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February 09, 2018, 05:53:11 PM
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You wrote such a big post about such obvious thing, I am just surprised how you could find so many words for explainment of the most simple way: find a topic, reply it if you know the point. That's all!
I count my own comments just like you have said, but why I still not get a Merit then? Grin I think other users feel the same about their posts. So, your strategy doesn't work in many cases.
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February 10, 2018, 06:28:42 AM
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Should there actually be the guide to earning merit? I mean, it's not like something collectible or requires a special approach to get it.

Just try to write quality posts and don't pay attention to it, otherwise you'll overcomplicate your post because you're focusing on earning merit.
Yeah, I dont think the diagram is necessary for the forum. As I discussed somewhere in the forum. After merit system released, there is a new hot trend, which using inforgraphics to earn merits from complaisant users. I have checked some inforgraphics, some of them only put words from Theymos announcement into those inforgraphics. It's waste of time. There is no denying that authors had put some efforts to make them. However, I would like to emphasize that this is likely a trend, and users in the forum think that making inforgraphics will help them to get merits.

Turning back to the diagram, I don't think it is necessary. The OP of the topic should be write briefly, it looks long-widened. We should describle ideas succinctly.

Anyway, thanks for your diagram, Thirio.

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February 10, 2018, 08:42:37 AM
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Should there actually be the guide to earning merit? I mean, it's not like something collectible or requires a special approach to get it.

Just try to write quality posts and don't pay attention to it, otherwise you'll overcomplicate your post because you're focusing on earning merit.
Yeah, I dont think the diagram is necessary for the forum. As I discussed somewhere in the forum. After merit system released, there is a new hot trend, which using inforgraphics to earn merits from complaisant users. I have checked some inforgraphics, some of them only put words from Theymos announcement into those inforgraphics. It's waste of time. There is no denying that authors had put some efforts to make them. However, I would like to emphasize that this is likely a trend, and users in the forum think that making inforgraphics will help them to get merits.

Turning back to the diagram, I don't think it is necessary. The OP of the topic should be write briefly, it looks long-widened. We should describle ideas succinctly.

Anyway, thanks for your diagram, Thirio.
Making infographics is not a waste of time since it helps others, making redundant infographics is. A flow chart with these three does not have the same ideas as the infographics posted after the release of the merit system. I wanted to try making one because i'm still lacking, i want to improve my ways. I think there's nothing wrong with trying (same goes for other members especially newbies who're trying to make infographs to help), if it will result to some merits then it means i have done something nice and i gotta keep on doing those kind of stuff. If not, then something's lacking or maybe it just wasn't what other people are seeking. Doesn't matter, at least i tried.

Will be saying this the third time, it's all in my mind. Ideas, words flow as i speak and i'm just continuously writing as i think. Also, Thank you for pointing that out, now i really think writing excessively would be one of the things that i need to change.

PS: I did not made the diagram, i only gave my idea. Credits to topkhai.

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February 11, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
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I am wondering why you have a lot of words and I think you make it more complicated but the true intention of yours is to know how we can earn merit using a good post. In my opinion,  making a long long post is not necessary.  Make it short and concise because youre wasting the time of your reader with the obvious answer.

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February 11, 2018, 11:14:32 AM
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Having an effort for typing those common ideas makes the post so complicated and there are so many topics that is also the same with this. You know that this system is new to us and some of here in meta already posted about this. I easily get tired when i seeing posts about "earning merits", you don't need a guide in earning merits, a simple post which is direct to the point is all that matters. Your post is too much, you can explain it in 2-3 sentences.  Also, the quality of your post is important. You look like you are just aiming for merits in posting this thread. The only thing i can think of is you need to fit to the standards of members of this forum so that you can earn all your dreamy merits.

PS. you should've posted on local instead, helping your fellow citizens that is new in our community is good.
Another thing is, you've replied in my thread in local and stated that "if you can say something in a shorter way as everyone understands, why not?". Then, we should apply it here.


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February 11, 2018, 11:55:14 AM
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OP you should add step number 4 and skip steps number 1,2 and 3:

"Based on my own experience you will earn most merits in meta. So be regular poster in meta and you will earn merit"

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February 11, 2018, 12:49:23 PM
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OP you should add step number 4 and skip steps number 1,2 and 3:

"Based on my own experience you will earn most merits in meta. So be regular poster in meta and you will earn merit"

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Direct hit! anyway the OP seems very active at Meta I think because the merit is more regulated here at Meta Section than to other section like btc & altcoin discussion, and one more thing his activity almost reach to 120 so technically he needs 100 merits to be able to rank.

to OP: ill give you plus 1 so that you only need 70 more merits to become fullmember just dont do shit post.

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February 11, 2018, 01:04:07 PM
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I am wondering why you have a lot of words and I think you make it more complicated but the true intention of yours is to know how we can earn merit using a good post. In my opinion,  making a long long post is not necessary.  Make it short and concise because you're wasting the time of your reader with the obvious answer.
Thank you for pointing that out for the fourth time, i'll be trying to make my posts shorter next time. It's not necessary but can't i make long posts? is supporting the statement prohibited now? plus i stated that the post is really common-sense and highlighted the obvious answers for those people who don't like reading long posts.

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February 11, 2018, 01:46:38 PM
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Having an effort for typing those common ideas makes the post so complicated and there are so many topics that is also the same with this. You know that this system is new to us and some of here in meta already posted about this. I easily get tired when i seeing posts about "earning merits", you don't need a guide in earning merits, a simple post which is direct to the point is all that matters. Your post is too much, you can explain it in 2-3 sentences.  Also, the quality of your post is important. You look like you are just aiming for merits in posting this thread. The only thing i can think of is you need to fit to the standards of members of this forum so that you can earn all your dreamy merits.

PS. you should've posted on local instead, helping your fellow citizens that is new in our community is good.
Another thing is, you've replied in my thread in local and stated that "if you can say something in a shorter way as everyone understands, why not?". Then, we should apply it here.
For the nth time. Thank you for pointing that out and don't worry i'll shorten my posts here on out.

Is thinking that i am doing this to fit to the standard of members negative or not? cause if it's negative, why? why do fitting to the standards of the members in this forum wrong? if not, then i'll disregard the "you can earn all your dreamy merits" since it feels like you're mocking me.

I also posted on my local board in hopes of helping others as well. Also, that reply was almost two weeks ago (january 30), replying like this feels like you're waiting to get back on me. I can sense the hatred in this post, or is it just in you idk.

PS:  I never got to answer your reply, so to clarify things up: I have read the title? yes. Do you think one line posts can receive merits? Definitely yes, why not? I said "Not all one liner posts are shit posts" that doesn't mean that i was inferring that your statement means one liners = shit post so chill. Also, one liners can be quite unique in some ways, again i'm not saying that one liners = Unique and i'm also not saying one liners = shit/common/spam posts whatever you want to call it. Stop concluding things so easily and try to open up your mind a little. Lastly, "You also need to fulfill the standards of every member in this forum and this will not fit one liner posts." i don't really know all the standards of every member in this forum, enlighten me. Does this "standard" includes not reading previous comments?

PSS: I'm rooting for the both of you. Godbless.

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February 11, 2018, 01:54:44 PM
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OP you should add step number 4 and skip steps number 1,2 and 3:

"Based on my own experience you will earn most merits in meta. So be regular poster in meta and you will earn merit"

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Is there something wrong with that? I post on bitcoin discussion and other sections of this forum occasionally since almost all of the threads there are getting tons of answer every minute and apparently, if i read all the replies in those threads, there's a high chance of my answer being redundant. If spams would be controlled there and merits would be regulated throughout the forum then i would love to join their discussion. But for now i'll be a regular here btw, thanks for welcoming me couple a weeks ago it made me think that being a regular here is not really that bad comparing to other sections.  Wink

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February 11, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
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OP you should add step number 4 and skip steps number 1,2 and 3:

"Based on my own experience you will earn most merits in meta. So be regular poster in meta and you will earn merit"

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Direct hit! anyway the OP seems very active at Meta I think because the merit is more regulated here at Meta Section than to other section like btc & altcoin discussion, and one more thing his activity almost reach to 120 so technically he needs 100 merits to be able to rank.

to OP: ill give you plus 1 so that you only need 70 more merits to become fullmember just dont do shit post.
Thanks for the merit,i'll be paying it forward and i won't do shit post.

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February 11, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
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Is there something wrong with that?
Why do you think there is something wrong with adding that line as step 4? You can add it as sarcastic step  Grin
I post on bitcoin discussion and other sections of this forum occasionally since almost all of the threads there are getting tons of answer every minute and apparently, if i read all the replies in those threads, there's a high chance of my answer being redundant. If spams would be controlled there and merits would be regulated throughout the forum then i would love to join their discussion. But for now i'll be a regular here btw, thanks for welcoming me couple a weeks ago it made me think that being a regular here is not really that bad comparing to other sections.  Wink
Isn't this contradiction to your topic?
I mean, more or less you said "be constructive and you will get merit" but "I refuse to post in other sections because this one will bring me merit".  Undecided


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February 11, 2018, 04:34:18 PM
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Is there something wrong with that?
Why do you think there is something wrong with adding that line as step 4? You can add it as sarcastic step  Grin
I post on bitcoin discussion and other sections of this forum occasionally since almost all of the threads there are getting tons of answer every minute and apparently, if i read all the replies in those threads, there's a high chance of my answer being redundant. If spams would be controlled there and merits would be regulated throughout the forum then i would love to join their discussion. But for now i'll be a regular here btw, thanks for welcoming me couple a weeks ago it made me think that being a regular here is not really that bad comparing to other sections.  Wink
Isn't this contradiction to your topic?
I mean, more or less you said "be constructive and you will get merit" but "I refuse to post in other sections because this one will bring me merit".  Undecided


hmmm i did not think that through, i was carried away by the hype of everyone saying i should shorten my post. Although you can earn merits through being constructive, there are certain things that would be the variable in gaining one. For now, just like you said "Based on my own experience you will earn most merits in meta. So be regular poster in meta and you will earn merit" the regulation of merits in the forum's section isn't exactly equal and the other, i think, is proficiency in language (English only sections + Local boards = more place to gain merits). Also, we could add a sarcastic step if you want!  Grin

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February 11, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
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This is what I usually consider when posting and replying to threads, three easy and simple things to consider when posting. This may be common-sense but I hope this helps.

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1. Pick a topic.
2. Know the topic.
3. Answer the topic.
I agree with your opinion. that's very clear, thank you!
I'm trying to help you create a flowchart diagram "Guide to earning merits", to save time!
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Merit system isn't fair and this post proves that, look this guy even draw a picture isn't that an effort that should be rewarded?
I will give you merit for this cause I have smerits to give, but I don't think that I'm competent to judge about poat quality, I think I can just notice who made some effort.
1.There are many topic's for picking, so many similar ones. It's hard to be unique ans original when almost everything is been said already.
2. Knowing and answering the topic doesn't worth much if your comment pass unnoticed, and that happens many times to me and to others I think.

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February 11, 2018, 05:49:18 PM
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1.There are many topic's for picking, so many similar ones. It's hard to be unique ans original when almost everything is been said already.

Stay out of 'spam megathreads'. You are purposely picking threads where everything has already been said, to I assume easily make a post by rewording.

2. Knowing and answering the topic doesn't worth much if your comment pass unnoticed, and that happens many times to me and to others I think.

You should be consistently posting high quality posts. It may go unnoticed sometimes, but never 100% of the time. I checked the merit stats of the ChipMixer campaign participants, and found that most of them had earned a decent number of merits in the short time period when merits existed:

Because it's fun playing with data, I decided to see the stats of Merit for users in the campaign.
Some interesting facts:
- Average participant has earned 28.7 merit
- Median as 23 merit
- The total amount of earned merit is 1666 merit (at the time of this post - merit counts for most users should automatically update) LoyceV's vanity kinda applies here
- Members in the campaign have received 2.7% of all merit given on the forum  Shocked (1666/61278)
- 44 members have reached 10 or more merit earned
- Range: 0 to 138

Just thought it was interesting, not doing anything else with it yet.

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February 12, 2018, 01:21:22 AM
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Having an effort for typing those common ideas makes the post so complicated and there are so many topics that is also the same with this. You know that this system is new to us and some of here in meta already posted about this. I easily get tired when i seeing posts about "earning merits", you don't need a guide in earning merits, a simple post which is direct to the point is all that matters. Your post is too much, you can explain it in 2-3 sentences.  Also, the quality of your post is important. You look like you are just aiming for merits in posting this thread. The only thing i can think of is you need to fit to the standards of members of this forum so that you can earn all your dreamy merits.

PS. you should've posted on local instead, helping your fellow citizens that is new in our community is good.
Another thing is, you've replied in my thread in local and stated that "if you can say something in a shorter way as everyone understands, why not?". Then, we should apply it here.
For the nth time. Thank you for pointing that out and don't worry i'll shorten my posts here on out.

Is thinking that i am doing this to fit to the standard of members negative or not? cause if it's negative, why? why do fitting to the standards of the members in this forum wrong? if not, then i'll disregard the "you can earn all your dreamy merits" since it feels like you're mocking me.

I also posted on my local board in hopes of helping others as well. Also, that reply was almost two weeks ago (january 30), replying like this feels like you're waiting to get back on me. I can sense the hatred in this post, or is it just in you idk.

PS:  I never got to answer your reply, so to clarify things up: I have read the title? yes. Do you think one line posts can receive merits? Definitely yes, why not? I said "Not all one liner posts are shit posts" that doesn't mean that i was inferring that your statement means one liners = shit post so chill. Also, one liners can be quite unique in some ways, again i'm not saying that one liners = Unique and i'm also not saying one liners = shit/common/spam posts whatever you want to call it. Stop concluding things so easily and try to open up your mind a little. Lastly, "You also need to fulfill the standards of every member in this forum and this will not fit one liner posts." i don't really know all the standards of every member in this forum, enlighten me. Does this "standard" includes not reading previous comments?

PSS: I'm rooting for the both of you. Godbless.


Yes 'cause the topic is all about merits, your statement can be included as off topic since one liner as shit posts are not my point. I just want to avoid this kind of posting. No hatred at all my friend, I just want to clarify things and help you to improve this. The dreamy merits that i've  mentioned to you is also i wanted. I said it to you because the intention of this post is very obvious. Just make clear things up, dont make complicated post that's all. Godbless also, cheer up!
Ps: No hard feelings to this, the personality of individuals here in forum is different.
PSS: i'll merit you since you've answered my questions and effort for creating this topic. Goodluck


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February 12, 2018, 08:39:27 AM
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Having an effort for typing those common ideas makes the post so complicated and there are so many topics that is also the same with this. You know that this system is new to us and some of here in meta already posted about this. I easily get tired when i seeing posts about "earning merits", you don't need a guide in earning merits, a simple post which is direct to the point is all that matters. Your post is too much, you can explain it in 2-3 sentences.  Also, the quality of your post is important. You look like you are just aiming for merits in posting this thread. The only thing i can think of is you need to fit to the standards of members of this forum so that you can earn all your dreamy merits.

PS. you should've posted on local instead, helping your fellow citizens that is new in our community is good.
Another thing is, you've replied in my thread in local and stated that "if you can say something in a shorter way as everyone understands, why not?". Then, we should apply it here.
For the nth time. Thank you for pointing that out and don't worry i'll shorten my posts here on out.

Is thinking that i am doing this to fit to the standard of members negative or not? cause if it's negative, why? why do fitting to the standards of the members in this forum wrong? if not, then i'll disregard the "you can earn all your dreamy merits" since it feels like you're mocking me.

I also posted on my local board in hopes of helping others as well. Also, that reply was almost two weeks ago (january 30), replying like this feels like you're waiting to get back on me. I can sense the hatred in this post, or is it just in you idk.

PS:  I never got to answer your reply, so to clarify things up: I have read the title? yes. Do you think one line posts can receive merits? Definitely yes, why not? I said "Not all one liner posts are shit posts" that doesn't mean that i was inferring that your statement means one liners = shit post so chill. Also, one liners can be quite unique in some ways, again i'm not saying that one liners = Unique and i'm also not saying one liners = shit/common/spam posts whatever you want to call it. Stop concluding things so easily and try to open up your mind a little. Lastly, "You also need to fulfill the standards of every member in this forum and this will not fit one liner posts." i don't really know all the standards of every member in this forum, enlighten me. Does this "standard" includes not reading previous comments?

PSS: I'm rooting for the both of you. Godbless.


Yes 'cause the topic is all about merits, your statement can be included as off topic since one liner as shit posts are not my point. I just want to avoid this kind of posting. No hatred at all my friend, I just want to clarify things and help you to improve this. The dreamy merits that i've  mentioned to you is also i wanted. I said it to you because the intention of this post is very obvious. Just make clear things up, dont make complicated post that's all. Godbless also, cheer up!
Ps: No hard feelings to this, the personality of individuals here in forum is different.
PSS: i'll merit you since you've answered my questions and effort for creating this topic. Goodluck
Glas to hear those kind words. No hard feelings. And i'll try not to complicate things a little. Although i would like to disagree that my reply was off topic since merits and posts are somewhat related. In line with that, i've made that reply to support your post and just noted that not all short posts are shit posts(because people often generalize short posts).

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September 10, 2018, 10:29:28 AM
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Wow, so many posts that breach the basics of making good meritable posts.

That diagram is not much use, and is quite annoying, as it slows down reading. Quoting it several times shows what a bad idea it was to include it in a thread. If I had been in a merit awarding mode, I would have left the thread fairly early on, as the bad quoting habits are such a waste of time for readers. It would have been even worse if I had been using a mobile.
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September 10, 2018, 11:33:28 AM
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For OP, if you really care about that flowchart diagram made by topkhai then I guess you should added it to the first post. Looking by some members said that you make a long post, then the flowchart diagram can be an answer to it. I too agree that your post is too long while it is constructive and the diagram can help some people who doesnt love to read a long post.


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September 10, 2018, 12:27:51 PM
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For OP, if you really care about that flowchart diagram made by topkhai then I guess you should added it to the first post. Looking by some members said that you make a long post, then the flowchart diagram can be an answer to it. I too agree that your post is too long while it is constructive and the diagram can help some people who doesnt love to read a long post.

No need for your concerns mate... I think the OP is not this anymore and maybe he's not here anymore and this was made several months ago.

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