Landmark Event For Bitcoin: First Full & Independent Wallet

[genjix]

This is the first time we have a completely independent and full Bitcoin software stack.

Before we had clients like Electrum using bitcoind as a backend, or MultiBit which do full block validation (they assume a transaction is trusted once it gets deep in the blockchain).



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291576

It doesn't look much yet. Still terminal based, but adding the GUI is easy. And it's an experimental prototype.

It's the pre-alpha proof of concept.

To protect the integrity of the network with no single point of failure, it's vital to diversify the software development process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Microsoft_antitrust_case

A standard controlled & set by a single party is disastrous for a neutral Bitcoin.

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[VinceSamios]

Please don't do any more media appearances - this kind of work is better. - we appreciate this kind of work. Thank you Amir.

[oleganza]

Amir, I have paid for two tickets to Unsystem conference in Vienna and received 0 feedback from you on what's happening about it. It would have been nice to receive a personal response from you, or all your work will be marked as highly suspicious in my eyes. Refund, for one thing, is welcome.

[genjix]

Amir, I have paid for two tickets to Unsystem conference in Vienna and received 0 feedback from you on what's happening about it. It would have been nice to receive a personal response from you, or all your work will be marked as highly suspicious in my eyes. Refund, for one thing, is welcome.

This is the only email I have from you:

Hi,

I cannot find where to purchase tickets. Are they sold out?

There was a link in March: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154149.0

But now it does not point to a ticket sale.

Is conference cancelled or what?

My email: amir@unsystem.net

Please don't do any more media appearances - this kind of work is better. - we appreciate this kind of work. Thank you Amir.

I am a squatter and anarchist. I'm not your yuppie making toy apps. I build tools for the people. If I don't conform to your vision of how Bitcoin should look like, then that's your problem.

[Alpaca Bob]

You rock Amir, both your coding work as well as your media appearances. Thank you and keep up the good work.


To VinceSamios.

[Patel]

Legittttt

Man I really need to learn how to code so I can contribute something to Bitcoin rather than leeching.

Soon.

[btcven]

I hope to get more info about this in Barcelona!

[crazy_rabbit]

Keep up the good work man!!! This is great!

Quick questions: What sort of minimum system resources does this require?

[Meni Rosenfeld]

Legittttt

Man I really need to learn how to code so I can contribute something to Bitcoin rather than leeching.

Soon.

The King and the Fireman much?

Contribute to Bitcoin doing what you do best. If your calling in life was to be a software developer you would have been one already.

[Tomatocage]

IFL

[jgarzik]

Great to see more wallets out there!

Curious:  What is an independent and full software stack?

bitcoinj is 100% independent of bitcoind codebase, and has been deployed in the field through multibit and Bitcoin Wallet for a while.

[Carlton Banks]

Great to see more wallets out there!

Curious:  What is an independent and full software stack?

bitcoinj is 100% independent of bitcoind codebase, and has been deployed in the field through multibit and Bitcoin Wallet for a while.

I thought bitcoinj depends on full nodes, does it not?

[Kevlar]

Great to see more wallets out there!

Curious:  What is an independent and full software stack?

bitcoinj is 100% independent of bitcoind codebase, and has been deployed in the field through multibit and Bitcoin Wallet for a while.

I thought bitcoinj depends on full nodes, does it not?

It does. It won't act as a full peer, and most of the blockchain strategies don't store the full blockchain anyway. It does do transaction verification and it relies on full peers for it's own blockchain download.

[mikegogulski]

Amir,

Is this a full client node?

Are regular (non-"deterministic") wallets supported?

[btcven]

Amir,

Is this a full client node?

Are regular (non-"deterministic") wallets supported?

Check this out http://bitcoinmagazine.com/what-libbitcoin-and-sx-are-and-why-they-matter/

Also

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291576

[kcirazy]

I like the fact that you used the AGPL license. This will make it illegal for people to run their custom builds of the software without publishing the changes.
Are you going to build your own Bitcoin Foundation around this software? Or are you aiming to have it supported like the Bitcoin-QT client?

[Carlton Banks]

Can this client build Block templates and accept/propagate block solutions on the network? Does it have a name yet? (I thought sx was the name of your toolset?)

[gmaxwell]

Very cool.

Though I'll repeat what I've told alternative implementers,

_Please_ do not mine on this until it at least passes the block tester. Inconsistencies in block validation can result in devastating forks which would be harmful to all Bitcoin users and not just the users of the inconsistent software. This is more of a risk today than it ever was since a majority of mining is just in three hands and so many people use SPV wallets.

[acoindr]

... Inconsistencies in block validation can result in devastating forks which would be harmful to all Bitcoin users and not just the users of the inconsistent software. This is more of a risk today than it ever was since a majority of mining is just in three hands and so many people use SPV wallets.

I agree.

However, I'll note this highlights what I've said before about economic dependence solely on Bitcoin being risky. The last sentence above doesn't currently pertain to Litecoin, for example.

[RodeoX]

I think it is great to have another client development line. Thanks Amir!!