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April 10, 2018, 02:42:06 PM
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You are right developer should approve some quality test before entering the forum so that the fake crypto bots can be prevented

Why dont you create some bot for countering these bots and then we can all be happy? The forum has some bounty managers who check posts/tweets using bots. I dont know if its ethical or if it reduced labour at all but its there. Then we have bot-posting shitposters - they quickly get nuked though.

A lot of things have been thought out by many people in the forum for its development. Have you seen the beta.bitcointalk - I believe that is the correct link, where a lot of changes have been done since epochtalk migration will happen - but nobody knows the ETA.

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April 11, 2018, 08:35:39 PM
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Yes it makes difference by hardening the task for the newbies to get promoted to higher user level
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April 13, 2018, 06:37:42 PM
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But you missed the point atlast those fake guys are getting banned only and that's good
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April 13, 2018, 08:21:57 PM
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I can will agree only that Merit - the system removing superfluous.
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April 14, 2018, 12:36:51 AM
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Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?
 
I think this is absolutely true! the more people who pursue merit, the more shitposter that makes the posts not qualified. This will only make the forum dirty. Although the merit system encourages users to become more enthusiastic to perform quality posts. Because of the excessive spirit that arose post that I think less qualified.
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April 14, 2018, 03:55:12 AM
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Merit system is introduced to nullified low quality posts in the forum. but something is going exactly opposite to this.
I am seeing more rubbish posts, as everyone is trying to make more and more posts which shows the insecurity among them.
As they all wants to show on the top of the discussion where they have a little opportunity of getting merit points.
Do merit system really make a difference in this forum?
 


I  am also coming up with same observations. Ppl in the forum are creating unnecessary posts. Being over helpful to get merits.
This merit system is destroying the actual meaning and existence of the forum.
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April 14, 2018, 04:31:46 AM
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Definitely Yes jerry! The hoard behind getting the merit points is very brutal. everyone wants merit points for the higher post on the forum & trying to all  the tactics to get the merit points because something is not going right.
I have seen some posts which are getting merit points for the rubbish. May be some posts have some meaning that describe only by the person. But taunting a person for a post may also give you 8 merit points. I am amazed.
And one post got 18 merit points from 5 person for writing nothing.
The reason why they get merit even though their post is rubbish is because they abuse merit system. Some members in this forum won't give merit even they have lots of smerits they won't just merit someone that has reasonable and understandable high quality post that deserves a merit instead they sell their smerits or exchange smerit to smerit.

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April 14, 2018, 04:36:47 AM
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There will come a point, probably when Jr. Member accounts start having 600 activity but still with 15 merits, that these shitposters will throw in the towel.  They will realize then that they've put in so much "effort" (they're deluding themselves) and haven't gotten anywhere.  And then they'll finally say forget it and give up their dreams of having a stay-at-home writing job that takes zero effort.

They'll ultimately realize where zero effort gets you on bitcointalk.  It'll take some time, because the spammers are stubborn and ignorant, but it's a realization that will have to happen.

I can will agree only that Merit - the system removing superfluous.
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April 14, 2018, 04:31:58 PM
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others are doing mistakes and sufferings are caused by the newbies like us Sad
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April 14, 2018, 08:11:02 PM
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As i know a lot of member at bitcointalk only do their task for join bounty, such as: Facebook, Twitter, Make Videos, Articles and they using multi account to join it. I have manage one campaign which have over 70% is Newbie and JR.Member; they post report day by day and increasing their activity obviously. Do you think they deserve to receive merits with only report post? I think Merits System is fairly for everyone, but it should be have limited on some subjects such as: Reputation, Speculator, Bounty Thread (Alts or BTC) instead of at all subjects like now.

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April 14, 2018, 09:00:20 PM
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I do not see how you've built a reasoning for that claim.

Honestly, if you see to happenings in a relatively close time period, that doesn't mean that they a related at all. There always was a ton of low-quality posts a with poor grammar. missing punctuation or an absent text structure. You have no case, unless you can provide some verifiable statistics, where it is clearly shown, that the average quality of text among all posts have risen or the share of post with no point is skyrocketing. or whatever else property you want would pick as a rubbish post characteristics.

There is very low if no correlation between the number of rubbish posts and an earned merit. Why would anyone give a merit for a rubbish post? People won;t give it away easily, if it was earned hard way. That's a simple logic, it actually works for the majority.
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April 15, 2018, 03:40:51 PM
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As i know a lot of member at bitcointalk only do their task for join bounty, such as: Facebook, Twitter, Make Videos, Articles and they using multi account to join it. I have manage one campaign which have over 70% is Newbie and JR.Member; they post report day by day and increasing their activity obviously. Do you think they deserve to receive merits with only report post? I think Merits System is fairly for everyone, but it should be have limited on some subjects such as: Reputation, Speculator, Bounty Thread (Alts or BTC) instead of at all subjects like now.

See people who come to this forum to do only bounties and airdrops are always looked down upon as the bottomfeeder shitposter squad. Now if they eually contribute to discussions and they also do some bounties, it shows that they are not some beggar sort of shitposter and in the long run will able to earn some merits if they make quality posts.

Its not a question of being fair or not. In my opinion it is unfair and this is a good thing for the forum. People here hardly interact in their posts even if someone replies them in the Bitcoin Discussion and Economics, Altcoin Discussion sections. Let alone the ANN sections which is full of shitposters. The merit sources will have a sort of "favoritism" and this is good for the forum.

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April 16, 2018, 01:36:26 AM
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Shitposters should be eliminated totally out of the forum.
See people who come to this forum to do only bounties and airdrops are always looked down upon as the bottomfeeder shitposter squad.

It's one of the good, amazing effects of merit system on forum users, particularly shitposters. Some of them have changed, and will keep changing to adapt to the merit system in positively directions.
Now if they eually contribute to discussions and they also do some bounties, it shows that they are not some beggar sort of shitposter and in the long run will able to earn some merits if they make quality posts.

Life is unfair for everyone. Each person has his/her own starting point, background (merit points in the case of bitcointalk forum members); but over long period of time, they can reach to the same targets if they tried to do it. Just set up your targets, work hard, you will reach to your targets someday.
Its not a question of being fair or not. In my opinion it is unfair and this is a good thing for the forum.
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