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Are you fuck*ng kidding me?

I started getting into Bitcoin when it was like $750 bucks, it crashed all the way down to $150 coming from the peak of $1200 ish on MtGox... everyone was saying it was dead, but the more I read about Bitcoin, the more it became OBVIOUS to me that Bitcoin was extremely cheap at $1200, and obviously at $150, when all the idiots were claiming it was dead. Now we are once again experiencing exactly the same situation. Bitcoin's technology keeps evolving, everything keeps getting better, but all the noobs get distracted by fake news, fork this fork that... sad to see, but this gives us smart money the possibility to accumulate more before floor becomes 6 figures.

Anyone not accumulating Bitcoin under 5 figures a coin is completely insane. We will revisit this thread in 2020 for some perspective and time will put once again everyone where they belong.
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February 09, 2018, 04:52:15 PM
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Can't blame people to risk money into something they don't fully understand. There'd be naysayers and doubters spreading FUD and fear while you are quietly building profits on your arsenal. It also became a lesson to me, when every push to $300 are regarded as 'dead cat bounces' by permabears, it's a sign that you should wait for the price to go down again and buy as many as you can. Made a decent stash by waiting on weekends to buy cheap coins and profited more than I could imagine. The thing is, when these bears are spreading FUD and fear, that is the time to buy when everyone else is selling their hard-earned bitcoins.

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February 09, 2018, 04:57:03 PM
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Can't blame people to risk money into something they don't fully understand. There'd be naysayers and doubters spreading FUD and fear while you are quietly building profits on your arsenal. It also became a lesson to me, when every push to $300 are regarded as 'dead cat bounces' by permabears, it's a sign that you should wait for the price to go down again and buy as many as you can. Made a decent stash by waiting on weekends to buy cheap coins and profited more than I could imagine. The thing is, when these bears are spreading FUD and fear, that is the time to buy when everyone else is selling their hard-earned bitcoins.

I just have the feel that im surrounded by people that joined Bitcoin in 2017. I can't stand all these complete morons on Youtube making videos about Bitcoin with their obnoxious thumbnails. It was way better when it was underground, but I guess this is the world we live in now, and thanks to these idiots panic selling, we'll profit buying the dip and taking their cheap Bitcoin away from their hands, which they never deserved to own to begin with. I researched enough to feel confident about getting involved in the middle of a crash, but these people are clearly jumping on the bandwagon for no reason other than internet traffic.

I can't wait for the next ATH, I'll add them to my collection of people that were wrong. Im making a nice folder filled of screenshot. I got many from back in the MtGox crash period.
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February 09, 2018, 05:25:14 PM
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We are just in the era of should I say original Bitcoinners that are adequately fit to be in the field. No one with Bitcoin as far as then and who truly knows and understands Bitcoin etiques that can ever flout junks of Bitcoin incumbency. Can we blame them of their foolish FUDs? When they are nothing but just what I can call CRYPTOPEST. They are just here to suck Bitcoin Sugar and fly away when it's saulty, which ignorantly and unknowingly to them is the period of addictness. We are not bothered or worried in the real sense of it about the current situation of Bitcoin. Hard times never last,no cause for unnecessary panic.
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February 09, 2018, 05:44:47 PM
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Is anyone that held throught 2013 crash worried about the current situation?

Are you fuck*ng kidding me?

I started getting into Bitcoin when it was like $750 bucks, it crashed all the way down to $150 coming from the peak of $1200 ish on MtGox... everyone was saying it was dead, but the more I read about Bitcoin, the more it became OBVIOUS to me that Bitcoin was extremely cheap at $1200, and obviously at $150, when all the idiots were claiming it was dead. Now we are once again experiencing exactly the same situation. Bitcoin's technology keeps evolving, everything keeps getting better, but all the noobs get distracted by fake news, fork this fork that... sad to see, but this gives us smart money the possibility to accumulate more before floor becomes 6 figures.

Anyone not accumulating Bitcoin under 5 figures a coin is completely insane. We will revisit this thread in 2020 for some perspective and time will put once again everyone where they belong.


It should be called a 2014 crash and not 2013.   One thing from that time you might remember was that people were keep calling bottom. And that price  can never go under that. $600 and $500 and $400 and $300. And at the end when even under $200.  That was the real bottom.  And that is why calling some is super silly.


But yes fundamentals never change. More you read more you can be sure of the bright future.  I was not here in 2013, but joined in 2014 same as you. I read and learn and knew what will happen. But I had dreamed in wildest dream that will at start of 2018 ECB sending tweets with pools if Bitcoin is an alternative to Euro.  I imagine that happen years latter.
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February 09, 2018, 06:59:01 PM
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Are you fuck*ng kidding me?

I started getting into Bitcoin when it was like $750 bucks, it crashed all the way down to $150 coming from the peak of $1200 ish on MtGox... everyone was saying it was dead, but the more I read about Bitcoin, the more it became OBVIOUS to me that Bitcoin was extremely cheap at $1200, and obviously at $150, when all the idiots were claiming it was dead. Now we are once again experiencing exactly the same situation. Bitcoin's technology keeps evolving, everything keeps getting better, but all the noobs get distracted by fake news, fork this fork that... sad to see, but this gives us smart money the possibility to accumulate more before floor becomes 6 figures.

Anyone not accumulating Bitcoin under 5 figures a coin is completely insane. We will revisit this thread in 2020 for some perspective and time will put once again everyone where they belong.

Similar story here buddy, I started buying when bitcoin was about £400, at one point I was at over a 50% loss. I HODLED through that & I’ll sure as hell HODL through this.

I plan to sell around 75% of my stash in approx 2021, I think the price will go parabolic by then.

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February 09, 2018, 07:49:34 PM
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Same here. Bought my first coins @150. Then I decided to buy more. That time it was at around 600. As it was going up I bought some more at 700. Invested all my savings. Then it went down from 1200 to 150 and it seemed like its over. Had a huge loss but told me "the captain goes down with the ship" and holded and still holding.

But the situation in December made feel exactly like that time around 1200. I swear I wrote a few times here that it feels exactly like back on that MtGox time. And everybody was telling "its different this time, we will go up up up". Whatever, I hold through this as well.
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February 09, 2018, 09:40:56 PM
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Can't blame people to risk money into something they don't fully understand. There'd be naysayers and doubters spreading FUD and fear while you are quietly building profits on your arsenal. It also became a lesson to me, when every push to $300 are regarded as 'dead cat bounces' by permabears, it's a sign that you should wait for the price to go down again and buy as many as you can. Made a decent stash by waiting on weekends to buy cheap coins and profited more than I could imagine. The thing is, when these bears are spreading FUD and fear, that is the time to buy when everyone else is selling their hard-earned bitcoins.

I just have the feel that im surrounded by people that joined Bitcoin in 2017. I can't stand all these complete morons on Youtube making videos about Bitcoin with their obnoxious thumbnails. It was way better when it was underground, but I guess this is the world we live in now, and thanks to these idiots panic selling, we'll profit buying the dip and taking their cheap Bitcoin away from their hands, which they never deserved to own to begin with. I researched enough to feel confident about getting involved in the middle of a crash, but these people are clearly jumping on the bandwagon for no reason other than internet traffic.

I can't wait for the next ATH, I'll add them to my collection of people that were wrong. Im making a nice folder filled of screenshot. I got many from back in the MtGox crash period.
It would be nice to see those screenshots soon but for now just collect it. Post it here in this thread by 2020, it will be a nice way to look back to the current happenings now. If you can't stand what those morons are doing, never mind about them, and just take their btc whenever they sell it cheap. I can't wait to see the current price by the year 2020.
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February 10, 2018, 12:00:39 AM
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I sold my initial coins when the price started growing in 2013 around $400 and by $600 i ended up selling all of my coins,i was furious when the price went over a thousand dollars and kept moving ,but then the market corrected itself and gave me the opportunity to buy back the coins again at around $250,the problem with me is that i would sell off well before the market reach the pinnacle and that happened in the recent rally in 2017,i sold most of my coins before touching $5k thinking we would see some correction,but the market kept on moving and so i have to sell off my altcoins and covert them to bitcoin ,i am yet to buy back bitcoin but i am investing in altcoins for now as there are some coins which are really low,which might give me more profit than bitcoin in the short run,eventually converting it back to bitcoin. Wink
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February 10, 2018, 06:12:18 AM
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Are you fuck*ng kidding me?

I started getting into Bitcoin when it was like $750 bucks, it crashed all the way down to $150 coming from the peak of $1200 ish on MtGox... everyone was saying it was dead, but the more I read about Bitcoin, the more it became OBVIOUS to me that Bitcoin was extremely cheap at $1200, and obviously at $150, when all the idiots were claiming it was dead. Now we are once again experiencing exactly the same situation. Bitcoin's technology keeps evolving, everything keeps getting better, but all the noobs get distracted by fake news, fork this fork that... sad to see, but this gives us smart money the possibility to accumulate more before floor becomes 6 figures.

Anyone not accumulating Bitcoin under 5 figures a coin is completely insane. We will revisit this thread in 2020 for some perspective and time will put once again everyone where they belong.

You've nailed it. I actually regret not buying as much as I did back in 2014-2015 because I was a newbie to crypto back then and thought the exact same thoughts that people right now are panicking about. I was worried way too much even though I knew that bitcoin had potential.

So my advice to new bitcoin investors is this - if you think that bitcoin has potential for mass adoption, and be used basically anywhere around the world as a currency in the near future, then you should follow your gut feeling and buy at 4 figures.

Sometimes checking the prices too frequently can become a distraction instead of something of a good thing. That I learned from experience. There is just way too much FUD going on these days, that isn't even legit.

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February 10, 2018, 12:33:57 PM
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This is such a great thread I hope I have more merits to give to everyone who replied above!
Thanks for sharing your experience - this is a thread which sheds a lot of light on the true meaning of HODLing
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February 10, 2018, 01:20:19 PM
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Seriously, at the moment we entered 2017, the market was hovering under the $1000 level, and my personal target was to see Bitcoin be worth $3000 exactly one year later. Even at the lowest point of the recent correction (which was slightly below $6000), the market has still greatly exceeded my expectations. My current target for exactly one year later from now is $25,000, and everything we end up gaining more than that is a bonus for me. The most important thing is to remain realistic with your expectations, because the peak that we experienced didn't reflect the value of the market. $20,000 was waaaaay overvalued, and bound to come down big time, and it did. The only right thing to do at that point was cashing out profits and re-enter when the market corrects. If you bought at such levels instead of selling, you're one of the get rich quick baboons this market is infested with.

Common sense basic facts that should prevent you from buying at that point;

1) we were very close to an important psychological barrier (i.e $20,000).
2) we were only going up that high because of the speculative hype regarding the future markets.
3) the market was in a massive overbought state already.

At the moment CME entered the game, there was no speculative hype to sustain anymore, and boom, the market went towards the South.
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February 10, 2018, 02:48:26 PM
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My big regret is not accumulating more when nobody wanted in back then.  I don't care what the sentiment is anymore, I'm accumulating.

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Seriously, at the moment we entered 2017, the market was hovering under the $1000 level, and my personal target was to see Bitcoin be worth $3000 exactly one year later. Even at the lowest point of the recent correction (which was slightly below $6000), the market has still greatly exceeded my expectations. My current target for exactly one year later from now is $25,000, and everything we end up gaining more than that is a bonus for me. The most important thing is to remain realistic with your expectations, because the peak that we experienced didn't reflect the value of the market. $20,000 was waaaaay overvalued, and bound to come down big time, and it did. The only right thing to do at that point was cashing out profits and re-enter when the market corrects. If you bought at such levels instead of selling, you're one of the get rich quick baboons this market is infested with.

Common sense basic facts that should prevent you from buying at that point;

1) we were very close to an important psychological barrier (i.e $20,000).
2) we were only going up that high because of the speculative hype regarding the future markets.
3) the market was in a massive overbought state already.

At the moment CME entered the game, there was no speculative hype to sustain anymore, and boom, the market went towards the South.

But the thing with bubbles is, we could have never known where the top is. A lot of people sold at $10,000 thinking that was the top, but it went to $20,000

It could have gone way higher, and the higher it goes, the more hardcore the fall will be, granted, but also the highest the floor will be in absolute terms. So if we hit $40,000, the psychological floor would be formed way higher than the $5900 one which is the current one.

So the moral of the history is... holding through the bubbles and not selling (doing nothing) is as valid as trying to time a top and selling.

Fundamentals are all that matter and they are solid. Fiat continues deprecating on the long term, im not falling for short term market noise to shake out my bitcoin position.
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February 10, 2018, 03:32:46 PM
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Considering my somewhat positive target was $10.000 for next halving (or around 2020) I can't complaint with current prices. I hodled thru this drop the same as I did in 2013.

There is no point in regretting it, because if I were of the ones that try to "sell at the top" I would have considered it to be $10K or even MUCH lower. So I wouldn't have been able to sell nowhere near $20K because I would have had my BTC long gone before.

Also, it never was my intention to go and sell all. There's some people that seem to imply that's what they will do when their target price is reached. I do plan on taking some profits at staggered target prices, but that's all.

Considering that... Am I worried? Well, I guess I am always "worried", no matter if it is rocketing or dumping but that won't make me change my plans. If it wasn't because currently the amount in fiat value I have on the table is worth more than 1 order of magnitude higher than in late 2013 I think I wouldn't worry at all.

My bet on Bitcoin is a long term one. Only time will tell if I was right or wrong. There's nothing I can do now to change that.



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Considering my somewhat positive target was $10.000 for next halving (or around 2020) I can't complaint with current prices. I hodled thru this drop the same as I did in 2013.

There is no point in regretting it, because if I were of the ones that try to "sell at the top" I would have considered it to be $10K or even MUCH lower. So I wouldn't have been able to sell nowhere near $20K because I would have had my BTC long gone before.

Also, it never was my intention to go and sell all. There's some people that seem to imply that's what they will do when their target price is reached. I do plan on taking some profits at staggered target prices, but that's all.

Considering that... Am I worried? Well, I guess I am always "worried", no matter if it is rocketing or dumping but that won't make me change my plans. If it wasn't because currently the amount in fiat value I have on the table is worth more than 1 order of magnitude higher than in late 2013 I think I wouldn't worry at all.

My bet on Bitcoin is a long term one. Only time will tell if I was right or wrong. There's nothing I can do now to change that.



Might want to set some levels where you sell a fraction of your btc.  I had levels at $7,500 and $15,000 that got reached during the 2017 pump.  In the future each doubling is another selling point.  It's basically what rpietilla used to post about.  Takes the emotion out of it and you never run out of btc. 

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February 10, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
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I bought at 80 $ back in 2013. My nerves have become molybdenum steel along the way after sitting through three bubles, the Mt.Gox chrash and the Bitcoin24 fraud. Now I'm waiting to buy some more when/if we go below 5 k, otherwise I'll just sit on my position.
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February 10, 2018, 04:42:55 PM
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People who invested in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency or maybe even tokens don't understand how it all works and why it works. They don't want to know. They just want to earn some money fast. That's why they always panic.
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February 10, 2018, 05:07:19 PM
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People ain't insane bruh. Insane is good. They are idiots who don't how to act in difficult situations. Bitcoin reached here because of them,their criticism,their nonsense,their shit has played quite a big part in making  bitcoin famous. They panic sold,smart people bought it.
Screw 2013,had people bought when the price was 1000$ in 2017,they would have gained 20X of their initial investment. I remember when people(including me) were warning users not to buy bitcoin when the price was around 3000$,guess where we went.
People who invested in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency or maybe even tokens don't understand how it all works and why it works. They don't want to know. They just want to earn some money fast. That's why they always panic.
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February 10, 2018, 05:27:04 PM
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This is true bitcoin can fluctuates and reach as deepest as $170 but it does not mean that it will going die. The market might experiencing a crisis now as what many people see it, but for those who are part of bitcoin community when the value was $170 surely are not afraid with this current situation and still believing after quite sometime this market will recover and pump even much better than before.
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