Any Proof that Satoshi wrote this?

[Ucy]

Can anyone please prove he wrote the letter contained in this link: http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/emails/cryptography/2/


This quote is what am particularly interested in:

  "network nodes. At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the
network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to
specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would
only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with
that one node."



I kind of doubt it came from Satoshi.

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[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Why would you doubt that? It sounds sensible. Have you seen how large the blockchain file is nowadays? It's nearing 200 GB. And it's far more convenient to run a light wallet than to download the whole blockchain for average consumers and users.

[Gabi]

No way to figure out... Wording and writing style of email is different comparing to WP, but that's rather what should be expected.

Core wallet data takes now exactly 178,920,580 bytes, it doesn't grow too quickly, but pretty much already in desktop/workstation category.

[Rhinoboy11]

Can anyone please prove he wrote the letter contained in this link: http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/emails/cryptography/2/


This quote is what am particularly interested in:

  "network nodes. At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the
network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to
specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would
only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with
that one node."



I kind of doubt it came from Satoshi.

No one even knows who Satoshi is. lol

[ranman09]

Can anyone please prove he wrote the letter contained in this link: http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/emails/cryptography/2/


This quote is what am particularly interested in:

  "network nodes. At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the
network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to
specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would
only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with
that one node."



I kind of doubt it came from Satoshi.

Wasn't he talking here about mining pools? Or am I wrong? This is happening right now if I'm correct. The blockchain's size is now too big for a single user to run it a node. So this is most essential. And I think Satoshi wrote this.

[BTRIC]

Can anyone please prove he wrote the letter contained in this link: http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/emails/cryptography/2/


This quote is what am particularly interested in:

  "network nodes. At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the
network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to
specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would
only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with
that one node."



I kind of doubt it came from Satoshi.

Wasn't he talking here about mining pools? Or am I wrong? This is happening right now if I'm correct. The blockchain's size is now too big for a single user to run it a node. So this is most essential. And I think Satoshi wrote this.

Some of us do run full nodes to help increase the resilience of the network.  If somehow the world got wiped out and my server was the only copy of the blockchain remaining, we'd be happy to propagate it back to other nodes as they rejoined the network.  Of course, that's highly unlikely, but I try to do what I can to help advance Bitcoin, and that's really the least I can do.  Yes, the blockchain grows larger as time goes on, but until/unless it grows so much that I'm unable to provide storage space for it, I'll continue to run a full node.  We also do not do any Bitcoin mining, don't own any ASICs. We just have a lot of excess CPU cycles and plenty of storage space, so we do what we can with that.

But I agree that light wallets are essential for wider adoption.  Most people just want to transact, and for them, the faster they can get in and out the better.

I do like those "node in a box" mini PC devices that are for sale, though most that I've seen seem overpriced.  I believe as we move to decentralized systems, including wider use of Bitcoin, that more operations will get devices like these that are essentially turnkey nodes.  I can see them working for more than just Bitcoin, enabling other decentralized services.  That's something that eventually I'd like to look at how to standardize, a specification for hardware that has very user-friendly services plugins, you could easily add, say, Bitcoin, IPFS, and maybe Mastodon or something.  These boxes could also serve as a Personal Data Store.

As to whether or not Satoshi wrote the quoted text, I have no idea.  I'm not sure it matters, honestly, because but what is quoted is correct regardless of its authorship.  Not everyone needs to run a node and in server environments of Bitcoin businesses, it's unnecessary to run more than a couple nodes (fault-tolerance) in a given farm.

That's my thoughts on it anyway.

Best regards,
Ben

[ranman09]

Can anyone please prove he wrote the letter contained in this link: http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/emails/cryptography/2/


This quote is what am particularly interested in:

  "network nodes. At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the
network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to
specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would
only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with
that one node."



I kind of doubt it came from Satoshi.

Wasn't he talking here about mining pools? Or am I wrong? This is happening right now if I'm correct. The blockchain's size is now too big for a single user to run it a node. So this is most essential. And I think Satoshi wrote this.

Some of us do run full nodes to help increase the resilience of the network.  If somehow the world got wiped out and my server was the only copy of the blockchain remaining, we'd be happy to propagate it back to other nodes as they rejoined the network.  Of course, that's highly unlikely, but I try to do what I can to help advance Bitcoin, and that's really the least I can do. 

If this happens which is highly unlikely as you said. Then you will be able to edit the blockchain as nodes/miners need to verify against other records.

[DooMAD]

Wasn't he talking here about mining pools?

Yes, or miners in general to be precise.  Satoshi certainly wasn't suggesting we wouldn't need non-mining nodes, because it wasn't apparent they'd need to exist at the time.  In order to read the whitepaper (and Satoshi's replies to the Cryptography mailing list) correctly, you have to mentally substitute "node" with either "mine", "miners" or "mining".  In the early days of Bitcoin, there was no such thing as a non-mining full node.  Everyone was either a miner or an SPV user.  But then mining became an arms race, so GPU mining and, eventually, ASICs happened.  So the average person wasn't really able to mine anymore, unless they were somewhat wealthy and had the latest hardware.  Satoshi correctly predicted that there would be mining farms, like the ones that exist now, but the general notion is that it wasn't meant to happen quite this soon.  What we think of as "nodes" today, only became a necessity because mining centralised far more quickly than anyone could have anticipated.  The non-mining nodes are effectively required to prevent miners having too much power over the network.  

[Quickseller]

This quote is what am particularly interested in:

  "network nodes. At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the
network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to
specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would
only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with
that one node."

This is a fairly well known quote of satoshis. He made that statement.

[BTRIC]

If this happens which is highly unlikely as you said. Then you will be able to edit the blockchain as nodes/miners need to verify against other records.

Indeed.  If the rest of the world were wiped out, it's very unlikely that a node running in a rack in a small server closet in central New Jersey would be miraculously be spared.

Brings a thought to mind though.  Are there any known Bitcoin nodes that run in highly secured and hardened facilities?  I remember reading an article about people storing private keys in a decommissioned nuclear bunker now used as an archival site.  But I'm wondering about actual, operating nodes.

[wriizo]

Lol, there is not a single person in this world who can know if this is written by Satoshi. I mean I'm not saying that there's not a way that this is him, but the chances are very slim. Even if it is we will never know.