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February 06, 2018, 11:56:42 AM
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Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.

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February 06, 2018, 12:20:13 PM
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Not that I should have any reason to other than being from there, but am glad to see a rare opinion piece from Southeast Asia (where Bitcoin has quietly been gaining a small but loud voice, one of the more significant minorities, I still think) from someone who's been around for a while.

I know it can be difficult to see this, especially when this is the first time most of us are experiencing first hand the pullback from the climb, but as pointed out - in relative terms, Bitcoin is actually finding its way towards stability. Swings were much larger in the early days. The media hype, followed by the doomsday prophecies, have all followed the price, always behind it, always trying to keep the momentum either way. This has all happened before. And this will all happen again.

And because of that, lest we forget, the most important point we have to keep advocating is Bitcoin's technology and what it really means, and what the masses still haven't fully grasped (quote from the piece): "The price of Bitcoin is the least interesting thing about it. The value of Bitcoin is in its ability to do what it set out to do, and do it best. When you truly understand the technology, you’ll realize it’s true value."


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February 08, 2018, 01:56:31 AM
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Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.
I read the whole article and it is great, we just need to look back and see how small the 2013 bubble of bitcoin looks like compared to now, in 10 years the current drop in the price of bitcoin will be nothing and the people that are able to hold despite all the FUD going on will be the ones laughing at the end, however it is going to be impossible to hold that long unless there is an understanding of bitcoin technology, those that are here only for the money are going to be incapable to hold for that long, while those that are interested not only in the price but in the technology as well will be rewarded by their faith in bitcoin.
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February 08, 2018, 07:39:55 AM
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actually the bitcoin is a unique token that you can not really figure out how it will increase value or decrease the value. you also know that bitcoin is the first to know coins in cryptocurrency. You can better understand the crypt if you are studying better.
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February 08, 2018, 08:03:33 AM
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Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.

I'd think that bitcoin is far from its ultimate peak value.

It's just that a lot of people are currently stuck in the small picture and not really caring about the long term. All they care about is short term profits, which is understandable. But this current price which is so low, is definitely not a good time to sell.

When bitcoin actually gets mass adopted all over the world, instead of it just being something of a speculative phenomenon that gets ambigious press coverage, then its intrinsic value will naturally appreciate.

To say that 2018 is the end of bitcoin is beyond dumb.

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February 08, 2018, 08:08:03 AM
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Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.

I'd think that bitcoin is far from its ultimate peak value.

It's just that a lot of people are currently stuck in the small picture and not really caring about the long term. All they care about is short term profits, which is understandable. But this current price which is so low, is definitely not a good time to sell.

When bitcoin actually gets mass adopted all over the world, instead of it just being something of a speculative phenomenon that gets ambigious press coverage, then its intrinsic value will naturally appreciate.

To say that 2018 is the end of bitcoin is beyond dumb.

We haven't even hit $1 per satoshi  Cool

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February 08, 2018, 01:45:39 PM
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sometimes this market seems too emotional to me which is why the swings like this happen. you can see the headlines in that article all of them pointing to the rise and how everything is fine and happy. then compare those with current articles saying how things are dark and dying, everyone seems to be banning bitcoin or dropping it.

and all the while the "wise money" is being invested in bitcoin in each dip.

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February 09, 2018, 07:49:40 AM
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Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.
I read the whole article and it is great, we just need to look back and see how small the 2013 bubble of bitcoin looks like compared to now, in 10 years the current drop in the price of bitcoin will be nothing and the people that are able to hold despite all the FUD going on will be the ones laughing at the end, however it is going to be impossible to hold that long unless there is an understanding of bitcoin technology, those that are here only for the money are going to be incapable to hold for that long, while those that are interested not only in the price but in the technology as well will be rewarded by their faith in bitcoin.
That is how it usually is with early adopters anyway. Some would see an opportunity in something, and they will grab it immediately.

Some will read the wrong meanings, get in, out of panic flee when the institutions are playing with their mind and they end up losing out, while some will just be there looking for all the negativeness until they totally miss out. They are the type their kids ask them later in future where they were when everyone was getting rich. I wonder what they will have to say by then.
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February 10, 2018, 12:07:56 PM
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Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.

I'd think that bitcoin is far from its ultimate peak value.

It's just that a lot of people are currently stuck in the small picture and not really caring about the long term. All they care about is short term profits, which is understandable. But this current price which is so low, is definitely not a good time to sell.

When bitcoin actually gets mass adopted all over the world, instead of it just being something of a speculative phenomenon that gets ambigious press coverage, then its intrinsic value will naturally appreciate.

To say that 2018 is the end of bitcoin is beyond dumb.

We haven't even hit $1 per satoshi  Cool
Ride on bro! Now I see someone talking Grin … However, that is going to be a huge one, and by then I am trying to picture what the market cap of bitcoin would be like if that ever happens at all anyway. I guess you must be one of the John McAfee's fans who are more than extremely bullish on bitcoin.

Just like your signature, 'bitcoin like a box of chocolate ?' that is one thing I always keep in mind, but at the end, I am still very optimistic anyway and also believe that I will never know what I am going to get, until I get it.
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February 10, 2018, 05:58:31 PM
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I might not agree that bitcoin is actually stable but I  will fully agree that you should take a chill and watch careful before fully making up our mind to sell. Basically, I am not selling but holding and I intend to do so for a very long time. With the recent problems and bad news we have been hearing recently, this can cause  too much worries and urgent selling off of ones bitcoin, but its only the determined heart that keeps hodling on.
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February 10, 2018, 10:01:08 PM
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With the recent problems and bad news we have been hearing recently, this can cause  too much worries and urgent selling off of ones bitcoin, but its only the determined heart that keeps hodling on.

What problems are you referring to? I haven't seen or experienced any. The same basically goes up for bad news as well. I haven't seen any actually bad news articles worthy of panicking over. You will only see problems and bad news articles if you don't actually understand Bitcoin and its market. If your only priority is to bank on Bitcoin's latest bull run having caused the price to almost reach $20k, and thus discard everything else that's far more important, then yes, you will fall for fud and see everything as a problem. It all comes down to the ignorant nature of the people here. If people actually took the time and effort to read into what Bitcoin actually is, and how its market works and gets affected, we would never experience such severe selloffs. If you don't know anything, you'll take everything for granted, even if it's fud.
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February 10, 2018, 11:16:58 PM
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he did many important analyzes, I believe that it is to calm people and show the potential of bitcoin, but the truth is that neither he nor anyone knows if the price will increase or if the price will fall, we had a great increase of the price but that does not mean that one day the price  back to $20,000... we need to be patient and optimistic. but let us not be optimistic in exaggeration.

Basically, I am not selling but holding and I intend to do so for a very long time.


for all people who bought when the price was  $1000, there are many reasons to hold and not panic when the price drops, but for people who bought when the price was $15000 has reasons to panic


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I guess you must be one of the John McAfee's fans who are more than extremely bullish on bitcoin.

I believe he must be sorry for the promise he made

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February 11, 2018, 03:55:30 AM
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Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize how much stable Bitcoin actually is.

Bitcoin will eventually rebound back and can continue on growing to a higher value maybe within this year but we should be prepared for some slow grind until it can find its own footing and do some bull run which many have been looking for. remember that when Bitcoin was surging so high a lot of people are worried that the bubble can burst anytime and now that Bitcoin has retreated in value many are worried that the bubble will soon burst...so what gives?

The right thing to do is continue on holding and we should decide to sell wait for the right time when the value has already risen maybe in the same level we have seen in December. One of the reason why we have a nervous market is because last year there had been many newcomers to the scene and they entered when Bitcoin was at its peak -- right now these people are disappointed to see more than half of their holding's value gone just like a vapor. Again, we should continue on holding because this is just part of Bitcoin's history repeated.
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February 11, 2018, 05:16:15 AM
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for all people who bought when the price was  $1000, there are many reasons to hold and not panic when the price drops, but for people who bought when the price was $15000 has reasons to panic

it depends on the "people" themselves and what they did not the price they bought at. if they invested more than they can afford to lose they will panic no matter where they bought bitcoin at!
it also depends on their plans. some are trading so obviously when price drops they have to panic and take some actions but some others are just investing in bitcoin and don't like being involved with exchanges that much. there is no reason for these people to panic. for example i bought bitcoin around $500 back in 2014 and price continued falling down to $150, it was uneasy but i never panicked!

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February 11, 2018, 05:39:58 AM
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for all people who bought when the price was  $1000, there are many reasons to hold and not panic when the price drops, but for people who bought when the price was $15000 has reasons to panic

it depends on the "people" themselves and what they did not the price they bought at. if they invested more than they can afford to lose they will panic no matter where they bought bitcoin at!
it also depends on their plans. some are trading so obviously when price drops they have to panic and take some actions but some others are just investing in bitcoin and don't like being involved with exchanges that much. there is no reason for these people to panic. for example i bought bitcoin around $500 back in 2014 and price continued falling down to $150, it was uneasy but i never panicked!
Trading is a job that requires a srategy, we may not panic when we have a good strategy plan. Because with the right strategy we can estimate the results we will get. Decrease in prices and price increases are just things that will happen for a moment, so we can not make a benchmark. What we do is make the best decision possible, so we can make a profit even though the price is down. Decrease does not mean we lose a fortune, it is all that is just a matter of time to be able to sell or buy.
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February 11, 2018, 07:17:34 AM
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Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.

yes I once read someone who said "you will lose when you sell it and you will profit when you buy" and if I think it is true because without you aware of the buying process is a very important process to gain profit and after buying will long time you strong hold it.
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Good article for those who don't really know bitcoin is..  If you dig in this forum there are lots of people are lucky because not only a man who got 10k bitcoin for pizza was lucky there are some free bitcoins before and if you are claiming free bitcoins in any faucet there are old faucet that gives you 1 btc per claim i just dig it when searching about faucet and i was honestly shock seeing that bitcoin before is totally free just do a simple task and you will get a good amount of bitcoin..  
And also i remember who got lots of bitcoin playing dragon tale and get lots of free bitcoin from statue without depositing..
And now they are lucky that they can sell it for high value. .
Now we can't blame who those selling bitcoin because there are lots of new comers don't know exactly what is bitcoin and they are just afraid to lose their precious investment that is why instead of holding it and waiting for the price of bitcoin getting much higher they sell and exit just to recover their loses.  
But i think its a part of experience because before when i was new  in bitcoin i was afraid of price crashing that is why i always convert my bitcoin into fiat and also experience to scam for many cloud minings and investment site i learned a lot until now i still staying using bitcoin that i only dream is to reach the price until $1,000 value after that i was amaze last feb 2017 that the price was hit $1000 and i was happy because my holdings is worth it and i paid all my debt and i get my business back but its not finish yet because i was surprise that the price of bitcoin can continue increase more last may of 2017 the price was reached almost $2,000 so i was regretting in that time so i learned and regret until now i save all my bitcoins and earn from crypto mining into bitcoin and wait for a good price for bitcoin..

We can't change other peoples wanted just let them discover in their own self if what bitcoin is and they should experience first in the first time to lose before they can learn because nobody's perfect.
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February 11, 2018, 08:45:45 AM
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for all people who bought when the price was  $1000, there are many reasons to hold and not panic when the price drops, but for people who bought when the price was $15000 has reasons to panic

it depends on the "people" themselves and what they did not the price they bought at. if they invested more than they can afford to lose they will panic no matter where they bought bitcoin at!
it also depends on their plans. some are trading so obviously when price drops they have to panic and take some actions but some others are just investing in bitcoin and don't like being involved with exchanges that much. there is no reason for these people to panic. for example i bought bitcoin around $500 back in 2014 and price continued falling down to $150, it was uneasy but i never panicked!

That's how you can distinguish people who have been invested for the sake of the technology and the people who wanted to make a quick buck. I'm almost certain that 75% of the people who FOMO'd in, in the hopes of getting rich overnight, have already sold their position somewhere on the way down.
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for all people who bought when the price was  $1000, there are many reasons to hold and not panic when the price drops, but for people who bought when the price was $15000 has reasons to panic

it depends on the "people" themselves and what they did not the price they bought at. if they invested more than they can afford to lose they will panic no matter where they bought bitcoin at!
it also depends on their plans. some are trading so obviously when price drops they have to panic and take some actions but some others are just investing in bitcoin and don't like being involved with exchanges that much. there is no reason for these people to panic. for example i bought bitcoin around $500 back in 2014 and price continued falling down to $150, it was uneasy but i never panicked!

That's how you can distinguish people who have been invested for the sake of the technology and the people who wanted to make a quick buck. I'm almost certain that 75% of the people who FOMO'd in, in the hopes of getting rich overnight, have already sold their position somewhere on the way down.

one of the good things about the dumps like this where price goes down by A LOT not just a small drop, is that it literary flushes out a lot of these FOMO newbies. it is a good thing to have from time to time although it sucks to see how big these drops get sometimes because of them.
and each time something like this happens, we always have a much stronger market afterwards. and I believe that strength is because the weak hands are flushed out and won't come back for some time.

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February 11, 2018, 09:08:09 AM
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I'm not bearish, but this recovery is taking too much time.

For me, its possible to have a small, temporary, bear market in cryptos. Cryptos have proven most TAs are simply a matter of faith. All those theories about cup and handle, head and shoulders, double and tripple bottoms, they dont work with bitcoin. So its the idea of a long bear market.

But a short bear market would not last a couple of weeks, either. So this slow recovery is a indicative of a bear market, even if people here dont want to admit it. Its painfully slow to recover, like the market was in a kind of hybernation. Since there is a still active bull trend, bitcoin keeps going up from time to time, although not sidelined enough, making we believe the bear trend is over. This points that this bear market will be short-lived, and once more bitcoin will break TA theories.

Fact is: a lot of people who bought dont believe in the technology, they just want quick profits, so they sold everything during the fall. But the people who believes in it, and wants it as a store of value, didnt sell, and there's a lot of people in this camp too. Theres a bear trend, but the previous bull trend is still strong. This is bringing such tension to the market.

The bears are not satisfied, most shorted it during the fall, not at the peak, so they want it at $1000, below mining costs. The bulls think its enough, they want it back to $10k in a matter of days. I'm kind of a bull because I sold 5% at the bottom (to decrease exposure), and still wants it to go higher, I dont care if my order will refill it or not.
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