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December 11, 2013, 11:38:22 PM |
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se e' vero diventiamo ancora piu' milionari di quel che gia' siamo  |
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IMHO non è una buona notizia per chi non voglia soltanto speculare. L'immissione massiccia di capitali innalzerebbe il prezzo, creando una potenziale bolla ancora più grande di quella (scoppiata?) odierna. Tuttavia solo una massiccia diffusione in ambito commerciale, a livello di dettaglio, farebbe compiere alla valuta l'auspicato salto di qualità. Ad oggi chi entra in bitcoin lo fa solo per speculare, o almeno è questa l'impressione che ho da profano. E ciò esaspera la volatilità: il "noob" non può accettare che ciò che mette nel portafoglio oggi, valga la metà domani. Non capendo un tubo di finanza correggetemi pure se ho detto cose inesatte  |
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December 15, 2013, 12:24:47 PM |
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Vi segnalo questo servizio che permette più facilmente l'inserimento di dati dentro la mappa dei servizi Bitcoin  http://cointerest.org/map |
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December 16, 2013, 01:05:21 PM |
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Vi segnalo questo servizio che permette più facilmente l'inserimento di dati dentro la mappa dei servizi Bitcoin http://cointerest.org/mapMmm, molto meglio questo: http://su.openstreetmap.it/Ciao! |
“…virtual currencies, could have a substitution effect on central bank money if they become widely accepted.”
ECB Report, October 2012
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December 16, 2013, 02:43:59 PM |
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dal sito di BTC China https://vip.btcchina.com/about/index/page/feeDear BTC China valued customer: To stabilize the recent turbulent Bitcoin market and minimize potential market manipulation, BTC China will end the 0% trading fee promotion, effective immediately, and revert to the 0.3% trading fee. We deeply apologize for the sudden change. BTC China, December 16, 2013
In response to a recent policy shift, BTC China now requires users to submit identification or passport number. Existing users will need to provide this information upon login. We apologize for any inconvenience. Please contact our QQ support if you have any problems. |
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December 16, 2013, 03:03:42 PM |
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grande la Heineken!  |
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palatine
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December 18, 2013, 08:48:04 AM |
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Dal sito di BTC China:
“Dear BTC China valued customer: Due to new government regulations, BTC China will temporarily suspend CNY deposits. BTC deposits/withdrawals and CNY withdrawals are not affected, and will continue to operate in the interim. Rest assure that BTC China will continue to operate normally. Please pay attention to our notices for updates, as we find other ways to allow for CNY deposits. We deeply apologize for any inconvenience. BTC China, December 18, 2013″
I cinesi escono in massa e il prezzo crolla.
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December 18, 2013, 08:51:24 AM |
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Sempre dal sito di BTC, traduzione in inglese della dichiarazione delle autorità cinesi.
The People’s Bank of China and Five Associated Ministries Notice: “Prevention of Risks Associated with Bitcoin”
To safeguard the interests and property rights of the public, to protect the legal standing of the Renminbi, to precaution against the risk of money laundering and maintain financial stability, the People’s Bank of China, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, the China Banking Regulatory Commission, the China Securities Regulatory Commission and the China Insurance Regulatory Commission have jointly issued “People’s Bank of China, Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of China, China Securities Regulatory Commission, China Banking Regulatory Commission and the China Insurance Regulatory Commission Notice on the Prevention of Risks Associated with Bitcoin” (Bank Notice [2013] No. 289, hereinafter referred to as “Notice”).
[Notice] Clearly defining the nature of Bitcoin, which is not issued by a central monetary authority, it does not possess characteristics of legal tender, and does not have real meaning as a currency. On the nature of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is a specially-designated virtual commodity or good, and does not have the same legal status as currency, and cannot be used as circulating currency in the market. However, Bitcoin trading constitutes a method of buying and selling commodities online, and ordinary people are free to participate, so long as they are willing to assume the risk.
[Notice] It is required that, at this stage, financial and payment institutions may not use Bitcoin pricing for products or services, may not buy or sell Bitcoins, may not act as a central counterparty in Bitcoin trading, may not offer insurance products associated with Bitcoin, may not provide direct or indirect Bitcoin-related services to customers, including: registering, trading, settling, clearing or other services; accepting Bitcoin or use of Bitcoin as a clearing tool; trading Bitcoin with CNY or foreign currencies; storing, escrowing, and mortgaging in Bitcoin; issuing Bitcoin-related financial products; and using Bitcoin as a means of investment for trusts and funds.
[Notice] It is required that, websites serving primarily as Bitcoin trading platforms, must, according to the Telecommunications Regulations of the People’s Republic of China and the Internet Information Services Managing Guidelines, legally register with the Telecommunications Bureau. Meanwhile, Bitcoin has a comparatively high risk of use for money laundering or by criminal actors; this Notice requires that all relevant institutions comply with relevant authorities and with the People’s Republic of China Anti-Money Laundering Law, and fulfill requirements related to customer identification, submit “suspicious transaction” reports and fulfill other statutory anti-money laundering obligations, preventing the risk of money laundering associated with Bitcoin.
In order to prevent the use of Bitcoin and other “virtual currencies” for use in excessive speculation, posing a risk to the public interest and the legal status of the Renminbi, “Notice” requires that financial institutions and payment institutions should, in their daily work, employ the concept of proper money, focus on strengthening public knowledge of currency, maintain a proper understanding of currency and of virtual goods and commodities, practice rational investment, reasonably limit investment risk, safeguard individual property, and other concepts included in financial literacy activities, and guide the public to establish a firm understanding of concepts related to currencies and investment.
The People’s Bank of China
Ministry of Industry and Information Technology
China Banking Regulatory Commission
China Securities Regulatory Commission
China Insurance Regulatory Commission
December 3rd, 2013
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December 18, 2013, 10:46:23 AM |
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Sempre dal sito di BTC, traduzione in inglese della dichiarazione delle autorità cinesi.
The People’s Bank of China and Five Associated Ministries Notice: “Prevention of Risks Associated with Bitcoin”
To safeguard the interests and property rights of the public, to protect the legal standing of the Renminbi, to precaution against the risk of money laundering and maintain financial stability, the People’s Bank of China, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, the China Banking Regulatory Commission, the China Securities Regulatory Commission and the China Insurance Regulatory Commission have jointly issued “People’s Bank of China, Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of China, China Securities Regulatory Commission, China Banking Regulatory Commission and the China Insurance Regulatory Commission Notice on the Prevention of Risks Associated with Bitcoin” (Bank Notice [2013] No. 289, hereinafter referred to as “Notice”).
[Notice] Clearly defining the nature of Bitcoin, which is not issued by a central monetary authority, it does not possess characteristics of legal tender, and does not have real meaning as a currency. On the nature of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is a specially-designated virtual commodity or good, and does not have the same legal status as currency, and cannot be used as circulating currency in the market. However, Bitcoin trading constitutes a method of buying and selling commodities online, and ordinary people are free to participate, so long as they are willing to assume the risk.
[Notice] It is required that, at this stage, financial and payment institutions may not use Bitcoin pricing for products or services, may not buy or sell Bitcoins, may not act as a central counterparty in Bitcoin trading, may not offer insurance products associated with Bitcoin, may not provide direct or indirect Bitcoin-related services to customers, including: registering, trading, settling, clearing or other services; accepting Bitcoin or use of Bitcoin as a clearing tool; trading Bitcoin with CNY or foreign currencies; storing, escrowing, and mortgaging in Bitcoin; issuing Bitcoin-related financial products; and using Bitcoin as a means of investment for trusts and funds.
[Notice] It is required that, websites serving primarily as Bitcoin trading platforms, must, according to the Telecommunications Regulations of the People’s Republic of China and the Internet Information Services Managing Guidelines, legally register with the Telecommunications Bureau. Meanwhile, Bitcoin has a comparatively high risk of use for money laundering or by criminal actors; this Notice requires that all relevant institutions comply with relevant authorities and with the People’s Republic of China Anti-Money Laundering Law, and fulfill requirements related to customer identification, submit “suspicious transaction” reports and fulfill other statutory anti-money laundering obligations, preventing the risk of money laundering associated with Bitcoin.
In order to prevent the use of Bitcoin and other “virtual currencies” for use in excessive speculation, posing a risk to the public interest and the legal status of the Renminbi, “Notice” requires that financial institutions and payment institutions should, in their daily work, employ the concept of proper money, focus on strengthening public knowledge of currency, maintain a proper understanding of currency and of virtual goods and commodities, practice rational investment, reasonably limit investment risk, safeguard individual property, and other concepts included in financial literacy activities, and guide the public to establish a firm understanding of concepts related to currencies and investment.
The People’s Bank of China
Ministry of Industry and Information Technology
China Banking Regulatory Commission
China Securities Regulatory Commission
China Insurance Regulatory Commission
December 3rd, 2013
Questo è diverso da cosa si legge in giro: Il punto critico è il primo Notice, dove dice che non essendo una valuta riconosciuta ma una commodity virtuale non può circolare come valuta sul mercato però il trading viene ammesso e le piattaforme di trading possono continuare ad operare fintanto che rispettino le leggi anti riciclaggio (come avviene già per tutti gli altri paesi) solo le istituzioni finanziarie non possono usare bitcoin (banche, assicurazioni, enti statali, money transfer e così via) Lo scenario non è roseo ma è molto meno nero del ban completo che molti stanno riportando |
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December 18, 2013, 05:32:22 PM |
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Questo è diverso da cosa si legge in giro: Il punto critico è il primo Notice, dove dice che non essendo una valuta riconosciuta ma una commodity virtuale non può circolare come valuta sul mercato però il trading viene ammesso e le piattaforme di trading possono continuare ad operare fintanto che rispettino le leggi anti riciclaggio (come avviene già per tutti gli altri paesi) solo le istituzioni finanziarie non possono usare bitcoin (banche, assicurazioni, enti statali, money transfer e così via) Lo scenario non è roseo ma è molto meno nero del ban completo che molti stanno riportando [/quote] A mio modesto parere, a me sembra una buona notizia. E' solo un bene che le banche e istituti finanziari non usino i bitcoin, perché essendo in grado di muovere grossi capitali potrebbero (forse l'hanno già fatto) oscillare il mercato in modo anomalo. Meglio così secondo me, il mercato potrebbe diventare più stabile. Poi che non la considerano una moneta, peggio per loro. Quando lo capiranno sarà troppo tardi. Al sistema bitcoin non gli interessa come le istituzioni lo classificano. |
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