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February 12, 2018, 02:12:13 PM
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If you are a crypto newbie start from point 1. If you already invested money into cryptos then start from point 2.

1. Invest only the amount you can afford to lose without even sweating about it.
2. Wait for the rise of the value of your investment around 2x and then pull out the amount of your initial investment. This way it's like you never invested and you still have a profit, and a portfolio.
3. When you receive some extra profit put that aside too - open yourself a little "crisis fund".
4. When the crisis happens, look for the prices of travel to the tropical country you always wanted to visit.
5. Activate your "crisis fund".
6. Take your family on a vacation and enjoy the sunshine while everybody else is panicking.
7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.
8. Repeat steps 3-8.
Always invest on the amount that you can afford to lose which wont really impact you if those funds are lost or gone. This is a number 1 rule for me and must be consider on all investors into this volatile market. We don't know on what would happen next and talking about crisis fund then we should really have that amount for us to make some emergency or last resort moves for us to recover or might able to get out on such big loss. Not a guaranteed but its much better to have this kind of consideration.

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February 12, 2018, 02:41:03 PM
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This doesn't have any logic:
1. I invested 100 dollars.
2. OK price is x2 and I pulled out my initial investment of 100 dollars.
3. Extra profit in time when price is rising, but what if price is going down? But let's say price go 3 time higher.
4. Prices for tropical country for whole family is minimum 2000 dollars.
5. To activate my 500 dollars crisis fund, I'm best case that much?!
6. Where we can go with 500 dollars.
7. Come back from holiday and you are in big dept.
8. To repeat what when I returned all the money?

Your strategy will work if you invest thousands of dollars, and who can afford to lose that much? Your strategy doesn't work much if you invested in wrong time! Read about people who bought at 19000 dollars, where are they now, and where is their profit?
Your strategy will work just if circumstances are perfect.
Don't fool yourself that this will work, I don't know what other people comment.

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February 12, 2018, 02:46:18 PM
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Agree!

If you put all your money to invest, it is gambling, not a investment whatever you put your money on it.
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February 12, 2018, 03:11:11 PM
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This is the kind of strategy can be helpful indeed if we also want to enjoy real life while dealing in the ups and downs of cryptocurrency trading and holding. There should be a certain amount set aside to get way from the seemingly mad world of cryptocurrency -- this way we are not easily burned out especially when we are seeing the sea of red tides washing on into our cryptocurrency portfolio. Nice tips.
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February 12, 2018, 03:20:58 PM
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Nice write up and I hope some newbies here are doing what op has recommended especially  number 2. Never invest the money you cannot afford to lose and you should  be careful not to invest another person money. I have been trading forex for quite some time and I have been taking my profit and capital when I need to used the fund. I also think that I need to make more money in other to improve my financial condition and also to be able to go for vacation with my family.
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February 12, 2018, 03:38:43 PM
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If you are a crypto newbie start from point 1. If you already invested money into cryptos then start from point 2.

1. Invest only the amount you can afford to lose without even sweating about it.
2. Wait for the rise of the value of your investment around 2x and then pull out the amount of your initial investment. This way it's like you never invested and you still have a profit, and a portfolio.
3. When you receive some extra profit put that aside too - open yourself a little "crisis fund".
4. When the crisis happens, look for the prices of travel to the tropical country you always wanted to visit.
5. Activate your "crisis fund".
6. Take your family on a vacation and enjoy the sunshine while everybody else is panicking.
7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.
8. Repeat steps 3-8.

the strategy you mentioned is true but sometimes I still get scared when I'm stuck at high prices again, so to overcome it I should just wait for normal kembabli prices by closing the existing market.
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February 12, 2018, 03:55:54 PM
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This doesn't look like a strategy to me at all. It is more like a future story to me Grin Grin .
My best strategy during the time of crisis would be something like
1) Find out why the prices are dropping.
2) Analyse the charts and predict if the price will drop further.
3) Sell your coins and buy back at a lower price to gain an increase in capital.
4) Enjoy more profit when the price increases
For anybody who finds it tough to do the above should just hold on to what they have. Never panic. Chill out and stay away until the crash is over.

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February 12, 2018, 04:13:25 PM
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For me to survive in the economic downturn is innovation and reduce personnel. If not innovative, you will be backward. When the economy is in crisis you try to overcome. Reduce personnel, focus the main items to business.
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February 12, 2018, 04:20:15 PM
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I will tell you secret strategy - don't buy any "old" tokens that already been traded on exchange, you need only invest in ICO during crisis. The secret is that new tokens (ICO) is not dropping in crisis period, in most cases only old tokens affected by this. So best practice is to invest in new promising projects with whitelists and sell new tokens right after exchange listing.Don't waste money!

Although that new tokens or ICOs have plenty of potential for the future, there is no guarantee that the token will succeed or even become listed in an exchange in the future. Although it's a common mistake to buy coins which are already popular and has accumulated to a high price, it's safer to buy these coins once they drop especially for those who are just new in the cryptocurrency scene. It's going to be hard to choose worthwhile ICOs because there are so many available, and a number of them may be scams.

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February 12, 2018, 04:46:27 PM
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If you are a crypto newbie start from point 1. If you already invested money into cryptos then start from point 2.

1. Invest only the amount you can afford to lose without even sweating about it.
2. Wait for the rise of the value of your investment around 2x and then pull out the amount of your initial investment. This way it's like you never invested and you still have a profit, and a portfolio.
3. When you receive some extra profit put that aside too - open yourself a little "crisis fund".
4. When the crisis happens, look for the prices of travel to the tropical country you always wanted to visit.
5. Activate your "crisis fund".
6. Take your family on a vacation and enjoy the sunshine while everybody else is panicking.
7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.
8. Repeat steps 3-8.
This kinds of mindset is really helpful to avoid wrong actions when crisis happens with your investment, I like the way you bring the ideas that you 'should
just need to be more patience and just cool it up even in the time of some downfall, better to stay with your family and relax for a while go back when you feel that something is already been accomplished.

This only thing that you need to bear in your mind and I believe this is only works for a while and this is only effective if you have small bankroll and then you can really put that aside. But when you put really large amount on it, I do not think that you even have time to take your family or even gather with them. This is just some distraction that you can think of. Somehow it is like gambling addicted, I do not called it is strategy, this is just some normal mindset that you need to do in emergency
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February 12, 2018, 04:50:19 PM
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If you are a crypto newbie start from point 1. If you already invested money into cryptos then start from point 2.

1. Invest only the amount you can afford to lose without even sweating about it.
2. Wait for the rise of the value of your investment around 2x and then pull out the amount of your initial investment. This way it's like you never invested and you still have a profit, and a portfolio.
3. When you receive some extra profit put that aside too - open yourself a little "crisis fund".
4. When the crisis happens, look for the prices of travel to the tropical country you always wanted to visit.
5. Activate your "crisis fund".
6. Take your family on a vacation and enjoy the sunshine while everybody else is panicking.
7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.
8. Repeat steps 3-8.
This kinds of mindset is really helpful to avoid wrong actions when crisis happens with your investment, I like the way you bring the ideas that you 'should
just need to be more patience and just cool it up even in the time of some downfall, better to stay with your family and relax for a while go back when you feel that something is already been accomplished.

This only thing that you need to bear in your mind and I believe this is only works for a while and this is only effective if you have small bankroll and then you can really put that aside. But when you put really large amount on it, I do not think that you even have time to take your family or even gather with them. This is just some distraction that you can think of. Somehow it is like gambling addicted, I do not called it is strategy, this is just some normal mindset that you need to do in emergency
You cant even say such thing because there are people who could able to control theirselves and do withstand such pressure even he do have large amount involve on doing trading or investment. Setting it aside is possible but there would be times that we do always think of it on whats the current situation of the market.Chilling out isnt bad but we should know on how to move into these kind of situations.

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February 12, 2018, 05:07:20 PM
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If you are a crypto newbie start from point 1. If you already invested money into cryptos then start from point 2.

1. Invest only the amount you can afford to lose without even sweating about it.
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I agree do not force yourself to find bigger funds invest your money do you have.

2. Wait for the rise of the value of your investment around 2x and then pull out the amount of your initial investment. This way it's like you never invested and you still have a profit, and a portfolio.
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Thats idea is common strategy of the tradey in times fall down need to be patience and wait to pump again the price to avoid loses.

3. When you receive some extra profit put that aside too - open yourself a little "crisis fund".
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When I receive extra profits i use in my daily needs to sustain for my family needs until i can recover my investment.

4. When the crisis happens, look for the prices of travel to the tropical country you always wanted to visit.
5. Activate your "crisis fund".
6. Take your family on a vacation and enjoy the sunshine while everybody else is panicking.
7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.
8. Repeat steps 3-8.
Number 4 to 8 are not good idea for because in time of crisis people need to minimized the expenses.

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February 12, 2018, 06:58:47 PM
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If you are a crypto newbie start from point 1. If you already invested money into cryptos then start from point 2.

1. Invest only the amount you can afford to lose without even sweating about it.
2. Wait for the rise of the value of your investment around 2x and then pull out the amount of your initial investment. This way it's like you never invested and you still have a profit, and a portfolio.
3. When you receive some extra profit put that aside too - open yourself a little "crisis fund".
4. When the crisis happens, look for the prices of travel to the tropical country you always wanted to visit.
5. Activate your "crisis fund".
6. Take your family on a vacation and enjoy the sunshine while everybody else is panicking.
7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.
8. Repeat steps 3-8.
The best possible surviving strategy would be to analyse the situation and to react according to it.People tend to panic at the time of crash but if that panic gets evacuated the crash might not occur at all.Because panic selling would be nullified with this and the meaning of crash is prices going down due to excessive selling and decrease in market cap.So people should do some R&D work and then decide whether to sell or to hold.
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February 12, 2018, 07:38:15 PM
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7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.

Lol How long it takes for market to recover and rise? do you think 3-4 weeks? It might take years, so you probably need all of your funds for this long travel  Smiley
Lol that's true but at least you can avoid the early panic times , for me it's necessary to have an emergency funds and activate it while the market crash, take that rare opportunity to buy in very low rates so your past losses could get covered and even you get more profit, just improve your analysis skill.

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February 13, 2018, 12:02:36 PM
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Number 4 to 8 are not good idea for because in time of crisis people need to minimized the expenses.

That is absolutely true. However, I meant a crisis in crypto world, not overall crisis. And, just for the sake of possible future economic discussions please keep in mind that while for the individual person it is a good strategy to save money during the crisis, for a society it is the worst strategy as only a good cash flow can bring back the investments and push the economics towards the upward trend. That is one of the basic economic phenomena that for some reason most of those in position to do something about it don't seem to comprehend.

Somehow it is like gambling addicted, I do not called it is strategy, this is just some normal mindset that you need to do in emergency

I like how you called it "a mindset", and not "a strategy" as that was precisely my point. It is funny how most of the people took it literally.

This doesn't have any logic:
1. I invested 100 dollars.
2. OK price is x2 and I pulled out my initial investment of 100 dollars.
3. Extra profit in time when price is rising, but what if price is going down? But let's say price go 3 time higher.
4. Prices for tropical country for whole family is minimum 2000 dollars.
5. To activate my 500 dollars crisis fund, I'm best case that much?!
6. Where we can go with 500 dollars.
7. Come back from holiday and you are in big dept.
8. To repeat what when I returned all the money?

Your strategy will work if you invest thousands of dollars, and who can afford to lose that much? Your strategy doesn't work much if you invested in wrong time! Read about people who bought at 19000 dollars, where are they now, and where is their profit?
Your strategy will work just if circumstances are perfect.
Don't fool yourself that this will work, I don't know what other people comment.

1. Your investment is rather small, but it is a good start, or better said a perfect start if that is all you can afford to lose without caring deeply about it.
2. I would have waited a little bit more actually, but OK, a safe approach is a good approach.
3. By my experience with cryptos, if you have a portfolio it will always rise in a long term. If you invest only in one coin you are playing with your luck. If the price goes down, you have to be patient. So far the long-term trend was always upwards. Patience is a key here as you could have invested just before the crash which would comprehend longer waiting.....
4.  Yeah, that was basically a joke, what is important is a mindset. Take 10 USD from the crisis funds and by an ice-cream, I don't know, whatever you like.
5.-8. Kind of self-explanatory after you understand 1-4.


the strategy you mentioned is true but sometimes I still get scared when I'm stuck at high prices again, so to overcome it I should just wait for normal kembabli prices by closing the existing market.

We all get scared, that is normal. The key lies in minimizing the anxiety.

This doesn't look like a strategy to me at all. It is more like a future story to me Grin Grin .
My best strategy during the time of crisis would be something like
1) Find out why the prices are dropping.
2) Analyse the charts and predict if the price will drop further.
3) Sell your coins and buy back at a lower price to gain an increase in capital.
4) Enjoy more profit when the price increases
For anybody who finds it tough to do the above should just hold on to what they have. Never panic. Chill out and stay away until the crash is over.

Absolutely, that is the purpose of a technical analysis. You should always strive to do one. Your strategy can easily be incorporated into mine. Nothing clashing here.


If you are a crypto newbie start from point 1. If you already invested money into cryptos then start from point 2.

1. Invest only the amount you can afford to lose without even sweating about it.
Very important part. There is nothing worse than having to cash out and market is deep in the red. You will sweat no matter the amount Smiley
2. Wait for the rise of the value of your investment around 2x and then pull out the amount of your initial investment. This way it's like you never invested and you still have a profit, and a portfolio.
I am doing something similar, cashing out in parts as my coin is growing. I have different exit strategies for each coin but usually I cash out first 30% on x3. I would like to point out that you haven't earned anything on coin that has gone up 1000x until you cash out. It can crash the next day. Remember: Lock in your profits.
3. When you receive some extra profit put that aside too - open yourself a little "crisis fund".
I actually have "crisis fund" and "reinvestment fund"
4. When the crisis happens, look for the prices of travel to the tropical country you always wanted to visit.
5. Activate your "crisis fund".
6. Take your family on a vacation and enjoy the sunshine while everybody else is panicking.
7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.
Maybe most important one. Don't check every few minutes. You will just get stressed.
8. Repeat steps 3-8.
Unfortunately, real life doesn't let me do steps 4-8, but I use the times when market is in red to add some cash from reinvestment fund into projects I believe in. Effectively buying them at 50% or more discount. Of course it is difficult to judge the exact bottom of the crash. I have for instance added to my bitcoin position at 10k because I thought it would not go any lower.

Good advice, i have taken the liberty to add my take on your steps in green color inside the quote.

Bravo Trofo. Many can learn from you, myself included.

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February 18, 2018, 06:32:45 PM
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If you are a crypto newbie start from point 1. If you already invested money into cryptos then start from point 2.

1. Invest only the amount you can afford to lose without even sweating about it.
2. Wait for the rise of the value of your investment around 2x and then pull out the amount of your initial investment. This way it's like you never invested and you still have a profit, and a portfolio.
3. When you receive some extra profit put that aside too - open yourself a little "crisis fund".
4. When the crisis happens, look for the prices of travel to the tropical country you always wanted to visit.
5. Activate your "crisis fund".
6. Take your family on a vacation and enjoy the sunshine while everybody else is panicking.
7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.
8. Repeat steps 3-8.
The best way too deal with this kind of stress crisis is too maintain your composure and calmness.The reaction you give to this kind of crash can determine the effects of crash.The drastic you react you loose tend to lose more while if you react normally you can even earn from this.What you have mention in your post is all technical thins which are also ring but for me these are the two things which really change the whole concept.

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February 18, 2018, 06:35:04 PM
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7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.

Lol How long it takes for market to recover and rise? do you think 3-4 weeks? It might take years, so you probably need all of your funds for this long travel  Smiley
Lol that's true but at least you can avoid the early panic times , for me it's necessary to have an emergency funds and activate it while the market crash, take that rare opportunity to buy in very low rates so your past losses could get covered and even you get more profit, just improve your analysis skill.

Enjoying our portfolios is possible when pump times only. I can give an example from november and december 2017 maybe. They were such greate times for us to enjoy our portfolios. But checking it is a addiction for me.
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February 18, 2018, 06:51:33 PM
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7. Return from the vacation and irregularly check your portfolio to enjoy the rise in value.

Lol How long it takes for market to recover and rise? do you think 3-4 weeks? It might take years, so you probably need all of your funds for this long travel  Smiley
Lol that's true but at least you can avoid the early panic times , for me it's necessary to have an emergency funds and activate it while the market crash, take that rare opportunity to buy in very low rates so your past losses could get covered and even you get more profit, just improve your analysis skill.

Enjoying our portfolios is possible when pump times only. I can give an example from november and december 2017 maybe. They were such greate times for us to enjoy our portfolios. But checking it is a addiction for me.
Yeah, we have passed a precious time from Nov to Dec. I understand the amount of people coming into the market but most of them come on without good practice entire the markets and eventually fall in crisis.
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February 18, 2018, 07:23:31 PM
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sell the top and buy the bottom . crypto 101 .
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February 18, 2018, 08:11:49 PM
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This is right, the best way to avoid losses is to diversify your investments, invest only the amount of money you can afford to lose, never invest during the peak market price, always do your research before investing, don't get too emotional during the market crash and panic sell, and to hold your investments instead of incurring losses.
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