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February 08, 2018, 12:31:14 AM
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1) The rich investors knew the crypto market was going to plunge just before the SEC meeting.
2) They sold off their stocks (down 9% or so since Jan 22) anticipating the crypto plunge
3) They now have funds available in their accounts to play the crypto market.
4) Crypto market will go to astronomical levels it has never seen before, like 100k+ for BTC.
5) Media will talk about it nonstop, and ignorant masses (like I was a month ago) will invest buying at market price
6) This will become the new bubble.  Huge one.
7) The intelligent advantaged seasoned rich traders sell off and play/milk the market daytrading (with assistance of bots & computers)
Cool bubble pops
9) Huge transfer of wealth, yet again from the ignorant lower class to richest people.  Just like the tech bubble, housing bubble -- now the crypto bubble.

Just a thought anyways Smiley

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February 08, 2018, 12:39:10 AM
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Stocks diving from ATHs, seems everyone is just waiting for the positive signal to pour money into the crypto markets again.
Wishing you are correct man. This crash is making me anxious.

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February 08, 2018, 12:54:26 AM
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Stocks diving from ATHs, seems everyone is just waiting for the positive signal to pour money into the crypto markets again.
Wishing you are correct man. This crash is making me anxious.

Do cost average investments?  I started doing that to help protect myself.
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February 08, 2018, 12:54:59 AM
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I think there is fiat currency destruction going on right now, but it is not in support of cryptocurrency, instead it is to replace with another fiat running on distributed system controlled by corrupt people, as for how BTC price react to that, not sure what will happen

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February 08, 2018, 02:32:11 AM
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1) The rich investors knew the crypto market was going to plunge just before the SEC meeting.
2) They sold off their stocks (down 9% or so since Jan 22) anticipating the crypto plunge
3) They now have funds available in their accounts to play the crypto market.
4) Crypto market will go to astronomical levels it has never seen before, like 100k+ for BTC.
5) Media will talk about it nonstop, and ignorant masses (like I was a month ago) will invest buying at market price
6) This will become the new bubble.  Huge one.
7) The intelligent advantaged seasoned rich traders sell off and play/milk the market daytrading (with assistance of bots & computers)
Cool bubble pops
9) Huge transfer of wealth, yet again from the ignorant lower class to richest people.  Just like the tech bubble, housing bubble -- now the crypto bubble.

Just a thought anyways Smiley



Uh, I'm very skeptical of this.

If even a majority of the stock holders know about crypto, they probably want to stay away from it. Everything on the stock market is much much further away from the volatility of cryptocurrencies. Plus, I'm sure that if anyone was thinking about getting into crypto (given that they knew how to purchase it with minimal fees), then they would be pretty nervous about how the recent drop went. It wasn't a pretty site for anyone, and I'm positive it scared a lot of people away.

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February 09, 2018, 01:39:55 AM
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Hrm maybe my theory is right..

https://cointelegraph.com/news/dow-jones-drops-another-1000-points-in-a-week-crypto-markets-dont-quite-follow
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February 09, 2018, 02:14:32 AM
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We will only know after the fact. It's hard to come up with theories that describe such a massive system, especially trying to compare two massive systems that are extremely volatile right now.

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February 09, 2018, 03:06:53 AM
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This theory is not completely unlikely but there's a low chance these rich people—who are more versed in stocks—would shift to crypto which is much more complicated, in my POV. Though, I hope that would be the case; more popularity for cryptocurrency I guess...
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February 09, 2018, 03:20:11 AM
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Nice theory though.. But chances are still less for the institutional investors to put in their money into it. 
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February 09, 2018, 03:37:00 AM
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After bursting the tech stock market bubble and switching to housing, they slowly reinvested in stock market (partly because of the peculiarly convenient new lenient long term cap gains taxes laws, slowly regaining trust in people investing in stocks, it grew slowly into a large bubble)... that bubble pops and now goes into crypto and makes the most insane bubble ever.  That's why we hear the recent stories of these theories of bitcoin going to 50K to 100K soon.   Unware people who don't know much about investing --dollar cost averaging, selling and buying when approprate etc-- will get suckedred in again and then they will take their profits.. they are seasoned.. taking profits on every swing.. sometimes swing over 50% in one day.  they are making incredible money since the 6th.  End of rant Smiley

Interesting how everthything was timed.. for the transition.. between the media, the feds (sec etc), wall street, rich investors.. giggle.   How severely the market crashed right before sec meeting .. then sec's support of crypto.. and the bounce up.

I bet lots of stock profits were used to set as buy orders down at the lower tiers of the support lines of the BTC and ETH charts, in antcipiation of this all.  It was enough time for the sell of stocks (22nd of january), for the ACH withdrawel and ACH deposit into GDAX (etc).
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February 09, 2018, 05:50:05 AM
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I wonder would this implication be good or bad for the Cryptocurrency? Especially those small and tiny investors? If we're seeing a lot of manipulation even without the high rollers from Wallstreet what more if they join the party? What do you think guys?
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February 09, 2018, 05:55:16 AM
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Nice theory. But do we really need this money ?

We're fine with a BTC at 8000$. We need to get a price stabilization to discover new projects that will rise. Currently, the market is really boring as all altcoins are following BTC like sheeps.

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February 09, 2018, 11:07:40 AM
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I made a thread which could detail some of the key reasons behind the latest stock market decline. It could also explain some of the reasons behind bitcoin's latest decline as well:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2901643

Concerns over china's economy and what might be economic slowdown there could jeopardize future economic growth, financial earnings and tax revenue projections. This could explain the recent stock market decline: savvy investors are *pulling out* to protect their investment from what may be a lingering storm on the horizon.

There's another school of thought which says both the stock market and bitcoin declines were politically motivated. I think bitcoin's value dip was politically motivated as shown by the media making wild and untrue claims about tether to hide the degree to which btc's devaluation may have been caused by currency manipulation.

The stock market decline being politically motivated is likely untrue, in my opinion.

Economies and markets may be defined in terms of *boom* and *bust* cycles. The time to invest is when things are *booming*. Right now if concerns over china's economy are valid, we may be in a *bust* cycle. This could mean investors will take a vacation and avoid investing in markets, expecting them to contract or for growth potential to be minimal enough to not be worth it in terms of risk versus reward.

Looking at charts, it might be fair to say the price of bitcoin peaks at the end of the year near christmas(perhaps with the exception of around 2014 with the silk road Ross Ulbricht aka *Dread Pirate Roberts* crackdown and chinas ban on exchanges). I think investors might buy bitcoin towards the mid to end point of the year expecting the price to rise. That seasonal period could be the best time to *buy in* at least from a historical perspective.
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February 09, 2018, 11:36:22 AM
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1) The rich investors knew the crypto market was going to plunge just before the SEC meeting.
2) They sold off their stocks (down 9% or so since Jan 22) anticipating the crypto plunge
3) They now have funds available in their accounts to play the crypto market.
4) Crypto market will go to astronomical levels it has never seen before, like 100k+ for BTC.
5) Media will talk about it nonstop, and ignorant masses (like I was a month ago) will invest buying at market price
6) This will become the new bubble.  Huge one.
7) The intelligent advantaged seasoned rich traders sell off and play/milk the market daytrading (with assistance of bots & computers)
Cool bubble pops
9) Huge transfer of wealth, yet again from the ignorant lower class to richest people.  Just like the tech bubble, housing bubble -- now the crypto bubble.

Just a thought anyways Smiley


This might actually happen as we are in digital age and I believe in crypto, if we utilize and regulated right that is government eliminated scams and likes, most of the investors will go into it since they can trade their globally unlike in stock market that is limited at their place only.

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February 09, 2018, 11:39:42 AM
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1) The rich investors knew the crypto market was going to plunge just before the SEC meeting.
2) They sold off their stocks (down 9% or so since Jan 22) anticipating the crypto plunge
3) They now have funds available in their accounts to play the crypto market.
4) Crypto market will go to astronomical levels it has never seen before, like 100k+ for BTC.
5) Media will talk about it nonstop, and ignorant masses (like I was a month ago) will invest buying at market price
6) This will become the new bubble.  Huge one.
7) The intelligent advantaged seasoned rich traders sell off and play/milk the market daytrading (with assistance of bots & computers)
Cool bubble pops
9) Huge transfer of wealth, yet again from the ignorant lower class to richest people.  Just like the tech bubble, housing bubble -- now the crypto bubble.

Just a thought anyways Smiley


Even how many negative feedbacks or thoughts I heard I still believe in btc and other crypto that I am holding today because soon I know everything will go up again as I expected. If the price is now in stable dump then yes I still hold because I know that it will soon go up and I earn more profit than what I expect because btc will go up again and I do believe in that.
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February 09, 2018, 12:20:06 PM
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This theory is not completely unlikely but there's a low chance these rich people—who are more versed in stocks—would shift to crypto which is much more complicated, in my POV. Though, I hope that would be the case; more popularity for cryptocurrency I guess...
But for the proliferation of crypto currency rhey are more aware and even rhinking to invest because stock market to day will become colder because of crypto curtency and block chain technolgy that offers faster return of investment.

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February 09, 2018, 12:39:28 PM
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I know that stock is obsolete it is just a matter of time for blockchain technology to takeover. The stock exchange market need to get along with blockchain technology in order to survive.
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February 09, 2018, 03:59:19 PM
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I know that stock is obsolete it is just a matter of time for blockchain technology to takeover. The stock exchange market need to get alone with blockchain technology in order to survive.

Everything has time and  i guest is the best time for blockchain to take over from stock exchange.
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February 09, 2018, 04:07:19 PM
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Yeah, this might just happen or some of the investors have already started doing so. This could be positive response that’s causing the green market currently. If we stayed positive then all you said might just turn into reality. They have all the reasons to do and if they are really smart people then they won’t loose their money over stock exchange anymore but they should see the profits in the crypto now. They could be the next reason to grow the BTC into something giant currency. Let’s be positive about this.
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February 09, 2018, 06:25:58 PM
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I know that stock is obsolete it is just a matter of time for blockchain technology to takeover. The stock exchange market need to get along with blockchain technology in order to survive.

Or maybe that's what this huge team of insiders (sec, wall street, banks, elites, rich) wants you to believe.  They will keep milking the unregulated crypto market until it's not worth that much.. then the feds will outlaw it.    They will pump it up to very high levels say 100k then crash it for good, take the money and outlaw it.. okay i am being VERY pessimistic here. LOL.

Oh, also IRS will tell all the cryptotraders they owe several times more than they actually gained because of the paperwork nightmare. LOL.  So they will recapture that money too.     I'm depressed sorry lol. Worried about this all.
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