[CLOSED] NanoFury NF1 USB stick - Group Buy + Product Assembly

[philipma1957]

Yup! Totally agree with what he said. Plus, it would force the cost of the other miners down, or force their buyers to look this way.

I mine about 90 am sticks. I can mine 150 sticks no problem. (i i have the hubs and have mined at 137 so far as a max.)


 I sold about 200 am sticks on ebay.

  I am drooling at this new product it would allow good sales on ebay and allow me to upgrade my personal mine.

[Swimmer63]

Want to pre-order but not sure how much to pay. I have been reading this thread for about 1 hour now.

hmm... maybe we should redo the opening post

OK, here is the shortest/simplest answer:

If you want full devices - that's 0.4BTC per device now,
If you have your own bitfury chips and want them just assembled into our device - that's 0.2BTC per device now,
and by Oct/3 we'll know exactly how much the final price is going to end up being and you'll need to send us the remainder.

I will order at least 10. How close/far away are we from 3000.

[tk1337]

Interested in grabbing a some...

But (and I'm sure this is answered somewhere in this thread, just have a headache and don't feel like searching atm) not sure  what the estimated price range will be for the remainder after the 0.40BTC initial. Will try to keep an eye on this thread and read more tomorrow.

[vs3]

Interested in grabbing a some...

But (and I'm sure this is answered somewhere in this thread, just have a headache and don't feel like searching atm) not sure  what the estimated price range will be for the remainder after the 0.40BTC initial. Will try to keep an eye on this thread and read more tomorrow.

I'll be updating the opening post tomorrow and for now the latest pricing information is in the PRICING UPDATE post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291456.msg3150508#msg3150508

[vs3]

ship to the 50 states in a small flat rate box.  it runs about 5-6 bucks.  give the buyer the chance to send a label to you.  like canaryinthemine does..    and force buyers to purchase at least 2 sticks.  the 2 stick minimum  purchase rule would help your handling costs a lot.  also a buyer that purchases 2 sticks is more then happy to spend for tracking and free 50 dollar insurance.  at least he should be.

you have to understand your market upside is huge! why?

 30 k am sticks have been sold by canary in the mine.  and at least 10 k by silent sonic boom

 that means lots of people have hubs   giving them an upgrade from 3.3 gh on a 10 port hub to 20gh is golden.

Shipping to the 50 states is a given. For small orders (less than 10 units) it is most likely going to be USPS. For larger orders USPS is not as competitive - for example 2lb box will get from Los Angeles to Seattle in 2 days with either USPS or FedEx ground, except that FedEx is half the price. Anyways - my point is - there are options and we'll look at the ones that make most sense.

If you want to send me a prepaid shipping label - I'm fine with that too. I guess in that case we'll just have a flat buck or two charge to cover for the shipping materials and the unfortunate soul that will be in charge of wrapping, packaging and shipping everything.

Insurance - in my opinion it should be included in every order, but I am inclined to leave it optional for now.

Anyways - more details will be in the shipping update coming at some point later in the week.

[bobsag3]

ship to the 50 states in a small flat rate box.  it runs about 5-6 bucks.  give the buyer the chance to send a label to you.  like canaryinthemine does..    and force buyers to purchase at least 2 sticks.  the 2 stick minimum  purchase rule would help your handling costs a lot.  also a buyer that purchases 2 sticks is more then happy to spend for tracking and free 50 dollar insurance.  at least he should be.

you have to understand your market upside is huge! why?

 30 k am sticks have been sold by canary in the mine.  and at least 10 k by silent sonic boom

 that means lots of people have hubs   giving them an upgrade from 3.3 gh on a 10 port hub to 20gh is golden.

Shipping to the 50 states is a given. For small orders (less than 10 units) it is most likely going to be USPS. For larger orders USPS is not as competitive - for example 2lb box will get from Los Angeles to Seattle in 2 days with either USPS or FedEx ground, except that FedEx is half the price. Anyways - my point is - there are options and we'll look at the ones that make most sense.

If you want to send me a prepaid shipping label - I'm fine with that too. I guess in that case we'll just have a flat buck or two charge to cover for the shipping materials and the unfortunate soul that will be in charge of wrapping, packaging and shipping everything.

Insurance - in my opinion it should be included in every order, but I am inclined to leave it optional for now.

Anyways - more details will be in the shipping update coming at some point later in the week.

I can ship a 2lb box 2 days for 5.99, 1.95 and ~16... all via flat rate, and the boxes are free.
I got a quote for shipping a 100 blades to UK via fedex/ups, and then USPS, and it was no contest USPS

[Molex1701]

So this is one of those bring your own chip deals?

[lano1106]

I am monitoring this thread. Could be interested in reserving 20-25 NF1s.

The only things missing are:

1. I hate to hand over money to strangers. Have you conducted successfully GB in the past?
2. So far, you are only pseudonyms on a online forum, Can you share real life identity of the NF1 members and contact info?
3. I am waiting to see a video of a working prototype.
4. I have red this thread and you really like to know what you're talking about. I would like to know if this is your first electronic project or if you have accumulated a serie of similar realisations in the electronic field and/or if you have relevent professional background that would help potential customers to trust your ability to fulfill this project successfully.

If you're able to address these points, I am pretty that I will be interested to invest in this venture and probably many more will with these info as well.

Good luck and be your enterprise successful!

[ajw7989]

I am definitely interested in purchasing some depending when the product will ship and the final price

[vs3]

So this is one of those bring your own chip deals?

That is indeed one of the two options. We can use your chips, or we can buy the chips on your behalf.

[vs3]

I am monitoring this thread. Could be interested in reserving 20-25 NF1s.

The only things missing are:

1. I hate to hand over money to strangers. Have you conducted successfully GB in the past?
2. So far, you are only pseudonyms on a online forum, Can you share real life identity of the NF1 members and contact info?
3. I am waiting to see a video of a working prototype.
4. I have red this thread and you really like to know what you're talking about. I would like to know if this is your first electronic project or if you have accumulated a serie of similar realisations in the electronic field and/or if you have relevent professional background that would help potential customers to trust your ability to fulfill this project successfully.

If you're able to address these points, I am pretty that I will be interested to invest in this venture and probably many more will with these info as well.

Good luck and be your enterprise successful!

Hi,

on the various questions:

#2 : I understand your concerns. Would it work for you if I provide my info to John K? For a number of reasons I would prefer not to publish team members personal info.

#3 : We're working hard on that. Getting the chips running is one thing. Rewriting the mining software to support them - quite a different challenge. We've been in talks with several mining software developers (ckolivas, luke_jr and DrHaribo to name a few).
While we're probably going to launch with limited support for just cgminer we are also going to provide those developers hardware and whatever further assistance they need for incorporating support for NF1 in their miners. This however may not happen right away and most likely after we have the mass-produced miners. We've set aside about a dozen devices to be sent out to developers for that specific reason.

#1 and to some extent #4 : I have been in the electronics and software field for over 20 years (I think one of my first hardware+software projects was presented at an exhibition in 1991). I've been working for example with Microchip PIC's microcontrollers when they only had 16C84 (including the one with the software protection bug). Over the last decade I've designed and executed a number projects from end to end - and I mean here from designing the schematics, through writing the software and organizing the entire manufacturing process (including procuring of materials, services, etc) to setting up industrial-scale Q&A and testing for finished products. Compared to some of those projects this one is rather tiny.
Have I done a GB specifically on bitcointalk.org - no, that's the first such GB. Nonetheless - I know first hand (and in details) exactly what's involved in every step. Some of the other team members have been coding for even longer than me. I'm okay also providing JohnK our team members LinkedIn profiles.

Please PM me if I missed anything as I would prefer not to go too much off-topic

[Molex1701]

So this is one of those bring your own chip deals?

That is indeed one of the two options. We can use your chips, or we can buy the chips on your behalf.

So if I can get in .4 by oct 1st I can get one assembled  with a chip?  Then maybe .3 more when done?
Thanks.

[vs3]

So this is one of those bring your own chip deals?

That is indeed one of the two options. We can use your chips, or we can buy the chips on your behalf.

So if I can get in .4 by oct 1st I can get one assembled  with a chip?  Then maybe .3 more when done?
Thanks.

The 0.3 second payment (after the final price is clarified) would actually most likely be less than 0.2 (and we're hoping for 0.1) so that the final price would be in the 0.5 range (although if we attract fewer orders than anticipated we may have to buy bitfury chips at higher price - e.g. zefir's 0.27BTC/chip which would result in final price around 0.6).

[Aggrophobia]

0.5 is not attracting people, so you will get less orders than expected

[bigbeninlondon]

So this is one of those bring your own chip deals?

That is indeed one of the two options. We can use your chips, or we can buy the chips on your behalf.

So if I can get in .4 by oct 1st I can get one assembled  with a chip?  Then maybe .3 more when done?
Thanks.

The 0.3 second payment (after the final price is clarified) would actually most likely be less than 0.2 (and we're hoping for 0.1) so that the final price would be in the 0.5 range (although if we attract fewer orders than anticipated we may have to buy bitfury chips at higher price - e.g. zefir's 0.27BTC/chip which would result in final price around 0.6).

The problem here is that the final price is unknown and policy states I have to commit without knowing the price.  Can you guarantee that .6 is the ceiling?  I'm a small buyer but I imagine the sentiment is the same. 

[vs3]

So this is one of those bring your own chip deals?

That is indeed one of the two options. We can use your chips, or we can buy the chips on your behalf.

So if I can get in .4 by oct 1st I can get one assembled  with a chip?  Then maybe .3 more when done?
Thanks.

The 0.3 second payment (after the final price is clarified) would actually most likely be less than 0.2 (and we're hoping for 0.1) so that the final price would be in the 0.5 range (although if we attract fewer orders than anticipated we may have to buy bitfury chips at higher price - e.g. zefir's 0.27BTC/chip which would result in final price around 0.6).

The problem here is that the final price is unknown and policy states I have to commit without knowing the price.  Can you guarantee that .6 is the ceiling?  I'm a small buyer but I imagine the sentiment is the same. 

0.6 is the ceiling. Period.

[vesperwillow]

So basically we will xfer you X amount of BTC, and whatever that eventually amounts to for units, is what you'll get in the first batch right?

Correct me if my memory fails me, is there any benefit to being in the first group (loyalty rewards lol), or not?

[Istie]

Interested in 5-10 Fully Assembled NF1 plug&play units @.4 maybe more @.3

Do you ship to Europe as well?
What are the shipping costs for international orders? 0.1?
How many pre-orders are placed?
I'm looking forward to see your video/pics

[vs3]

Interested in 5-10 Fully Assembled NF1 plug&play units @.4 maybe more @.3

Do you ship to Europe as well?
What are the shipping costs for international orders? 0.1?
How many pre-orders are placed?
I'm looking forward to see your video/pics

Yes, we will be shipping to Europe. We're also working on setting up a manufacturing point and distribution in Europe (to also cover for such orders).

[vesperwillow]

So basically we will xfer you X amount of BTC, and whatever that eventually amounts to for units, is what you'll get in the first batch right?

Correct me if my memory fails me, is there any benefit to being in the first group (loyalty rewards lol), or not?