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February 09, 2018, 07:07:03 AM
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I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information

I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online

I'll start  Smiley

Live roulette scam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc

One is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card

Blackjack scam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc

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February 09, 2018, 07:37:44 AM
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I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information

I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online

I'll start  Smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI

Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g

I had watch that last link and saw how the staff incharged of the game skipped the card.  and this one,

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we can see how the rolling ball jumped and shakes.. and here is the explanation how they cheat with that kind of stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bc1ypNsrU  and it seems that they have some kind of disruptor in there to make the ball shakes and fall to other part of the roullete.

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February 09, 2018, 08:32:28 AM
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One of my friends who was an employee at a leading card games website told me that they have own employees playing the games with normal members. Those employees are able to see all cards and they win most of the games (especially those with higher prize money). I checked the website and it was one of the most popular card games website in India. I am still not sure if that friend was right or not.

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February 09, 2018, 08:43:18 AM
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That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.
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February 09, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
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That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

You do know there are things like fixed games?  Cheesy

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February 09, 2018, 02:44:18 PM
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I'm usually very picky with the casinos I choose to play, and I normally only use the mainstream ones. The reason I do that, is because I believe that a lot of eyes are turn to them, even from the competition. So if something fishy would happen there it would probably be revealed. I do believe that once a casino hits a large and regular player base, they probably wont cheat, because they are already expected to win in the long run.

Of course that with small and new casinos, you can never be sure, because in the short term they might even lose money, and if customers wont play long enough, they will probably end up losing. I guess that there are really good chances that those casinos will cheat.

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February 10, 2018, 12:44:06 PM
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I'm usually very picky with the casinos I choose to play, and I normally only use the mainstream ones. The reason I do that, is because I believe that a lot of eyes are turn to them, even from the competition. So if something fishy would happen there it would probably be revealed. I do believe that once a casino hits a large and regular player base, they probably wont cheat, because they are already expected to win in the long run.

Of course that with small and new casinos, you can never be sure, because in the short term they might even lose money, and if customers wont play long enough, they will probably end up losing. I guess that there are really good chances that those casinos will cheat.
I do not think that there may be a single casino who do not cheat people. In fact they cannot maintain to continue running casino if they are got getting the edge. But it is depending on the status of casino, Some casino who have good names and having more good in their business they may be getting a reasonable edge, when the rest i think they will get more so as to overcome the expenses of running a casino.
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February 10, 2018, 12:55:08 PM
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That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

You do know there are things like fixed games?  Cheesy
Yes, but the chances for you to get cheated by a gambling game in an online casino is much higher then the chances for you to get cheated at a real casino.
At an online casino,if you are not playing at a provably fair system you can't really know what is going on behind the code, and the site itself could be faking results,while at a real casino you can see the dice rolling(if that's a known casino, there's no chances that someone rigged your dice).
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February 10, 2018, 01:21:00 PM
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That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

You do know there are things like fixed games?  Cheesy
Yes, but the chances for you to get cheated by a gambling game in an online casino is much higher then the chances for you to get cheated at a real casino.
At an online casino,if you are not playing at a provably fair system you can't really know what is going on behind the code, and the site itself could be faking results,while at a real casino you can see the dice rolling(if that's a known casino, there's no chances that someone rigged your dice).

There are lots of online gambling games. . honestly we don't know if they are giving provably fair to their players.
But the only thing that i know what game is really provably fair is sports betting unlike dice game that honestly i don't really know how this game really works it is not the same as the real dice game that you can see real rolling dice. Or a game poker online compare to real poker game.. If you are not techy guy or programmer you will never know how those games works in online compare to real casino games So there are high possibility that we can be cheated online.. But it doesn't mean that all gambling games online everything cheated but the only game that i know are provably fair game is sports betting because they can't change sports play because its still real but you can watch the game online. .

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February 10, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
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One of my friends who was an employee at a leading card games website told me that they have own employees playing the games with normal members. Those employees are able to see all cards and they win most of the games (especially those with higher prize money). I checked the website and it was one of the most popular card games website in India. I am still not sure if that friend was right or not.

LOL, investing on casino would very risky option I knew it but after hearing this information it is nightmare for every online casino players. I did not do that as of now and not in future too. Instead of this you can go to betting site to make the more money than other gambling like casino or slot roll.
Even this would be the concern why billcoin above worry about investing on online casinos would also have mind thought like me.
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February 10, 2018, 01:32:00 PM
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I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information

I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online

I'll start  Smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI

Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
There are many gamblers try to cheat but I think this is very hard way and very hard to do, there are only some that can do this. Like what youve share  I think that is not totally expert.
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February 10, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
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That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

You do know there are things like fixed games?  Cheesy
Yes, but the chances for you to get cheated by a gambling game in an online casino is much higher then the chances for you to get cheated at a real casino.
At an online casino,if you are not playing at a provably fair system you can't really know what is going on behind the code, and the site itself could be faking results,while at a real casino you can see the dice rolling(if that's a known casino, there's no chances that someone rigged your dice).



Thinking it's fair can get you to bet a lot more and getting screwed over for a lot more money.
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You do know there are things like fixed games?  Cheesy

Those fixed games no way ordinary people can find out so I never bet on any of the games more than I can afford to lose.

Gambling is used it only for fun purpose because of all these issues and doesn't want to bet huge money even though I'm very sure about the winning team. But I'm still in a profit side from my cricket betting and I know in cricket also a lot of matches are fixed.
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You do know there are things like fixed games?  Cheesy

Those fixed games no way ordinary people can find out so I never bet on any of the games more than I can afford to lose.

Gambling is used it only for fun purpose because of all these issues and doesn't want to bet huge money even though I'm very sure about the winning team. But I'm still in a profit side from my cricket betting and I know in cricket also a lot of matches are fixed.
That's how good the mafia inside sports betting, they control the scenario without any trace, even the we think that the teams or players that we choose is really greater than their opponents, they loses all the way as how mafia /fixed gamer influenced them, but on the other hand regarding to this cheat, inside sports betting you can monitor and you have still chance to win if you are lucky betting with a normal game without the interfere of fixed gamer.
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February 11, 2018, 05:27:00 AM
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Let me remind you the site you are promoting in your signature is also a casino and they have had a shady past of paying users back when they make profit. I always knew not to trust casinos at all either play a gamble with less house edge like dice or don't gamble only
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February 11, 2018, 07:54:24 AM
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One of my friends who was an employee at a leading card games website told me that they have own employees playing the games with normal members. Those employees are able to see all cards and they win most of the games (especially those with higher prize money). I checked the website and it was one of the most popular card games website in India. I am still not sure if that friend was right or not.
youve mentioned to be YOUR FRIEND and now saying that you are NOT SURE IF RIGHT OR NOT..very contradicting,and before you put post in this thread make sure you have an proof about than accusations..OP and others has their own Links to prove that what they are saying is true.though i have heard lots of complaints regarding this CHEAT ON GAMBLING
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February 11, 2018, 09:10:48 AM
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One of my friends who was an employee at a leading card games website told me that they have own employees playing the games with normal members. Those employees are able to see all cards and they win most of the games (especially those with higher prize money). I checked the website and it was one of the most popular card games website in India. I am still not sure if that friend was right or not.

I am sure that casinos do cheat.  If they are too honest, they might lose big amounts. For this reason, they deploy such techniques and tricks to fool the players and normally the players does not even know what happen at the backed. He most of the time thinks that it is just his bad luck but indeed there is a whole plan to get money from him and make him lose.

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February 11, 2018, 03:51:01 PM
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Those are some convincing videos especially the roulette table one. Cause I have seen the casino croupiers changing the balls every so often and those fob like things that are used to control the balls are easily hidden in a pocket or from across the casino floor by a casino pit boss in their pockets.
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February 11, 2018, 05:27:46 PM
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Some casino may seems to be genuine but their conducts may make them appear cheaters to their users. Because every users will always want a casino to run in a particular way to suit their peculiar interest. Moreover, there is no casino who are 100% pure, they manipulate things to make gains, to me this casinos are genuine. But some of them are greedy to the extend of scamming their users completely.
Casinos are built to make the owners rich and not the gamblers and they will do anything in their power to make that possible, They cheat a lot and i am certain most of the games there with the exception of dice which i believe is based on pure luck is sabotaged.

 
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February 13, 2018, 12:21:07 PM
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Some casino may seems to be genuine but their conducts may make them appear cheaters to their users. Because every users will always want a casino to run in a particular way to suit their peculiar interest. Moreover, there is no casino who are 100% pure, they manipulate things to make gains, to me this casinos are genuine. But some of them are greedy to the extend of scamming their users completely.
Casinos are built to make the owners rich and not the gamblers and they will do anything in their power to make that possible, They cheat a lot and i am certain most of the games there with the exception of dice which i believe is based on pure luck is sabotaged.

I think it really depends on the venue in question. If there's a casino at a location without regulations and regular check-ups, it's possible that the games could be rigged.
But in decent casino's, the 'rigging' is just done by math, they have a positive house edge on the games and automatically make money over the long term.

Online provably fair casinos are a different story, they are 100% fair if they've implemented a correct provably fair system.
There are many casinos that also have other games than dice that are provably fair.

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