[CLOSED] NanoFury NF1 USB stick - Group Buy + Product Assembly

[erk]

rPI supports USB3. Update the kernel, on raspbian with "sudo rpi-update".

I thought the no USB 3  was a hardware thing... not a software thing

Both you have to be able to detect USB 3 features.

Hubs are misleading, I just received a 10 port USB 2.0 hub and it had a 500mA plug pack! So you can drive a max or 1 port at proper USB 2.0 spec.

I think the NF1 could benefit from a good USB 3.0 hub if you are going to run several of them. but make sure you study the specs carefully and be certain it is in a good hub.

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[Luke-Jr]

This hub seems to work well

[philipma1957]

This hub seems to work well

 I had a few of them they like a better brick but with a better 5 amp or 6 amp brick they are good.

[Taugeran]

@vs3 or ljr: how much does each osc6 bit increase appear to increase hashrate by? my math is saying anywhere from 35mh/s up to 50mh/s.


just curious on your results



edit: my math is probably fudged. :/

[vs3]

Taugeran - I'll give it a try.

Have in mind that no two chips are the same, so you might get slightly varying results. Also - since the hashrate fluctuates it will have to be run for at least 12-24hrs before we have some statistically accurate numbers for comparison.

[Taugeran]

Taugeran - I'll give it a try.

Have in mind that no two chips are the same, so you might get slightly varying results. Also - since the hashrate fluctuates it will have to be run for at least 12-24hrs before we have some statistically accurate numbers for comparison.

fair enough

[nemercry]

@Vs3: as i will shortly receive my sticks. is it possible to give an update how to start those sticks ?
On Linux and on Windows please.

Regards.

[Taugeran]

@Vs3: as i will shortly receive my sticks. is it possible to give an update how to start those sticks ?
On Linux and on Windows please.

Regards.

from Microchip's MCP2210 webpage:

Uses standard HID drivers (built-in support on Windows® XP, Vista, 7, Linux and Mac OS®)


So on both OSes it should be a matter of plug and play. it should be auto detected i believe and with cgminer the only thing cg looks for is the USB VID:PID combo to identify the device.

bfminer you will probably have to add -S ......


heres an example from his dev work with cgminer

[vs3]

I'll follow up with Luke-Jr to see if we can get pre-compiled binaries for Linux.

I'm currently trying to set up my Windows box for compiling bfgminer and as soon as I get through the various missing pieces I'll post a zip with the exe and all other required dlls.

In the mean time we're also working on final tweaks to cgminer - I'll post a link to the Windows executable in the next few days as well.

We'll be publishing all source code as well, so anyone can compile his or her own binaries. On a theory everything should be compile-able for Linux too but I don't have the experience there to do a proper testing, so any help in that regard would certainly be welcome.

[Luke-Jr]

My webserver will build any bfgminer branch for Windows: http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/webisect/webisect.php?dobuild=nanofury

Every Linux-based OS really needs its own package/binary - there is no good runs-everywhere solution.

[vs3]

My webserver will build any bfgminer branch for Windows: http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/webisect/webisect.php?dobuild=nanofury

Every Linux-based OS really needs its own package/binary - there is no good runs-everywhere solution.

Luke - I don't know if I've mentioned that before, but ... YOU ROCK!!!

[bigbeninlondon]

This hub seems to work well

Here's the specs from the mfg website:

http://www.orico.com.cn/en/ProductInfo.aspx?typeid=237&id=2078

It says the brick is only 4A; 400mA per port seems low.  Isn't USB3.0 specs 900mA per port?

[nemercry]

Yeah im really amazed to get them. Lets hope Marto will give some information out soon.

 

[Luke-Jr]

This hub seems to work well

Here's the specs from the mfg website:

http://www.orico.com.cn/en/ProductInfo.aspx?typeid=237&id=2078

It says the brick is only 4A; 400mA per port seems low.  Isn't USB3.0 specs 900mA per port?

The brick is 4A @ 12V = 48 W.
48 W / 5V = 9.6A = 10 ports at 0.9A each + 0.6A leftover

[bigbeninlondon]

This hub seems to work well

Here's the specs from the mfg website:

http://www.orico.com.cn/en/ProductInfo.aspx?typeid=237&id=2078

It says the brick is only 4A; 400mA per port seems low.  Isn't USB3.0 specs 900mA per port?

The brick is 4A @ 12V = 48 W.
48 W / 5V = 9.6A = 10 ports at 0.9A each + 0.6A leftover

Aha, didn't notice the voltage.

Thanks for clarifying.

[vs3]

Taugeran - I'll give it a try.

Have in mind that no two chips are the same, so you might get slightly varying results. Also - since the hashrate fluctuates it will have to be run for at least 12-24hrs before we have some statistically accurate numbers for comparison.

fair enough

So, I left one of the slightly under-voltaged sticks run at 54 bits for a bit and that's what I got:

Code:

 No.     Completed     Duration Total Ghps  Difficulty  Your score  Total score Your work Total work     My %      My GH
18951  10/24/2013 4:28   0h 41m  188,383.90 267,731,249   0.00000455 0.40399681   1,217   108,162,570 0.0000112516 2.1196
18950  10/24/2013 3:47   0h 41m  187,203.10 267,731,249   0.00000457 0.40179013   1,223   107,571,773 0.0000113692 2.1283
18949  10/24/2013 3:05   0h 40m  189,955.13 267,731,249   0.00000493 0.40174980   1,319   107,560,976 0.0000122628 2.3294
18948  10/24/2013 2:25   0h 41m  187,332.84 267,731,249   0.00000502 0.40337190   1,345   107,995,263 0.0000124542 2.3331
18947  10/24/2013 1:43   0h 40m  187,984.87 267,731,249   0.00000461 0.40101584   1,235   107,364,471 0.0000115029 2.1624
18946  10/24/2013 1:02   0h 41m  186,340.49 267,731,249   0.00000495 0.40091102   1,326   107,336,409 0.0000123537 2.3020
18945  10/24/2013 0:20   0h 41m  187,377.36 267,731,249   0.00000465 0.40183825   1,246   107,584,656 0.0000115816 2.1701
18944 10/23/2013 23:39   0h 42m  182,619.49 267,731,249   0.00000464 0.40116362   1,241   107,404,036 0.0000115545 2.1101
18943 10/23/2013 22:56   0h 42m  182,848.92 267,731,249   0.00000489 0.40166762   1,308   107,538,974 0.0000121630 2.2240
18942 10/23/2013 22:14   0h 41m  186,041.04 267,731,249   0.00000454 0.40382612   1,216   108,116,872 0.0000112471 2.0924
18941 10/23/2013 21:32   0h 41m  185,877.88 267,731,249   0.00000501 0.40347196   1,341   108,022,052 0.0000124141 2.3075
18940 10/23/2013 20:50   0h 41m  184,525.07 267,731,249   0.00000483 0.40181929   1,294   107,579,581 0.0000120283 2.2195
18939 10/23/2013 20:08   0h 41m  187,276.17 267,731,249   0.00000481 0.40145836   1,288   107,482,948 0.0000119833 2.2442
18938 10/23/2013 19:26   0h 42m  183,265.94 267,731,249   0.00000479 0.40433683   1,283   108,253,605 0.0000118518 2.1720
18937 10/23/2013 18:44   0h 42m  183,798.82 267,731,249   0.00000486 0.40343460   1,301   108,012,049 0.0000120450 2.2138
18936 10/23/2013 18:01   0h 42m  183,698.71 267,731,249   0.00000472 0.40401361   1,264   108,167,069 0.0000116856 2.1466
18935 10/23/2013 17:19   0h 42m  182,855.88 267,731,249   0.00000496 0.40311408   1,329   107,926,237 0.0000123140 2.2517
18934 10/23/2013 16:36   0h 42m  183,825.20 267,731,249   0.00000505 0.40397210   1,351   108,155,954 0.0000124912 2.2962
18933 10/23/2013 15:54   0h 43m  179,528.50 267,731,249   0.00000525 0.40374113   1,406   108,094,118 0.0000130072 2.3352
18932 10/23/2013 15:10   0h 43m  179,000.77 267,731,249   0.00000526 0.40379965   1,409   108,109,784 0.0000130330 2.3329
                                                                                                                   ------
                                                                                                                   2.2246

and according to cgminer:

Code:

Summary of runtime statistics:

 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Started at [2013-10-23 04:42:38]
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Pool: stratum+tcp://mint.bitminter.com:3333
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Runtime: 16 hrs : 51 mins : 14 secs
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Average hashrate: 2231.9 Megahash/s
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Solved blocks: 0
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Best share difficulty: 29.9K
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Share submissions: 31528
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Accepted shares: 31296
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Rejected shares: 232
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Accepted difficulty shares: 31296
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Rejected difficulty shares: 232
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Reject ratio: 0.7%
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Hardware errors: 0
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Utility (accepted shares / min): 30.95/min
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Work Utility (diff1 shares solved / min): 31.18/min

 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Stale submissions discarded due to new blocks: 0
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Unable to get work from server occasions: 0
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Work items generated locally: 51412
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Submitting work remotely delay occasions: 0
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] New blocks detected on network: 160

 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] Summary of per device statistics:

 [2013-10-23 21:33:52] BITFURY0 (5s):3.107G (avg):2.231Gh/s | A:31296 R:232 HW:0 WU:31.2/m
 [2013-10-23 21:33:52]

I've restarted the exact same test and same device at 53 bits and will post the statistics in 10-12 hrs.

[vs3]

Here are the same stats running at 53 bits for about a day:

Code:

 No.     Completed     Duration Total Ghps  Difficulty  Your score  Total score Your work Total work     My %      My GH
18985  10/25/2013 3:44   0h 40m  192,559.21 267,731,249   0.00000456 0.40307092   1,220   107,914,681 0.0000113052 2.1769
18984  10/25/2013 3:03   0h 40m  191,228.66 267,731,249   0.00000446 0.40011946   1,193   107,124,483 0.0000111366 2.1296
18983  10/25/2013 2:23   0h 40m  190,384.85 267,731,249   0.00000446 0.40315534   1,194   107,937,284 0.0000110620 2.1060
18982  10/25/2013 1:42   0h 40m  188,139.84 267,731,249   0.00000436 0.40200088   1,166   107,628,198 0.0000108336 2.0382
18981  10/25/2013 1:01   0h 41m  186,461.62 267,731,249   0.00000479  0.4031175   1,282   107,927,152 0.0000118784 2.2149
18980  10/25/2013 0:19   0h 40m  189,475.87 267,731,249   0.00000441 0.40139529   1,180   107,466,063 0.0000109802 2.0805
18979 10/24/2013 23:38   0h 40m  190,490.06 267,731,249   0.00000467 0.40387512   1,250   108,129,990 0.0000115602 2.2021
18978 10/24/2013 22:57   0h 41m  186,994.80 267,731,249   0.00000452 0.40101782   1,211   107,365,003 0.0000112793 2.1092
18977 10/24/2013 22:16   0h 41m  188,263.32 267,731,249   0.00000484 0.40406566   1,296   108,181,003 0.0000119799 2.2554
18976 10/24/2013 21:34   0h 40m  187,644.43 267,731,249   0.00000452 0.40012641   1,209   107,126,343 0.0000112857 2.1177
18975 10/24/2013 20:53   0h 41m  188,295.79 267,731,249   0.00000436 0.40397159   1,167   108,155,818 0.0000107900 2.0317
18974 10/24/2013 20:12   0h 40m  188,937.12 267,731,249   0.00000454 0.40008967   1,216   107,116,507 0.0000113521 2.1448
18973 10/24/2013 19:31   0h 40m  190,594.11 267,731,249   0.00000458 0.40376422   1,226   108,100,299 0.0000113413 2.1616
18972 10/24/2013 18:50   0h 40m  188,682.02 267,731,249   0.00000449 0.40250302   1,202   107,762,636 0.0000111541 2.1046
18971 10/24/2013 18:09   0h 40m  189,075.18 267,731,249   0.00000437 0.40054645   1,170   107,238,802 0.0000109102 2.0629
18970 10/24/2013 17:28   0h 40m  191,763.14 267,731,249   0.00000453 0.40090427   1,212   107,334,600 0.0000112918 2.1653
18969 10/24/2013 16:47   0h 40m  189,429.14 267,731,249   0.00000467 0.40063734   1,251   107,263,135 0.0000116629 2.2093
18968 10/24/2013 16:06   0h 40m  189,140.87 267,731,249   0.00000461 0.40068561   1,233   107,276,058 0.0000114937 2.1739
18967 10/24/2013 15:25   0h 40m  187,813.82 267,731,249   0.00000462 0.40097759   1,236   107,354,232 0.0000115133 2.1624
18966 10/24/2013 14:44   0h 40m  190,044.65 267,731,249   0.00000458 0.40226968   1,225   107,700,164 0.0000113742 2.1616
                                                                                                                   ------
                                                                                                                   2.1404                                                                                                                  

Code:

Summary of runtime statistics:

 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Started at [2013-10-23 21:34:17]
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Pool: stratum+tcp://mint.bitminter.com:3333
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Runtime: 23 hrs : 21 mins : 1 secs
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Average hashrate: 2150.4 Megahash/s
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Solved blocks: 0
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Best share difficulty: 33K
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Share submissions: 42056
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Accepted shares: 41721
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Rejected shares: 335
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Accepted difficulty shares: 41751
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Rejected difficulty shares: 335
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Reject ratio: 0.8%
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Hardware errors: 0
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Utility (accepted shares / min): 29.78/min
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Work Utility (diff1 shares solved / min): 30.04/min

 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Stale submissions discarded due to new blocks: 0
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Unable to get work from server occasions: 0
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Work items generated locally: 67460
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Submitting work remotely delay occasions: 0
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] New blocks detected on network: 215

 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] Summary of per device statistics:

 [2013-10-24 20:55:18] BITFURY0 (5s):2.447G (avg):2.150Gh/s | A:41751 R:335 HW:0 WU:30.0/m
 [2013-10-24 20:55:18]

Or in other words - the 1-bit difference was 2.224GH/s vs 2.14GH/s

[vs3]

And long live Luke-Jr and BFGMINER!!! :-)

two devices at 52 bits on one machine: (one is a bit overvoltaged - I think you can spot which one - the other is stock )

Code:

 bfgminer version 3.3.0 - Started: [2013-10-24 23:58:24] - [  0 days 00:24:49]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Connected to stratum.bitcoin.cz diff 3 with stratum as user vs3.nanofury2
 Block: ...46f41298 #265919  Diff:268M ( 1.92Ph/s)  Started: [23:58:24]
 ST:2  F:0  NB:1  AS:0  BW:[ 53/ 42 B/s]  E:22.83  I:  361uBTC/hr  BS:940
 2            |  2.13/ 4.50/ 4.45Gh/s | A:533 R:0+0(none) HW:16/.45%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 NFY 0:       |  2.22/ 2.24/ 2.19Gh/s | A:270 R:0+0(none) HW: 5/.52%
 NFY 1:       |  2.33/ 2.26/ 2.27Gh/s | A:263 R:0+0(none) HW:11/.38%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2013-10-25 00:22:55] Accepted 1883610d NFY 0  Diff 10/3

and at 54 bits another one on another machine: (that's the slightly undervoltaged one)

Code:

 bfgminer version 3.3.0 - Started: [2013-10-24 22:49:51] - [  0 days 01:38:00]
 [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options  [H]elp [Q]uit
 Connected to mint.bitminter.com diff 1 with stratum as user vs3_nanofury1
 Block: ...c330b15f #265920  Diff:268M ( 1.92Ph/s)  Started: [00:24:25]
 ST:2  F:0  NB:15  AS:0  BW:[ 60/ 67 B/s]  E:8.84  I:  185uBTC/hr  BS:2.35k
 1            |  2.43/ 2.43/ 2.37Gh/s | A:3152 R:9+0(.31%) HW:48/1.5%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 NFY 0:       |  2.44/ 2.43/ 2.37Gh/s | A:3154 R:9+0(.31%) HW:48/1.5%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [2013-10-25 00:26:58] Accepted 304192a6 NFY 0  Diff 5/1
 [2013-10-25 00:26:59] Accepted 88ee8e60 NFY 0  Diff 1/1
 [2013-10-25 00:26:59] Accepted 58d55f6a NFY 0  Diff 2/1
 [2013-10-25 00:27:00] Accepted dfafe7fd NFY 0  Diff 1/1
 [2013-10-25 00:27:00] Accepted 060a55c0 NFY 0  Diff 42/1

I'll leave that one run overnight and post the average from bitminter tomorrow.

[erk]

How is the production coming along, any eta?

[vs3]

How is the production coming along, any eta?

When I spoke with Marto a few days ago he mentioned that he expects the first devices today or Monday.