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September 10, 2013, 03:41:24 PM
Last edit: November 05, 2013, 10:07:39 AM by BTCguide
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UPDATE 5/11/2011

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AljXEOuLsvIqdFRuSlV1eTFjWWhhaUI0ODhHOUV4X3c#gid=0

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Hello guys,


I have made a google doc with the comparison between the Bitcoin mining assets.

You can find it here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AljXEOuLsvIqdFRuSlV1eTFjWWhhaUI0ODhHOUV4X3c#gid=0

Can you guys help me complete (correct) it?


Much appreciated!
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September 10, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
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Although this is extremely useful now, this would be mega useful if it included dividend information.
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September 10, 2013, 05:03:28 PM
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What does Mh/btc stands for?

Edit, i got it ...

 megash/btc ... the higher it is  , higher is the efficiency?
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September 10, 2013, 05:06:29 PM
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What does Mh/btc stands for?

Edit, i got it ...

 megash/btc ... the higher it is  , higher is the efficiency?

Yes.

But that's a too simple analysis. Some of the companies listed in the spreadsheet also sell hardware, the profits of which are distributed to investors as well. Furthermore, future hashrates are just a prediction and the actual results may vary wildly.
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September 10, 2013, 05:17:11 PM
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Useful sheet. Could you add the market cap next to the share price?
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September 10, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
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Useful sheet. Could you add the market cap next to the share price?

What is the value of a market cap addition?

Share volatility?
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September 10, 2013, 05:39:51 PM
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Nice work, it's simple and easy to interpret.

My only critique would be that dividends must be included in some form to make reasonable comparisons as it's a crucial component when choosing between mining assets. It doesn't matter what a particular company's hash rate is if they're keeping all the funds and the share price is not appreciating(or is declining) as share holders would be unable to unlock that increased value anyway.

I'd suggest, rather than getting into the weeds attempting to project forward dividends or APY which is obviously dependent on many factors, you instead offer a simple indicator of what portion of mining revenue is paid out as dividends. ie xx% of hashes are dispersed as dividends. bASIC-Mining pays out 70% of mining revenue on a daily basis.

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September 10, 2013, 05:43:50 PM
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In good times when blades was for 75BTC sales of hardware triples mining. Now it not even doubles. It's clearly visible that AM is now over valuated.

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September 10, 2013, 05:48:25 PM
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In good times when blades was for 75BTC sales of hardware triples mining. Now it not even doubles. It's clearly visible that AM is now over valuated.

I normally would not respond to FUD as this, especially in a thread where it should not even be, but FC stated clearly that much of the current HW sales profits were being diverted to GEN2 products. Those profits are still outpacing mining revenue, we simply are not seeing them in the dividends at the moment.
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September 10, 2013, 05:50:25 PM
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You're missing the funniest one, ActiveMining.

yeah, 6 avalons

but Ken promised 4 TH in half of August Smiley

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September 10, 2013, 06:20:04 PM
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I have added the dividend/reinvestment policy.

You guys have to help me out a little, because I did not follow all asset threads.
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September 10, 2013, 06:25:26 PM
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RSM's dividend history is empty. I don't recall their contract, but I don't believe it's 100%. I think they're focused on growth.

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September 10, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
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RSM's dividend history is empty. I don't recall their contract, but I don't believe it's 100%. I think they're focused on growth.

RSM has 90% reinvestment, but first dividend will be 100% paid.

There's also Nasty Fans, hashing at 420 GH/s as of right now - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0
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September 10, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
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RSM's dividend history is empty. I don't recall their contract, but I don't believe it's 100%. I think they're focused on growth.

RSM has 90% reinvestment, but first dividend will be 100% paid.

There's also Nasty Fans, hashing at 420 GH/s as of right now - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0

From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63257.0
Two 400(GH/s)@28nm KNC Jupiters be added for 80,000 shares by October

So Dilution will stop at the moment dividends can pay for reinvestements?


Nasty Fans : I will look into this
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September 10, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
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RSM's dividend history is empty. I don't recall their contract, but I don't believe it's 100%. I think they're focused on growth.

RSM has 90% reinvestment, but first dividend will be 100% paid.

There's also Nasty Fans, hashing at 420 GH/s as of right now - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0

From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63257.0
Two 400(GH/s)@28nm KNC Jupiters be added for 80,000 shares by October

So Dilution will stop at the moment dividends can pay for reinvestements?


Nasty Fans : I will look into this

Dilution was used only at the beginning, because there was no actual hashing until week ago. So no reinvestment fund. Fund should be estabilished in about 3 weeks
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September 10, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
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There's also Nasty Fans, hashing at 420 GH/s as of right now - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.0

IMO Nasty Fans is not an asset and can not be added
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September 11, 2013, 08:21:10 AM
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I have added Activemining to the list.

Do they have concrete dates and capacities for future deployments?

I suppose the Avalon chip orders will not be deployed.
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November 05, 2013, 10:16:19 AM
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UPDATE 5/11/2011

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AljXEOuLsvIqdFRuSlV1eTFjWWhhaUI0ODhHOUV4X3c#gid=0


Hope you guys can add/correct some assets.
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November 05, 2013, 04:36:39 PM
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I dont see ADDICTION in the list Smiley

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November 05, 2013, 04:51:28 PM
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Not that this makes any difference, but Active Mining is *reinvesting* 50% of the divs.  Make sure to swallow all the coffee before looking here.
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