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February 08, 2018, 05:35:05 AM
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I believe bitcoincash (BCH) over Bitcoin (Bitcoin core), bitcoincash is the original that satoshi nakamoto wrote out as originally, the reason:
Bitcoincash is full of: "Low cosh transaction fees, Fast peer to peer transactions, Reliable transactions, Accept 0 confirmation transations, Decentralized development teams, Permissionless network and development, Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins), Proof of Work algorithm (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block, Digital currency '' ----> Bitcoin cash.
While bitcoin only has: "Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins, Proof of Workflow (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block), Bitcoin.
That's why I chose bitcoincash instead of bitcoin.

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February 08, 2018, 05:40:51 AM
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I believe bitcoincash (BCH) over Bitcoin (Bitcoin core), bitcoincash is the original that satoshi nakamoto wrote out as originally, the reason:
Bitcoincash is full of: "Low cosh transaction fees, Fast peer to peer transactions, Reliable transactions, Accept 0 confirmation transations, Decentralized development teams, Permissionless network and development, Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins), Proof of Work algorithm (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block, Digital currency '' ----> Bitcoin cash.
While bitcoin only has: "Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins, Proof of Workflow (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block), Bitcoin.
That's why I chose bitcoincash instead of bitcoin.

I think bitcoin 's alternative to bitcoin is just a matter of time when top leaders in the crypto market like Roger Verver, or the world' s biggest digger, BITMAIN, support bitcoincash by accepting full - bitcoincash, Bitcoin Core is still the No. 1 game not just for its technology, it is the first bitcoin from its founding and the whole population knows only about Bitcoin core. , but I do not understand the new bitcoin cash from the most original since satoshi nakamoto wrote bitcoin on blockchain, I have converted all bitcoin to bitcoincash and hold Bitcoincash. I also believe that bitcoincash will soon be able to replace bitcoin and become the most valuable currency in the world today.

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February 08, 2018, 05:42:01 AM
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February 08, 2018, 05:44:15 AM
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Now tell us why you chose bitcointalk.
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February 08, 2018, 06:04:02 AM
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Now tell us why you chose bitcointalk.

Why do I choose bitcointalk ?, I have marketed more since the beginning of 2017, and there is no such information from the forums ??, because the bitcoin is too new, and thanks bitcointalk I have learned all the information from The use of bitcoin for high profits, as well as for mining, ICo, etc., all I needed was on bitcointalk, the biggest bitcoin information community, so I'm so thankful bitcointalk gave me lots of info. As such, Bitcoin is the world's first community for bitcoin users, so I hope bitcointalk will grow stronger and become the best bitcoin portal in the world!

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February 08, 2018, 06:07:51 AM
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I think this is an interesting idea.
bitcoin cash is just a fork of the bitcoin, you can create a  fork, can create a new better than bitcoin cash fork, so why do we need to value the bitcoin cash?

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February 08, 2018, 06:44:15 AM
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I think this is an interesting idea.
bitcoin cash is just a fork of the bitcoin, you can create a  fork, can create a new better than bitcoin cash fork, so why do we need to value the bitcoin cash?

I remember reading a report a few days ago that claims that bitcoincash is the original and the current bitcoin is the fork.
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February 08, 2018, 08:46:07 AM
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I think this is an interesting idea.
bitcoin cash is just a fork of the bitcoin, you can create a  fork, can create a new better than bitcoin cash fork, so why do we need to value the bitcoin cash?

I remember reading a report a few days ago that claims that bitcoincash is the original and the current bitcoin is the fork.
BCash was just one of the many breaks from original. It just changed a basic parameter, that is the maximum block size. It was a hard-fork from the original chain as none of the nodes running the original bitcoin client (maintained in the original bitcoin repository) would support it.

They have a vision that involves specialized mining hardware running people with enough data storage and upgrade capabilities to maintain a full node that would result from an increased block size. They see users as running the SPV wallet while miners maintain the network as well as full node.

The real/ original Bitcoin (call it Bitcoin core if you like) vision is to always keep it possible for anybody willing to give the time to be able to run a full node with hardware investment not being an entry barrier.

Why is a full node important? Well, A full node is what validates the chain and transactions. It follows the consensus rules agreed by community of merchants and users running full nodes. If only miners/ businesses run full nodes, there is nothing stopping them from changing the rules to their own advantage.

These "reports" that you read are the same people that want you to believe what they tell you to. Go beyond the media/ marketing and judge for yourself.
 
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February 08, 2018, 08:56:10 AM
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I believe bitcoincash (BCH) over Bitcoin (Bitcoin core), bitcoincash is the original that satoshi nakamoto wrote out as originally, the reason:
Bitcoincash is full of: "Low cosh transaction fees, Fast peer to peer transactions, Reliable transactions, Accept 0 confirmation transations, Decentralized development teams, Permissionless network and development, Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins), Proof of Work algorithm (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block, Digital currency '' ----> Bitcoin cash.
While bitcoin only has: "Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins, Proof of Workflow (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block), Bitcoin.
That's why I chose bitcoincash instead of bitcoin.

You are ranked as a member at the forum and you are touting "Low cost, Fast transaction" etc. as some sort of advantage. The only reason on-chain transaction on Bcash are fast as of now is that the amount of transactions simply hasn't approached the level of bitcoin.
I took screenshots of the BTC and BCash blocks in this post sometime back. See for yourself.

Their so called development mostly involves marketing and cooking up foundations run by a small group of people. It is nowhere near the approach that the core developers had towards the bitcoin development through all these years.

The reality is that BCash is simply another Altcoin. What you should understand is that you don't have to become a BCash shill and "choose" between BTC and BCash. Keep your Bcash all you want but don't forget that Bitcoin is the original. If an alt starts promoting itself as the original then its just clever marketing and media against the community.
If you feel so inclined then you can read here my reasons why I choose Bitcoin and not BCash.
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February 08, 2018, 09:01:28 AM
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I believe bitcoincash (BCH) over Bitcoin (Bitcoin core), bitcoincash is the original that satoshi nakamoto wrote out as originally, the reason:
Bitcoincash is full of: "Low cosh transaction fees, Fast peer to peer transactions, Reliable transactions, Accept 0 confirmation transations, Decentralized development teams, Permissionless network and development, Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins), Proof of Work algorithm (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block, Digital currency '' ----> Bitcoin cash.
While bitcoin only has: "Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins, Proof of Workflow (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block), Bitcoin.
That's why I chose bitcoincash instead of bitcoin.

OK, and what makes this altcoin so special? It brings nothing new. Anyone can make a fork of Bitcoin and tell the same things as you did.
Imho all Bitcoin Whatever forks are all scam. And you know why? Because their only purpose is to get money off people.
You know what's the only one difference between BCash and any other random fork of Bitcoin? The money invested in it to get it listed at exchanges and create hype around it.

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February 08, 2018, 09:03:03 AM
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I think this is an interesting idea.
bitcoin cash is just a fork of the bitcoin, you can create a  fork, can create a new better than bitcoin cash fork, so why do we need to value the bitcoin cash?

I remember reading a report a few days ago that claims that bitcoincash is the original and the current bitcoin is the fork.
BCash was just one of the many breaks from original. It just changed a basic parameter, that is the maximum block size. It was a hard-fork from the original chain as none of the nodes running the original bitcoin client (maintained in the original bitcoin repository) would support it.

They have a vision that involves specialized mining hardware running people with enough data storage and upgrade capabilities to maintain a full node that would result from an increased block size. They see users as running the SPV wallet while miners maintain the network as well as full node.

The real/ original Bitcoin (call it Bitcoin core if you like) vision is to always keep it possible for anybody willing to give the time to be able to run a full node with hardware investment not being an entry barrier.

Why is a full node important? Well, A full node is what validates the chain and transactions. It follows the consensus rules agreed by community of merchants and users running full nodes. If only miners/ businesses run full nodes, there is nothing stopping them from changing the rules to their own advantage.

These "reports" that you read are the same people that want you to believe what they tell you to. Go beyond the media/ marketing and judge for yourself.
 

Here the report
https://cointelegraph.com/news/fork-fail-us-government-claims-bitcoin-cash-is-original-bitcoin

There’s even a white paper on the subject.
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February 08, 2018, 09:05:34 AM
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I believe bitcoincash (BCH) over Bitcoin (Bitcoin core), bitcoincash is the original that satoshi nakamoto wrote out as originally, the reason:
Bitcoincash is full of: "Low cosh transaction fees, Fast peer to peer transactions, Reliable transactions, Accept 0 confirmation transations, Decentralized development teams, Permissionless network and development, Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins), Proof of Work algorithm (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block, Digital currency '' ----> Bitcoin cash.
While bitcoin only has: "Open source code, Limited supply (21 million coins, Proof of Workflow (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block), Bitcoin.
That's why I chose bitcoincash instead of bitcoin.

Bitcoin has lost its purpose. In December, the transaction fee was as high as $100 per transaction. How can BTC be used for making payments, when the fee is this high? It may be suitable for transactions worth more than $10,000. But most of us use BTC for making transfers for far less amounts.

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February 08, 2018, 09:22:29 AM
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I believe bitcoincash (BCH) over Bitcoin (Bitcoin core)
So your name is racist? Huh
bitcoincash is the original that satoshi nakamoto wrote out as originally, the reason:
What ideology is that? Are you out of your mind that Satoshi Nakamoto wrote about bitcoin? Bitcoin cash is just a fork coin, are you a comedian?
Decentralized development teams
Oh the irony, do you really know what's the meaning of decentralization? Ask the leader of the troll army who turned away himself from being one of the first bitcoin start up investor.

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Bch = thanks for the free money.   Sold up at $3400.

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February 08, 2018, 09:40:33 AM
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They have a vision that involves specialized mining hardware running people with enough data storage and upgrade capabilities to maintain a full node that would result from an increased block size. They see users as running the SPV wallet while miners maintain the network as well as full node.

The real/ original Bitcoin (call it Bitcoin core if you like) vision is to always keep it possible for anybody willing to give the time to be able to run a full node with hardware investment not being an entry barrier.
Seriously? Have you ever read all the stuff Satoshi actually said? Go read the whitepaper and all his emails. What you'll find is that "bitcoin" as it is today and the direction core is taking it, is not what he envisioned. He envisioned exactly what bitcoin cash is. One can argue that what core is doing is the right path and that Satoshi designed a flawed product that they need to "fix". But he said miners would run full nodes and users SPV wallets. He said when they needed bigger blocks they'd just do a fork to increase the size. So please don't imply what core has done with bitcoin is the original Satoshi design/vision.

For the record, I think both coins are fundamentally flawed and will never be able to achieve what people really want, which, IMO, is to have a completely decentralized currency with which to buy a cup of coffee without having to pay some ridiculous fee.

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February 08, 2018, 09:47:25 AM
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I think bitcoin cash is an alternative of bitcoin that's why bitcoin cash made so that when bitcoin is dropping like today there is still an alternative coin that can have to invest because some investors will go bitcoin cash just like you. Bitcoin is still the leading and number 1, bitcoin will always be an alternative and bitcoin will still the 1st and the leading.
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I believe bitcoincash (BCH) over Bitcoin (Bitcoin core),
we have no coin which is called "bitcoin core". there is bitcoin cash and bitcoin.

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bitcoincash is the original that satoshi nakamoto wrote out as originally, the reason:
when you compare two things, you omit the things they share specially when you are saying one is better than the other because of ....
i don't know if you are just trying to make your list longer or just wasn't thinking but half your list is shared between two. in fact the only thing that you can claim is not shared is the fees. now lets get down to it.

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Bitcoincash is full of: "Low cosh transaction fees,
only because nobody is using it. it shares this attribute with at least 1500 altcoins with empty blocks which contain less than 20 tx. when you have blocks that are only 2-3% full (200-300 kB) you get low "cost" transactions.

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Fast peer to peer transactions,
that is the attribute of any peer to peer network! you are sending a transaction which is practically some data on average 250 bytes with some overhead which won't even reach 1 kB which you will send/receive in an instant!

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Reliable transactions,
i don't know what you have in mind when you say "reliable". care to elaborate?

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Accept 0 confirmation transations,
that has never been a good idea. double spending a transaction with 0 confirmation is not as hard as you think. and from day 1 of bitcoin's existence i don't think anybody ever suggested 0 confirmation is safe and you started this topic with the words "Satoshi's vision"!

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Decentralized development teams,
it is more centralized than you think.
research about how the fork for difficulty adjustment was performed....

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Permissionless network and development,
you already said the development and the network is permissionless now but it won't last long if blocks start to become 8 MB and then they fork to 32 MB and running a full node becomes harder and harder and eventually impossible for regular people and you end up with centralized hubs which are the only option for you to connect to.

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Open source code,
as if the rest of 1700 altcoins are closed source?

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Limited supply (21 million coins), Proof of Work algorithm (SHA-256), Dates back to the Genesis block, Digital currency
well BCH forked from bitcoin's source code and shares all the consensus rules up to the date of the fork (~1 August) and nothing has changed in these consensus rules. as i said above these are not reasons for preferring it over bitcoin.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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February 08, 2018, 09:54:36 AM
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Everybody can choose all they want but the truth still remains that the most popular one will always prevail in the end. I too believe that bitcoin cash follows what satoshi has intended for bitcoin to be but it is still early for it to beat BTC.

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February 08, 2018, 09:59:52 AM
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Now tell us why you chose bitcointalk.

Why do I choose bitcointalk ?, I have marketed more since the beginning of 2017, and there is no such information from the forums ??, because the bitcoin is too new, and thanks bitcointalk I have learned all the information from The use of bitcoin for high profits, as well as for mining, ICo, etc., all I needed was on bitcointalk, the biggest bitcoin information community, so I'm so thankful bitcointalk gave me lots of info. As such, Bitcoin is the world's first community for bitcoin users, so I hope bitcointalk will grow stronger and become the best bitcoin portal in the world!

see how the word "bitcoin" is present in your post, it just shows that bitcoin is very important

about your preference no one can judge you, you are free to choose any coin, but do not make comparisons between bitcoin vs bitcoin cash because this type of discussion do not have a good ending and nothing productive.

bitcoin cash is an altcoin and this is not going to change.

Bch = thanks for the free money.   Sold up at $3400.

I also sold everything and bought more bitcoins

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February 08, 2018, 10:16:42 AM
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I think this is an interesting idea.
bitcoin cash is just a fork of the bitcoin, you can create a  fork, can create a new better than bitcoin cash fork, so why do we need to value the bitcoin cash?

I remember reading a report a few days ago that claims that bitcoincash is the original and the current bitcoin is the fork.
BCash was just one of the many breaks from original. It just changed a basic parameter, that is the maximum block size. It was a hard-fork from the original chain as none of the nodes running the original bitcoin client (maintained in the original bitcoin repository) would support it.

They have a vision that involves specialized mining hardware running people with enough data storage and upgrade capabilities to maintain a full node that would result from an increased block size. They see users as running the SPV wallet while miners maintain the network as well as full node.

The real/ original Bitcoin (call it Bitcoin core if you like) vision is to always keep it possible for anybody willing to give the time to be able to run a full node with hardware investment not being an entry barrier.

Why is a full node important? Well, A full node is what validates the chain and transactions. It follows the consensus rules agreed by community of merchants and users running full nodes. If only miners/ businesses run full nodes, there is nothing stopping them from changing the rules to their own advantage.

These "reports" that you read are the same people that want you to believe what they tell you to. Go beyond the media/ marketing and judge for yourself.
 

Here the report
https://cointelegraph.com/news/fork-fail-us-government-claims-bitcoin-cash-is-original-bitcoin

There’s even a white paper on the subject.

So now you want to believe a report from the "Government" because, of course, they would never do anything to undermine something that threatens their existing financial structure.
If there is one entity that doesn't want Bitcoin/BTC to move ahead is the government. Supporting something like Bcash is a very easy way to do that.

So what argument do they give to prove that Bitcoin core client that does not support BCash is not the product of the original repository anymore.

You want to believe an article and a government report, fine. But at least think who benefits from it. Maybe then you can see the motivation someone would have to call BCash as the original coin. The Altcoin that only has a small minority of original supporters and which will be much more pliant to them than a rebellious majority that maintains the original BTC/ Bitcoin repository.

They give the argument about SegWit in the article. SegWit is a consensus driven soft-fork that is supported by the core client. The blocksize increase in BCash makes it invalid on all BTC nodes and that why its BCash which is a fork. I can see why the newcomers would lean more toward supporting Bcash. Lower price, Chance of growth, Payouts in tippr bots for praising and a generally more newbie driven community because they want a bigger army of small soldiers on the ground.

Such report only make it clear the conceited belligerence of banks and governments towards BTC. BTC takes away the status quo from them. That is what they fear and that is what marketers like Roger Ver weaken with their confusing shilling about being the real bitcoin. If you want to be their lower guard, you are welcome.

I'd suggest, keep your BCash all you want,. Trade it, Spend it, but don't direct unnecessary FUD towards bitcoin because that way the actual winner is going to be someone else.

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