705]

Valid points.  I'd like to point out the original price of the bfl single was 1300 which is likely a price they will return to shortly.  This was mainly geared towards avalons and their clones as their electricity consumption is horrid.  Also with in hand units fetching ~20s btc I'd think there would be interest to lock in 1/3 or perhaps a bit more of value as protection in case of mass knc and bitfury deliveries.  I don't think diff will level out anytime soon.  We haven't seen any volume of 28nm devices yet.  Also you can lock up a price and if you don't want to ship in 30-60 days then it won't cost much to simply not ship.  It's just like a stock option.

[SgtSpike]

Valid points.  I'd like to point out the original price of the bfl single was 1300 which is likely a price they will return to shortly.  This was mainly geared towards avalons and their clones as their electricity consumption is horrid.  Also with in hand units fetching ~20s btc I'd think there would be interest to lock in 1/3 or perhaps a bit more of value as protection in case of mass knc and bitfury deliveries.  I don't think diff will level out anytime soon.  We haven't seen any volume of 28nm devices yet.  Also you can lock up a price and if you don't want to ship in 30-60 days then it won't cost much to simply not ship.  It's just like a stock option.

In-hand units are going for 20 BTC is all?  See, I think that price is low as well.  Guess I am a bit of an optimist as to how much they'll earn in the coming months. 

[||bit]

Are you buying BFL hardware at 0.4BTC/GH? Ifso, are you paying now or in the future? And how much BFL hardware can you take on?

[User705]

Are you buying BFL hardware at 0.4BTC/GH? Ifso, are you paying now or in the future? And how much BFL hardware can you take on?

I will pay now into escrow for shipping in 30-90 days.  You will get the BTC after I receive units.

[User705]

Looks like Avalon shipped a lot of gen 1 chips.  If anyone has a clone on order I'd be interested in those as well.

[User705]

Prices getting low
Lock it up

[User705]

Wonder why so little interest in this.  You can lock up a guaranteed sales price for devices that are quickly becoming not worth the electricity costs they consume.

People dont like to forecast anything to do with BTC, It's not easy to agree something now which may not pan out in 1-3 months, It's not easy guessing the next difficulty.

It's an admirable offer and a new way of thinking about buying, But for me, Agreeing to sell my 60Gh asic for 6 coins (@0.1BTC per Gh) in 3 months is just not worth the gamble, It could still make 0.2 a day making me the 6 I would make selling it, but then loose out of future revenue.

And this is without the BTC price moving, I cant sell my $1299 unit for $730 knowing that 50gh is selling for $2499.

For me the electricity costs are more than earned by the mining, I can only point out my point of view, I know I dont speak for everyone, But I would struggle to agree on a 20 coin sale in three months deal.

I hope you do get a deal, I would like to see what arrangements are made.

No deals yet.  But seeing in hand prices quickly approaching 12BTC for 60Gh units I'm not sure if I should be glad I haven't done any deals.  Interesting to see past posts though.

[BenTuras]

I am auctioning 4 black batch 2 Avalons in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298470

What's your latest offer on future sale ?
What do you mean that I also have to put some BTC in escrow ?

[elasticband]

I've been asked to clarify prices.  I'm looking to buy around .1BTC/Gh  PM me the time frame for that price if interested.

so you are telling me in 3monhts you will buy avalons at 0.1BTC per GH?

[User705]

I've been asked to clarify prices.  I'm looking to buy around .1BTC/Gh  PM me the time frame for that price if interested.

so you are telling me in 3monhts you will buy avalons at 0.1BTC per GH?

In three months no.