the only thing thats not crashing is the damn video card prices...

[Digital Drug Lord]

whats going how long will this price gouging going on for? Are these prices now the norm? 

[Vann]

GPU prices are influenced by a variety of factors. Global market trends, supply chain logistics, product lineup announcements and a variety of other factors. In other words, 'a big picture' anaylysis. I would guess the daily price of shitcoins on whattomine plays exactly 0% in future production decisions. Not everone is obsessed with the daily price of Crypto and I would suggest you don't either.

[Metroid]

Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000,  gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.

[leowonderful]

GPU prices aren't instantly affected by coin prices but they're lagging indicators. Sooner or later we'll see card prices dropping back down if prices continue downwards or even stagnate. There's still people buying up cards just to resell.

[Digital Drug Lord]

GPU prices are influenced by a variety of factors. Global market trends, supply chain logistics, product lineup announcements and a variety of other factors. In other words, 'a big picture' anaylysis. I would guess the daily price of shitcoins on whattomine plays exactly 0% in future production decisions. Not everone is obsessed with the daily price of Crypto and I would suggest you don't either.

but its because of crypto that the prices are so high

[gotminer]

Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000,  gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.

In what fucking currency dude?  USD?  Hopefully not.  

RX580 - 529.99
1080ti - 899.99
1070 - 549.99
1060 - 329.89
Vega 56 - 999.99
Vega 64 - 1199.99

All of that is in stock right now (02-06-18 @ 20:55 EST) priced in USD.  It's too fucking high.  I agree ... I'm not buying gpu's at those prices.  But compared to your bullshit numbers, they are lower, if you are posting USD values.  You're inflating your fucking numbers, because you pull them from your ass.  Simple as that.  If you want to post GPU prices, do it with some fucking accuracy and state the fucking currency, you idiot.  Maybe that's why you don't state the currency ... So people just don't look further and believe your made up bullshit.

It pisses me off so badly ... Lol ... Because I do agree with you.  I don't think anyone should be buying gpu's at pumped up prices right now ...  but you post bullshit numbers.  I'm proving it to you right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7uxgei/gpu_stock_thread_quick_guide_for_gpu_hunting_in/?st=jdbxtvfk&sh=2b2bab0d

P.S. ... You are the only senior member on this site that has posted such stupidity that I've felt the need to call out and prove wrong!  And I will continue to do it.

[gotminer]

GPU prices are influenced by a variety of factors. Global market trends, supply chain logistics, product lineup announcements and a variety of other factors. In other words, 'a big picture' anaylysis. I would guess the daily price of shitcoins on whattomine plays exactly 0% in future production decisions. Not everone is obsessed with the daily price of Crypto and I would suggest you don't either.

but its because of crypto that the prices are so high

Let me guess, you listen to Tia Lopez? Lol.

[philipma1957]

Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000,  gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.

In what fucking currency dude?  USD?  Hopefully not.  

RX580 - 529.99
1080ti - 899.99
1070 - 549.99
1060 - 329.89
Vega 56 - 999.99
Vega 64 - 1199.99

All of that is in stock right now (02-06-18 @ 20:55 EST) priced in USD.  It's too fucking high.  I agree ... I'm not buying gpu's at those prices.  But compared to your bullshit numbers, they are lower, if you are posting USD values.  You're inflating your fucking numbers, because you pull them from your ass.  Simple as that.  If you want to post GPU prices, do it with some fucking accuracy and state the fucking currency, you idiot.  Maybe that's why you don't state the currency ... So people just don't look further and believe your made up bullshit.

It pisses me off so badly ... Lol ... Because I do agree with you.  I don't think anyone should be buying gpu's at pumped up prices right now ...  but you post bullshit numbers.  I'm proving it to you right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7uxgei/gpu_stock_thread_quick_guide_for_gpu_hunting_in/?st=jdbxtvfk&sh=2b2bab0d

P.S. ... You are the only senior member on this site that has posted such stupidity that I've felt the need to call out and prove wrong!  And I will continue to do it.

only the 1060's are left now

[leowonderful]

The buildapcsales sub is still alive and kicking, and if you're quick enough and also have notifications set up wherever possible you'll be able to get a card- just a couple minutes ago an Armor 570 8GB was posted for $350 and a 1070 just around $550.

(570 in stock for now)
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137256&buyingoptions=New

(1070)
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127951&cm_re=gtx_1070-_-14-127-951-_-Product

[gotminer]

Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000,  gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.

In what fucking currency dude?  USD?  Hopefully not.  

RX580 - 529.99
1080ti - 899.99
1070 - 549.99
1060 - 329.89
Vega 56 - 999.99
Vega 64 - 1199.99

All of that is in stock right now (02-06-18 @ 20:55 EST) priced in USD.  It's too fucking high.  I agree ... I'm not buying gpu's at those prices.  But compared to your bullshit numbers, they are lower, if you are posting USD values.  You're inflating your fucking numbers, because you pull them from your ass.  Simple as that.  If you want to post GPU prices, do it with some fucking accuracy and state the fucking currency, you idiot.  Maybe that's why you don't state the currency ... So people just don't look further and believe your made up bullshit.

It pisses me off so badly ... Lol ... Because I do agree with you.  I don't think anyone should be buying gpu's at pumped up prices right now ...  but you post bullshit numbers.  I'm proving it to you right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7uxgei/gpu_stock_thread_quick_guide_for_gpu_hunting_in/?st=jdbxtvfk&sh=2b2bab0d

P.S. ... You are the only senior member on this site that has posted such stupidity that I've felt the need to call out and prove wrong!  And I will continue to do it.

only the 1060's are left now

That's fine ... Supply is low, demand is high.  They sell out fast.  I'm just calling out someone who I think shit posts more than anyone that I've ever seen on this forum with inflated numbers.  And I don't claim to have been around for a long time.  I'm just tired of his stupidity.  It irritates with me, because I agree with what he says, but I don't agree with his numbers.  Not at all.

All of that in mind, Phillip, you are one of the very few people on this forum that I hold to a high level of respect.  I give that respect to people who post negatives and postives without going over the top.  I've never seen you post anything that I didn't believe to be the "current" truth.  Metroid on the other hand, I see him either super hot or super cold ... He is the new Richard Heart of bitcointalk.

[gotminer]

Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000,  gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.

In what fucking currency dude?  USD?  Hopefully not.  

RX580 - 529.99
1080ti - 899.99
1070 - 549.99
1060 - 329.89
Vega 56 - 999.99
Vega 64 - 1199.99

All of that is in stock right now (02-06-18 @ 20:55 EST) priced in USD.  It's too fucking high.  I agree ... I'm not buying gpu's at those prices.  But compared to your bullshit numbers, they are lower, if you are posting USD values.  You're inflating your fucking numbers, because you pull them from your ass.  Simple as that.  If you want to post GPU prices, do it with some fucking accuracy and state the fucking currency, you idiot.  Maybe that's why you don't state the currency ... So people just don't look further and believe your made up bullshit.

It pisses me off so badly ... Lol ... Because I do agree with you.  I don't think anyone should be buying gpu's at pumped up prices right now ...  but you post bullshit numbers.  I'm proving it to you right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7uxgei/gpu_stock_thread_quick_guide_for_gpu_hunting_in/?st=jdbxtvfk&sh=2b2bab0d

P.S. ... You are the only senior member on this site that has posted such stupidity that I've felt the need to call out and prove wrong!  And I will continue to do it.

only the 1060's are left now

That's fine ... Supply is low, demand is high.  They sell out fast.  I'm just calling out someone who I think shit posts more than anyone that I've ever seen on this forum with inflated numbers.  And I don't claim to have been around for a long time.  I'm just tired of his stupidity.  It irritates with me, because I agree with what he says, but I don't agree with his numbers.  Not at all.

All of that in mind, Phillip, you are one of the very few people on this forum that I hold to a high level of respect.  I give that respect to people who post negatives and postives without going over the top.  I've never seen you post anything that I didn't believe to be the "current" truth.  Metroid on the other hand, I see him either super hot or super cold ... He is the new Richard Heart of bitcointalk.

The new Richard Heart of bitcointalk without the twitter following, I need to add.

[blockchange88]

ive been picking up 1-3 1080tis almost daily on amazon for about 760 incl tax. fast hands and big balls, thats all you need.BTCBTCBTC

[blockchange88]

Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000,  gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.

In what fucking currency dude?  USD?  Hopefully not.  

RX580 - 529.99
1080ti - 899.99
1070 - 549.99
1060 - 329.89
Vega 56 - 999.99
Vega 64 - 1199.99

All of that is in stock right now (02-06-18 @ 20:55 EST) priced in USD.  It's too fucking high.  I agree ... I'm not buying gpu's at those prices.  But compared to your bullshit numbers, they are lower, if you are posting USD values.  You're inflating your fucking numbers, because you pull them from your ass.  Simple as that.  If you want to post GPU prices, do it with some fucking accuracy and state the fucking currency, you idiot.  Maybe that's why you don't state the currency ... So people just don't look further and believe your made up bullshit.

It pisses me off so badly ... Lol ... Because I do agree with you.  I don't think anyone should be buying gpu's at pumped up prices right now ...  but you post bullshit numbers.  I'm proving it to you right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7uxgei/gpu_stock_thread_quick_guide_for_gpu_hunting_in/?st=jdbxtvfk&sh=2b2bab0d

P.S. ... You are the only senior member on this site that has posted such stupidity that I've felt the need to call out and prove wrong!  And I will continue to do it.

only the 1060's are left now

That's fine ... Supply is low, demand is high.  They sell out fast.  I'm just calling out someone who I think shit posts more than anyone that I've ever seen on this forum with inflated numbers.  And I don't claim to have been around for a long time.  I'm just tired of his stupidity.  It irritates with me, because I agree with what he says, but I don't agree with his numbers.  Not at all.

All of that in mind, Phillip, you are one of the very few people on this forum that I hold to a high level of respect.  I give that respect to people who post negatives and postives without going over the top.  I've never seen you post anything that I didn't believe to be the "current" truth.  Metroid on the other hand, I see him either super hot or super cold ... He is the new Richard Heart of bitcointalk.

lolol richard heart took a 10lb shit on BTC the other day. CFD coin? seriously? the dudes got too much money and lost his mind like charlie lee.

[Undefined31415]

When supply exceeds demand, retailers generally rely on maintaining competitive prices to ensure that other retailers don't secure more sales. In a way, they are somewhat desperate for cards to sell. While, in the current state of the market, it is still true that lower prices are favored by buyers, the need for a retailer to set a price in the ballpark of the MSRP is greatly reduced because they can be confident that enough sales can be secured to deplete their available stock at higher prices, since competition between buyers is much more significant than competition between retailers when demand greatly exceeds supply. (The question becomes "Why should they sell to you?" rather than "Why should you buy from them?")


Keep in mind that production of GPUs and graphics cards was originally designed for a market where the average user has 1-2 desktop PCs, each with 0, 1, maybe 2 discrete graphics cards each (3-4 way SLI/crossfire are uncommon, due to the diminishing returns offered and generally poor support overall). Average users are expected to upgrade their graphics cards no more than once per new generation of GPUs, often much less frequently, and some users purchase prebuilt gaming systems.

Of course, production under that model always maintained a surplus, since you could always purchase a recent graphics card at or below MSRP at almost any time.

Now, increase the popularity of mining:

A typical mining rig has somewhere on the order of 6-12 cards, to balance out the desire for squeezing the most of the purchase of one rig base (motherboard/CPU/storage device/memory/etc.), and avoiding having too many eggs in one basket + setup headaches. Even if just 1% of the knowledgeable PC-building community were to average 3-4 rigs each, demand would increase from the previous model significantly, likely far beyond the aforementioned surplus of cards. (After all, maintaining a ridiculously large surplus of cards would be a huge waste, so there was no reason AMD/Nvidia and their card manufacturing partners would constantly be prepared for huge increases in demand.)


Regardless of what Nvidia might tell its partners about favoring gamers over miners, a seller gets paid the same amount regardless of what the buyer chooses to do with the card (neglecting warranty services). If sellers strategically set prices just below the threshold at which mining appears* to be unlikely, then the inflated price allows the seller to receive the greatest revenue from their limited stock.

*The appearance of the threshold is more important than what it may be in reality, since uninformed buyers may attempt to purchase cards at absurd prices, if they choose to believe that they will achieve a significant return on their investment before their hardware becomes obsolete.

[yhhy]

Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000,  gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.

What, for real? That is just insane

[gotminer]

Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000,  gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.

What, for real? That is just insane

Not for real.

[neuraminidase7]

i wish i could get one gtx1070 but miners destroyed the stocks 

[gotminer]

i wish i could get one gtx1070 but miners destroyed the stocks 

Go for the TI.  Wish I could get some too.  I only have 12 of that model.

[2stout]

And this won't be changing anytime soon; if anything, likely to sustain through the market correction and potentially get worse if the market improves really soon.

[DigitalLemming]

This will be the norm unless cryptos crash to a point where mining is no longer popular. When the next line of cards comes out hopefully people will ditch some earlier cards and they will enter the market again. GPU companies also should increase the supply on the later batches.