BTC and Stock Markets are in crash mode

[KK120]

If you happen to watch also the stock markets, in the last couple of days and especially today there was a huge crash also in US (and around the world of course). It seems that people are selling assets (crypto and stocks). Is there a correlation or not?

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[jjacob]

If you happen to watch also the stock markets, in the last couple of days and especially today there was a huge crash also in US (and around the world of course). It seems that people are selling assets (crypto and stocks). Is there a correlation or not?

Gold is rising while equity markets around the world and cryptocurrencies are crashing. This kind of punches a hole in the theory that Bitcoin will be considered as some kind of digital gold. There definitely is a correlation and investors are selling risky assets because the yield on treasury bonds is increasing, making them more attractive.

[BelieveInBitcoin]

Gold is rising while equity markets around the world and cryptocurrencies are crashing. This kind of punches a hole in the theory that Bitcoin will be considered as some kind of digital gold. There definitely is a correlation and investors are selling risky assets because the yield on treasury bonds is increasing, making them more attractive.

It is disappointing - I had thought that a drop in the stock market would see money move into Bitcoin, but that's not happening at all - everyone is going back to that old time asset: gold.

[winterland]

Gold is rising while equity markets around the world and cryptocurrencies are crashing. This kind of punches a hole in the theory that Bitcoin will be considered as some kind of digital gold. There definitely is a correlation and investors are selling risky assets because the yield on treasury bonds is increasing, making them more attractive.

It is disappointing - I had thought that a drop in the stock market would see money move into Bitcoin, but that's not happening at all - everyone is going back to that old time asset: gold.

Bitcoin is still seen as a risky asset to hold and we cannot blame people for thinking that since that is the truth, but give it time, if bitcoin really becomes adopted worldwide by a huge amount of people there is a chance people will begin to look at bitcoin in a similar way people look at gold, this is just an indication that its too soon for the persons to think of bitcoin in this way.

[jtipt]

Gold is rising while equity markets around the world and cryptocurrencies are crashing. This kind of punches a hole in the theory that Bitcoin will be considered as some kind of digital gold. There definitely is a correlation and investors are selling risky assets because the yield on treasury bonds is increasing, making them more attractive.

It is disappointing - I had thought that a drop in the stock market would see money move into Bitcoin, but that's not happening at all - everyone is going back to that old time asset: gold.

Give it some time, January and February are always like this. Although I had also thought that bitcoin would gain more attention because of stock market crash, but as it seems people are going for the safe choice of gold.

[barontamago]

Gold is rising while equity markets around the world and cryptocurrencies are crashing. This kind of punches a hole in the theory that Bitcoin will be considered as some kind of digital gold. There definitely is a correlation and investors are selling risky assets because the yield on treasury bonds is increasing, making them more attractive.

It is disappointing - I had thought that a drop in the stock market would see money move into Bitcoin, but that's not happening at all - everyone is going back to that old time asset: gold.

Actually not all the people believing that cryptocurrencies make them profit they think its to risky that why their focusing on gold investment.It takes time to adopt about the crypto wait and observe them if they actually believe in it. for the mean time be patient and wait for a few weeks the prices of stock and bitcoin will get back to normal.

[frowsiter]

Gold is rising while equity markets around the world and cryptocurrencies are crashing. This kind of punches a hole in the theory that Bitcoin will be considered as some kind of digital gold. There definitely is a correlation and investors are selling risky assets because the yield on treasury bonds is increasing, making them more attractive.

It is disappointing - I had thought that a drop in the stock market would see money move into Bitcoin, but that's not happening at all - everyone is going back to that old time asset: gold.

But we should make note of one thing, the old asset is not going to be blessed for long time. The gold is just temporary hype and it has never gone beyond the specific ATH every time. Government regulates it and they will apply the limits always. So we dont have to get scared out of this asset. People will buy and sell and when they will see there is no more use of that trade and the crypto's or other stock exchanges which you think are getting affected too will start rising back again. So on the positive scale im seeing this as good opportunity for those who were not able to get into crypto at lowest points. Now they can earn huge out of it by investing at this low and focus on the long term gaols. 

[Wallflower28]

The early months of the year make bitcoin price slow down. I think that the demand of the people really affects in the price of cryptocurrency. As I also get some info's, bitcoin is turning down when the first month of the year. We just have to go in the flow, whatever the price indicated to have profits.

[coin_1122]

Gold is rising while equity markets around the world and cryptocurrencies are crashing. This kind of punches a hole in the theory that Bitcoin will be considered as some kind of digital gold. There definitely is a correlation and investors are selling risky assets because the yield on treasury bonds is increasing, making them more attractive.

It is disappointing - I had thought that a drop in the stock market would see money move into Bitcoin, but that's not happening at all - everyone is going back to that old time asset: gold.

Of course, it is but the market is completely in crises and giving the opportunity to the who wants to buy at this dips. Now it is the right time for the people who want to buy the Bitcoin at this position, now every market is completely in the downtrend, even i never expected this will happen.

[Bakukang]

It is very much alarming!I cannot believe that this is really happening.All markets are down.Btc price also down.Altcoins are very much affected.I do not know what will be the action of different investors and other people that are hodling.Hoping to hear some good news.

[whirlcoin]

Yeah,which is the result of panic selling among the cryotocurrency investors and causes downtrend on bitcoin and other currencies by 20% everyday.Now the price of bitcoin is around $6000 and it may falls more for some weeks.But I don't know the real factors behind these crashes.

[bozicso]

The biggest problem is that frightened investors are hardly returning. It takes a long time to stop and recover. The EU's announcement of the April crypto regulation of the currency may have an enviable impact on the head of the story, of course in one way or another.

Real prices were overwhelming and now the level of the market is in progress, it is very likely that this story will lead to what one of the leading ETH people said that after such a collapse, a lot of small coins will cease to be stationed. Perhaps in the long run this is a good thing.

[KK120]

If you happen to watch also the stock markets, in the last couple of days and especially today there was a huge crash also in US (and around the world of course). It seems that people are selling assets (crypto and stocks). Is there a correlation or not?

Gold is rising while equity markets around the world and cryptocurrencies are crashing. This kind of punches a hole in the theory that Bitcoin will be considered as some kind of digital gold. There definitely is a correlation and investors are selling risky assets because the yield on treasury bonds is increasing, making them more attractive.

I agree that main theme is the rising of treasury bonds yield, but the situation may get worse since a lot of investment was also done in volatility based ETFs - especially the ones that were shorting volatility (like XIV which was crashed from 140$ to 15$ in just 2 days erasing half a billion $ from Credit Suisse P/L *** since they hold 1/3 of these shares). XIV pre-market trade is halted for the moment and there are rumors that CS will be forced to liquidate what's left...
On top pension funds - not only retail investors - have been invertsing in these ETFs creating a huge bubble which makes the so called BTC bubble look like a kidder garden.

*** Correction no impact on the P/L of Credit Suisse, just the holders of XIV will suffer the loss

[trickyriky]

If you happen to watch also the stock markets, in the last couple of days and especially today there was a huge crash also in US (and around the world of course). It seems that people are selling assets (crypto and stocks). Is there a correlation or not?

I have also met the news about stock markets crash. Americans are in panic, and crypto society is at a loss.Gold price is rising.

[jimcroce]

It's (partially) just the time of year. Cryptos dip every year at this time, and Jan/Feb are notorious for being the worst months for various industries, especially retail. If every day of every month resulted in predictable, rising stocks/coin prices, we'd all be retired

[arthur25]

The relationship of bitcoin, altcoins and the market are intact. Without bitcoin there is no altcoins. Without bitcoin and altcoins there is no market place today. The price crash will be normal again when both gain the miss part.

[KK120]

The relationship of bitcoin, altcoins and the market are intact. Without bitcoin there is no altcoins. Without bitcoin and altcoins there is no market place today. The price crash will be normal again when both gain the miss part.

Yes, but the correlation between crypto market and the actual stock market is quite astonishing at this point, both crashed almost at the same time.

[tanoe]

Well, from what I know, the fact is now the stock market is going through a crisis up, and cryptocurrency is recovering. CMIIW

[MoonHodler]

could be the lunar year vacations in east asia, alot of investing slows down this time of year.

[block5561]

there's a known saying among professional asset managers: 'daily fluctuations are meaningless'. This is true for equity, or 'fiat' financial markets at present, as its clear that all we witness lately is reasonable daily fluctuations driven by normal professional and institutional activity, while not varying too far from the value of underlying assets.

now, for crypto markets things are entirely different: its an emerging, fragile, small and inefficient market filled with irrational, unsophisticated players acting on incomplete information. its two different markets, dominated by two different types of players, so comparing the two is practically insensible.