Wanting Merit in your quality post is treated as a CRIME ??

[cryptorampage]

Peoples are busy with their work, they login Bitcoin talk for a certain period. It's normal to forget to give merit. Some of them are generous and hard working , they find useful content through browsing. I know it's hard to monitor. Now my question is , if I give so much effort and try to write useful article  to improve the quality of our forum, then wanting merit with in the post.

After a long post I used to write -

 " if you like this , just commend me a MERIT point , it will boost my passion to research more."  

I am also giving an example of my post >>
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2906256.msg29885924#msg29885924



NB:
1. I am new on this society, I saw peoples are getting merits by spamming. I saw a post , he got 30 Merits for one post (3 Line) .
2. I will not buy any merit from any one.
3. I have not messaged some one to give merit.



Will it be treated as a CRIME ? I am again saying that is not begging.

Why ?

I was posting a lot from the first, but after the merit point system added , it seems a very hard journey to get level up. That's why I have decided to write post more constructively. Give more time to write one. Now please answer my question . I am expecting answer from the senior members. If it is a CRIME I will not do that ( I have done it may be in 5 quality posts ) . If you say stop I will stop demanding on quality post also.

In Theymos post , there i  saw-

Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.

• 1. It's also a good Idea . If no one is recommending or collect our post what we will do ?
• 2. Am i capable and ranked enough to get this service , and be a merit source ? I want to help people.

Hopefully you guys who understand what I want to deliver. Thank you.

[Thirio]

Peoples are busy with their work, they login Bitcoin talk for a certain period. It's normal to forget to give merit. Some of them are generous and hard working , they find useful content through browsing. I know it's hard to monitor. Now my question is , if I give so much effort and try to write useful article  to improve the quality of our forum, then wanting merit with in the post.

After a long post I used to write -

 " if you like this , just commend me a MERIT point , it will boost my passion to research more."  

I am also giving an example of my post >>
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2906256.msg29885924#msg29885924



NB:
1. I am new on this society, I saw peoples are getting merits by spamming. I saw a post , he got 30 Merits for one post (3 Line) .
2. I will not buy any merit from any one.
3. I have not messaged some one to give merit.



Will it be treated as a CRIME ? I am again saying that is not begging.

Why ?

I was posting a lot from the first, but after the merit point system added , it seems a very hard journey to get level up. That's why I have decided to write post more constructively. Give more time to write one. Now please answer my question . I am expecting answer from the senior members. If it is a CRIME I will not do that ( I have done it may be in 5 quality posts ) . If you say stop I will stop demanding on quality post also.

In Theymos post , there i  saw-

Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.

• 1. It's also a good Idea . If no one is recommending or collect our post what we will do ?
• 2. Am i capable and ranked enough to get this service , and be a merit source ? I want to help people.

Hopefully you guys who understand what I want to deliver. Thank you.

These kind of phrase can be come off as begging to some but some don't really see it as one. Personally, i don't see it as begging especially if your post was well made.

Also, to become a merit source you need to become an established member. And i think this can be seen through rank, although i'm a member i don't consider myself as an established member(i still have a lot to learn).

[cryptorampage]

Yes I think too. But to be the merit source we have to be after member ?

[TheUltraElite]

Yes I think too. But to be the merit source we have to be after member ?

You are not going to become a merit source simply without contributing anything to the forum. You should work your way in the forum and forget about merit for now. You are still new to the forum and should learn about the forum, how it works and start to participate in the discussions.

Dont chase after merit - chase the quality of content that you contribute. Merit will come on its own.

About merit sources, theymos has selected some members to be merit sources. They are old and reputable here but thats not the criteria for becoming a merit source. In fact nobody will become a merit source for now unless they show substantial ability to segregate a "merit-able" post and a shitpost.

Check this link for a lot of other info related to merit. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats

[magneto]

I don't think that this post should deserve any kind of hate or anything like that. I personally believe that your post was pretty well researched and written as well. Obviously you have put a lot of effort into writing that.

But others might not feel the same way. I get where they're coming from, since they assume that you're begging for merits.

It's fine to promote your post for merits to a certain degree, and I think you're in the safe zone at the moment. Who even said that it was a "crime" to do this?

You're not ranked enough or trusted enough to be a merit source at the moment. I'd say the minimum requirement would be at least 100 earned merits, at least some sort of trust and/or a full member.

[evdokimo]

If you have to write that the last of the post, it certainly means that you are asking for it. Not needed, if you really make quality posts.

[jbkg111816]

To gain a merit we must work hard on it, make sure our post are a quality one and worth deserving of someones merit.

[cryptorampage]

Thank you guys , i got my answer , I was just to conscious about the Merit factor. And wanting merit in deserved post is crime or not. It seems it is not crime. But certainly i will not run after merit . I will just deliver good post as per my ability. That's all.

[Vod]

Thank you guys , i got my answer , I was just to conscious about the Merit factor. And wanting merit in deserved post is crime or not. It seems it is not crime. But certainly i will not run after merit . I will just deliver good post as per my ability. That's all.

You (and everyone else) should do that.  Wanting merit is not a CRIME, obviously.  But if you ask for merit, you may get negative trust from DT.   

[Jet Cash]

Begging is so demeaning. Wanting money is a natural desire for many, but standing on the street corner asking people to give you money is not the best way to get it in my opinion. It doesn't do much for your image or reputation either. Merit is much the same.

[Cobalt9317]

You will improve on posting helpful article, however asking someone to give oneself merit is like a curse.

Similarly it is like asking for a small donation to a non-profit government.

In reality community member don't care what you post whether it is constructive or shitpost, The bottom line is if you can established yourself to become a natural member doing a normal post.

[jseverson]

I personally think that adding such a phrase at the end of posts is fine for as long as it doesn't come across as spammy. The thing is though, that already goes without saying. That's how the system works; post something useful and get merit for it.

It may get frustrating if you feel like your useful posts get ignored, but that's just how things currently are, and actually asking for merit at the end of your posts may turn off other users because it might look to them that the only reason you're posting is to get merit.

[cryptorampage]

Ok thanks guys , I hope I could follow all the advise you all have given.

[LeGaulois]

To be honest, if you feel you give so much effort to post in the forum it means you are not doing it naturally and you're "forcing" yourself to comment. Don't try to write a useful post to improve the quality of our forum, it's not the purpose. Try to post your comments in topics you're interested in, interacting with the community etc. Keep in mind it's a forum community, not a blog.

If you post to write at the end " if you like this , just commend me a MERIT point , it will boost my passion to research more." You will get the opposite result

[Tyrantt]

To be honest, if you feel you give so much effort to post in the forum it means you are not doing it naturally and you're "forcing" yourself to comment. Don't try to write a useful post to improve the quality of our forum, it's not the purpose. Try to post your comments in topics you're interested in, interacting with the community etc. Keep in mind it's a forum community, not a blog.

If you post to write at the end " if you like this , just commend me a MERIT point , it will boost my passion to research more." You will get the opposite result

True, just like with money in life. If you're doing something just for the sake of money, that's the only thing that you wont be seeing coming in.
Someone gave a nice guideline about posts but the most important one is stick to the topics you know, forcing yourself to write quality posts in the topics you don't know will look very forced.

Keep in mind it's a forum community, not a blog.

This is very, very true. I see a lot of people writing posts like they're taking a job interview with microsoft, and it's usually the lower tanks. Don't force yourself to write like that, write as you're speaking to your friend.

[LoyceV]

I personally think that adding such a phrase at the end of posts is fine for as long as it doesn't come across as spammy. The thing is though, that already goes without saying. That's how the system works; post something useful and get merit for it.

Because it goes without saying anybody would want Merit, I think it shouldn't be asked for. In the end there are two possibilities:
1. people asking for Merit get more Merit than people who don't ask for it.
2. everybody adds a "please Merit me" to all posts to be part of #1.
3. people who deserve Merit won't get it because they ask for it (this is what I follow)
In my opinion, all three are undesirable. Let forum users decide who to Merit on their own.


Some other thoughts:

" if you like this , just commend me a MERIT point , it will boost my passion to research more."  [/color]

Merits aren't the same as "likes", it's not meant to be given for posts you like, or even agree with. It's meant to highlight good posts.

NB:
1. I am new on this society, I saw peoples are getting merits by spamming. I saw a post , he got 30 Merits for one post (3 Line) .

It could be someone's alt-account. Theymos assumes this will eventually end once spammers run out of sMerit, and the amount they can give is small compared to the total amount that will be around.

Will it be treated as a CRIME ? I am again saying that is not begging.

I wouldn't do it. Note that I've never asked for any, and yet I got them. Even for posts I made before the Merit system existed.

2. Am i capable and ranked enough to get this service , and be a merit source ? I want to help people.

Since you just joined the forum last month, I don't think you'll qualify as a "somewhat established member". (I've been waiting for a response to my Merit source application for 12 days.)

[Jet Cash]

Of course it isn't a crime, but it can lead to misunderstandings about your motives. This forum has fallen victim to a disease know as signature  spamming, and many new members see this as a means of picking up easy money. Unfortunately they pollute the boards, and diminish their usefulness. Begging for merit ( or asking for it ) is taken to be a desire to increase rank, and thus to obtain higher payments for posting, and many of us would like to see the signature campaigns reduced, or even removed, so anyone who is perceived or thought to be attempting to increase the sig spamming will tend to be disadvantaged.

The best approach is to forget about merits, and try to be a contributing member of the forum. It is an information, help and discussion site, and not an employment exchange or revenue generator in my opinion.

[Regana]

It's all in the actual word. Merit - Something that deserves or justifies a reward or commendation; a commendable quality, act, etc.: . Although some may think their posts deserve to be merited ultimately is the community who decides whether or not it is going to happen. Consistent contributions to the community will result in a merited account and this is how it's supposed to work.

[owlcatz]

It's all in the actual word. Merit - Something that deserves or justifies a reward or commendation; a commendable quality, act, etc.: . Although some may think their posts deserve to be merited ultimately is the community who decides whether or not it is going to happen. Consistent contributions to the community will result in a merited account and this is how it's supposed to work.

Well done!

[Joel_Jantsen]

It's all in the actual word. Merit - Something that deserves or justifies a reward or commendation; a commendable quality, act, etc.: . Although some may think their posts deserve to be merited ultimately is the community who decides whether or not it is going to happen. Consistent contributions to the community will result in a merited account and this is how it's supposed to work.

Yes primitively,it is suppose to work that way but it ISN'T. It has become more like  "It's my merit,I do whatever I want with it because the quality of posts is subjective."Look around the forum,you will find same people meriting same accounts most of the time.Definitely not going the way the system is intended to be.