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February 09, 2018, 04:14:57 PM
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Why doesn't God simply destroy us for our evil?

When God made Adam and Eve, He made them perfect. There wasn't anything more perfect than the perfection God placed in them and into the universe.

In fact, because of this perfection, God, Himself, decided to occupy Adam and Eve spiritually. That is what is meant by making them in His own image. That is what is shown by breathing the breath (spirit) of life into Adam.

Now here is the actual reason. God is so extremely great that He can't allow defamation of his character, defamation of His Name, defamation of Himself. The destruction of mankind would mean defamation of God, because God actually lives within mankind.

The impossibility of this whole situation comes when mankind use their "godness" to defame God. So, how does God keep Himself from being defamed when destroying mankind would defame Him, and when not destroying them would defame Him.

God did it by sending His Son, Jesus into the world as a man, to live a perfect life, and to suffer the punishment and death that God would have to mete out to all people. Then, because Jesus was perfect, God raised Him from the dead and set Him in a position of authority over all things.

There is only one more piece of evil in mankind that needs to be corrected. That evil is the choice that God holds open in man, to be against or in favor of God. Man makes the choice that destroys or saves himself... but only because God holds that choice open for man, as part of the method for maintaining His own good Name.

Man's choice is to be in favor of God or against Him. God will not be defamed. Jesus took care of that. All that is left is to let those who don't want salvation - who don't want to maintain godness within themselves - to set themselves up for losing God in the Hell that awaits them. The choice is made by people when they believe and accept the salvation of Jesus.

What do you think?

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February 09, 2018, 04:17:38 PM
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I don't think god can do anything in this world at all. You may have seen cancer or disease getting cured on live tv, but have you seen limbs grow back? Healing sounds pretty selective to me.
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February 09, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
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If it wasn't for God, there wouldn't be any limbs at all, or even life.

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February 09, 2018, 05:00:52 PM
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Why doesn't God simply destroy us for our evil?

Same reason the Easter Bunny doesn't give us discounts for the dentist?  


If it wasn't for God, there wouldn't be any limbs at all, or even life.

The first few billion years of life did not have the intelligence to understand a god, yet they thrived and evolved... try again.


God is so extremely great that He can't allow defamation of his character, defamation of His Name, defamation of Himself.

Then why doesn't he stop the growing atheist movement that is sweeping the planet?  No one believes in fairy tales anymore.  The world isn't flat.

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February 09, 2018, 05:09:08 PM
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He did it before when he flooded the earth to start the human race all over with Noah's family, and he established a covenant with Noah and his descendants after him that "never again shall all flesh be cutoff by the waters of a flood, and never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth." Just wait for the second coming I'm pretty sure that all faces of evil on earth will be vanished.

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February 09, 2018, 05:13:50 PM
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He did it before when he flooded the earth to start the human race all over with Noah's family

That has been debunked as false.  Many religions have the same tale of flooding or destruction.  It helps keep their followers in line.

Read the dozens of similar fairy tales told by different cultures:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

Water carries sedimentation.  We can tell where water has been by tracking that sedimentation and using something called "science".   Smiley

Besides, why doesn't our DNA show that we all descended from that one family?   Roll Eyes  

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February 09, 2018, 07:58:26 PM
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Why doesn't God simply destroy us for our evil?

When God made Adam and Eve, He made them perfect. There wasn't anything more perfect than the perfection God placed in them and into the universe.

In fact, because of this perfection, God, Himself, decided to occupy Adam and Eve spiritually. That is what is meant by making them in His own image. That is what is shown by breathing the breath (spirit) of life into Adam.

Now here is the actual reason. God is so extremely great that He can't allow defamation of his character, defamation of His Name, defamation of Himself. The destruction of mankind would mean defamation of God, because God actually lives within mankind.

The impossibility of this whole situation comes when mankind use their "godness" to defame God. So, how does God keep Himself from being defamed when destroying mankind would defame Him, and when not destroying them would defame Him.

God did it by sending His Son, Jesus into the world as a man, to live a perfect life, and to suffer the punishment and death that God would have to mete out to all people. Then, because Jesus was perfect, God raised Him from the dead and set Him in a position of authority over all things.

There is only one more piece of evil in mankind that needs to be corrected. That evil is the choice that God holds open in man, to be against or in favor of God. Man makes the choice that destroys or saves himself... but only because God holds that choice open for man, as part of the method for maintaining His own good Name.

Man's choice is to be in favor of God or against Him. God will not be defamed. Jesus took care of that. All that is left is to let those who don't want salvation - who don't want to maintain godness within themselves - to set themselves up for losing God in the Hell that awaits them. The choice is made by people when they believe and accept the salvation of Jesus.

What do you think?

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You die, you decompose, end of story.  In few generations, nobody will remember you existed.

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February 09, 2018, 08:37:04 PM
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Why does not God simply destroy us for our evil?

It is simple, because we have not evil inside, I know it, I know it because i know who the evil is, she have the long hair and it was my girlfriend long ago, I have no doubt about it: P

Nah seriously, if you are a believer, you should not ask yourself about what are the intentions of god, you should simply accept it, because how can god be wrong?, thats all, so if he didnt destroy us yet, is because he / it / she or whatever you want to call it, does not want.


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February 09, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
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The way you describe god, his character, he sounds like someone who has a flawed character. Insecure character, "I will not be defamed, how there they." A human of high character would not worry what say a whinny fellow human would think. It would be like caring what a kid thinks. So why would got care what flaws humans think of him? Only simple humans would care about such things, or value such things, which makes me think that this version of god was made up by such simple people.
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February 09, 2018, 10:06:43 PM
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Man's choice is to be in favor of God or against Him. God will not be defamed. Jesus took care of that. All that is left is to let those who don't want salvation - who don't want to maintain godness within themselves - to set themselves up for losing God in the Hell that awaits them. The choice is made by people when they believe and accept the salvation of Jesus.

I agree that we are created in Gods image however if you look into the world and see all the destruction I think we rather behave like the devil rather than God. The "godness" is just restored through his "goodness" when he sent Jesus for us. In him we are a new creation, with God dwelling inside of us and wanting us to do good. That makes us more and more "godlike".
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February 09, 2018, 10:55:36 PM
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In my opinion there are two explanations to this.

a) Man was made in God's image. This means that everything flawed in his creation, is also mirrored unto him. If he were to destroy us for being evil, he would then have to enforce the same punishment on him.

b) There is no God and quite possibly there is no such thing as good or evil. It's all part of subjective morality.
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February 10, 2018, 02:16:37 AM
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Human are the creation of god. We all are sons and daughter of the god.
God wanted his siblings to live happily with love and sympathy to each other.
Now as his siblings are filled with greed and pride, fighting and killing each other, it's really difficult for god to take sides.
It's really difficult to kill your own siblings.
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February 10, 2018, 04:19:38 AM
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So-called god is not powerful enough to destroy ongoing evil stuff on earth. Because, any kind of god does not exist on the universe. Humanity can vanish evil stuff from the surface of earth. That' is the real point for me.

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February 10, 2018, 05:06:35 AM
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Either he knows about it, cares about it, but can't do anything about it, OR

He cares about it, can do something about it, but doesn't know about it, OR

He knows about it, can do something about it, but doesn't care.


OR


He's a prick, and all of this was on purpose.  He tossed us out of Eden so we said "fuck it, we'll go build our OWN Eden", and the following few thousand years have been an attempt to replace magic with technology.
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February 10, 2018, 06:42:50 AM
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Because God loves us dearly that He gave man the free will to do what he/she wants. The free will to do good or to do evil. The Lord also gave us grace, the unmerited favor of God, that we cannot deserve but He still bestow upon us. But still God punishes men who continue to act sinfully.   
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February 10, 2018, 08:20:28 AM
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Either he knows about it, cares about it, but can't do anything about it, OR

He cares about it, can do something about it, but doesn't know about it, OR

He knows about it, can do something about it, but doesn't care.


OR


He's a prick, and all of this was on purpose.  He tossed us out of Eden so we said "fuck it, we'll go build our OWN Eden", and the following few thousand years have been an attempt to replace magic with technology.

OR

God is a super nice guy, and is giving you a time to repent, and become a friend of His. But if you don't, it's you or Him. And of course, it will be Him, because He controls everything, and won't reject Himself for you...

Although He came very close to that, when He gave up His life for you, in Jesus death on the cross.

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February 10, 2018, 08:21:55 AM
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Because is a loving God who doesn't think of our our evil doing before blessing us, who showers his love on us, who forgive us our sins despite the fact who always commit sin because of his love for us that's y he does not destroy us because he loves us.
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February 10, 2018, 09:12:07 AM
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Because God wants us to save, Jesus came here to save and seek the lost, He gave His own begotten Son just to cleanse our sin/evilness, God gave us the chance because of His wonderfu love to us. Thats why, God wants us to go to Him to earn the salvation that is freely given to us.
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February 10, 2018, 09:18:33 AM
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The answer is Jesus Coin   Smiley
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February 10, 2018, 09:57:31 AM
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The answer is simple, God doesn't exist. If he does is, he is clearly either impotent, malevolent or has abandoned us.
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