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February 14, 2018, 02:49:04 PM
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Even real companies stocks rise and fall due manipulations. BTC and other cryptos are easier for manipulation.

Well I agree with you, even the existing big companies there are manipulations. We cannot avoid that. Ups and downs are needed for the stability of bitcoin.
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February 14, 2018, 04:55:03 PM
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If I have enough money and can manipulate a market, I would do it as well. We cannot help it for now, it is easy money for them, no one can resist that. I just hope someday it will be harder for them to do it as marketcap of bitcoin rise.
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February 14, 2018, 05:00:56 PM
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the manipulation from whales occur at the most of the time, we as small investors could just take advantage behind them, so if we manage to sell at top an d buy at dip when they manipulate it it would be the best thing to do.

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February 14, 2018, 05:15:10 PM
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Manipulation will only get worse now that stock traders and brokers are getting in on the crypto market.

These brokers and the companies they work for have been manipulating markets for decades, now that they are trading in crypto you can guarantee that they will be trying their cr@p on the crypto market as well.
Grab your ankles and prepare to get fucked by the man! 

Crypto Whales are manipulating the price and you are gonna get ripped off.  Don't put your hard earned money into that rat hole.  RUN!

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February 15, 2018, 03:28:13 AM
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I am suspecting that Crypto Whales are manipulating Bitcoin price this early year because they want to get more Bitcoin before it will take off to the moon again.
These Crypto Whales had been around since Bitcoin rises like a skyrocket last year and this early days of the year seems they just want to drive Bitcoin to the ground because when the Crypto Market recovers they will earn Millions and Billions Crypto worth of assets in the next few months.

How you guys think about this roller-coaster ride of Crypto Market this early year?
Do really Crypto Whales are manipulating everything behind our back?

This is funny, China is the country holding the bigger amount of crypto, and of course BTC. Even it is estimated that at least the 30% of mining resides in china.
But… why, then, they have been banning BTC from the last months?
Well, of we make a tiny investigation, we can find how the Chinese central bank (People´s central Bank) has been researching about blockchain at least from 2014. Since they want to create a digital Yuan, I believe they needed to cut off BTC investments in order to convince the great industries to invest in the new  Digital Yuan.
Meantime, the still hold a big amount of BTC - and getting more and more by creating whales and lowing its price- and they have earned billions by mining and by trading…
so… whats next?? Is BTC going to be the “support” of Digital Yuan?

I believe this recently speculation, the dramatic changes in the BTC price,  its “falling”, is directly influenced by China. Since they have the biggest power of mining, as well as the bigger amount of BTC, they can do “whatever they want” with it. Now, is that related (the banning) with the new digital chinese coin? I don’t know, but maybe. But, anyway, it is funny that  China still holds the biggest amount of BTC and at the same time they created a new chinese Crypto directly based on Blockchain…

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February 15, 2018, 05:27:20 PM
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Even real companies stocks rise and fall due manipulations. BTC and other cryptos are easier for manipulation.

Well I agree with you, even the existing big companies there are manipulations. We cannot avoid that. Ups and downs are needed for the stability of bitcoin.

I agree, in fact big companies are the biggest manipulators today.
Let's take a look on the announcement for Ripple partnership of Big Companies like Western-Union and Middle East Countries like UAE and Saudi Arabia.
These announcements will cause surge of price value of Ripple in the next few days and Ripple might be overtake Ethereum as the second strongest Cryptocurrency in the market again.
Not only large volume of money are manipulating Cryptocurrency today but also the announcements of Big Companies and even celebrities tweets could make a momentum of the Crypto Market.

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February 15, 2018, 05:31:40 PM
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Manipulation will only get worse now that stock traders and brokers are getting in on the crypto market.

These brokers and the companies they work for have been manipulating markets for decades, now that they are trading in crypto you can guarantee that they will be trying their cr@p on the crypto market as well.
Grab your ankles and prepare to get fucked by the man! 

Crypto Whales are manipulating the price and you are gonna get ripped off.  Don't put your hard earned money into that rat hole.  RUN!

LoL! Yeah! It's the best clever move that everytime we get huge profits out of Cryptocurrencies we should transfer them into our own pocket, who knows! Cryptocurrency volatility is very high and there's numbers of event's that Crypto Market had crashed "Mega Dip".
What if they will not recover? What if all the money will fall on Big Companies' pockets and vaults!?
We can't say it's totally safe and our assets are secured.. Who knows!
I'd say, 50% of my Crypto Assets are on my digital wallet and the other half is in my pocket. Digital and real wallet.

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February 15, 2018, 09:37:41 PM
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yes because there are so many people and companies that hold too much bitcoin so they start to manipulate the price, and the more new coins emerging in the market, so that the price of the other coins will fall. And because there are some countries that forbid bitcoin like china and korea north makes the price worse off.
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February 15, 2018, 11:35:34 PM
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We could not totally blame them for the price decline.Manipulation is not as much easy as it was before when chinese manipulated the bitcoin market by just dumping their coins.But what could be said is that they just enjoy a price decline by further spreading FUD and adding fuel to the fire and not creating fire by themselves.

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February 15, 2018, 11:49:09 PM
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Even real companies stocks rise and fall due manipulations. BTC and other cryptos are easier for manipulation.

Well I agree with you, even the existing big companies there are manipulations. We cannot avoid that. Ups and downs are needed for the stability of bitcoin.

I agree, in fact big companies are the biggest manipulators today.
Let's take a look on the announcement for Ripple partnership of Big Companies like Western-Union and Middle East Countries like UAE and Saudi Arabia.
These announcements will cause surge of price value of Ripple in the next few days and Ripple might be overtake Ethereum as the second strongest Cryptocurrency in the market again.
Not only large volume of money are manipulating Cryptocurrency today but also the announcements of Big Companies and even celebrities tweets could make a momentum of the Crypto Market.
Manipulators could not be stopped, all we need to do is be strong and control emotions behinds those affecting news. Personally with myself I wasn't able to be move on that time when btc price at dropping stage, and sadly it wasn't easy for me to maintain my patience during those challenging days. Those whales really did a huge impact with the market manipulations and the effect is with small investors who had panicked.
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February 16, 2018, 07:37:49 AM
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Even real companies stocks rise and fall due manipulations. BTC and other cryptos are easier for manipulation.

Well I agree with you, even the existing big companies there are manipulations. We cannot avoid that. Ups and downs are needed for the stability of bitcoin.

I agree, in fact big companies are the biggest manipulators today.
Let's take a look on the announcement for Ripple partnership of Big Companies like Western-Union and Middle East Countries like UAE and Saudi Arabia.
These announcements will cause surge of price value of Ripple in the next few days and Ripple might be overtake Ethereum as the second strongest Cryptocurrency in the market again.
Not only large volume of money are manipulating Cryptocurrency today but also the announcements of Big Companies and even celebrities tweets could make a momentum of the Crypto Market.
Manipulators could not be stopped, all we need to do is be strong and control emotions behinds those affecting news. Personally with myself I wasn't able to be move on that time when btc price at dropping stage, and sadly it wasn't easy for me to maintain my patience during those challenging days. Those whales really did a huge impact with the market manipulations and the effect is with small investors who had panicked.

It is because in the real world, they don't really care about the progress or the status of the Crypto Market, that's only beyond and away from their interests. All they want is to get as many as and as higher as their profits.
Money and profits is the only thing that drives into manipulation because investing money, time, effort to manipulate as certain thing could offer them more and higher income than just holding their Crypto Assets and doing nothing.

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February 16, 2018, 03:35:59 PM
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How can btc manipulation. You no need invest big money but we can earn big money
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February 16, 2018, 03:38:13 PM
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How can btc manipulation. You no need invest big money but we can earn big money

If you want to manipulate bitcoin you have to do it through other means, by controlling the media, things like that.
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February 16, 2018, 03:42:10 PM
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As reported by TechCrunch, their research calls attention to the potential risk of price manipulation and fraud withing cryptocurrencies. "If bitcoin wants to be taken seriously it probably shouldn't be this easy or legal to manipulate the markets," writes John Biggs for the publication. Bitcoin’s price may have been manipulated by traders seeking to shoot the price up with suspicious activity. New research found suspicious activity in the years-old transaction logs of the ill-fated Mt. Gox exchange, which went from handling 70 percent of all bitcoin transactions to declaring bankruptcy in 2014 after losing over 800,000 bitcoins. It appears a number of accounts automatically pushed the price up with bot-powered trades.
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February 16, 2018, 03:44:28 PM
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Yes cryptocurrencies markets are totally unregulated so it is really plausible that whales sit together and decide when the price will go up and when it will go down (they can just agree and open a 100X long/short on bitmex)

For us common people the only available strategy is HODL  Wink

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February 16, 2018, 03:54:30 PM
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For sure there is a lot of manipulation going on as there are people and companies that hold so many coins that they are able to do that.

On the other hand, the boom was fueled by a lot of new money entering the market. At one point early holders will cash out and this can cause an avalanche of sells as a result.

I do believe too. I think it is their startegry to manipulate so that when it booms again or bounce back they have many cyrptocurrency in their hands or bitcoins and it will make them richer than they are right now. it will benefit them more. this is also my opinion. that is why now that the price is cheaper they had an opportunity to invest in bitccoin.
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February 16, 2018, 04:01:30 PM
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I am suspecting that Crypto Whales are manipulating Bitcoin price this early year because they want to get more Bitcoin before it will take off to the moon again.
These Crypto Whales had been around since Bitcoin rises like a skyrocket last year and this early days of the year seems they just want to drive Bitcoin to the ground because when the Crypto Market recovers they will earn Millions and Billions Crypto worth of assets in the next few months.

How you guys think about this roller-coaster ride of Crypto Market this early year?
Do really Crypto Whales are manipulating everything behind our back?

I too think that these whales are affecting the pricing of bitcoins. They have so many bitcoins and they are so many whales out there that once they all made a huge dump of bitcoins, the price may probably crash or spike very hard. These whales can control the price bitcoins.

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February 17, 2018, 08:58:39 PM
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How can btc manipulation. You no need invest big money but we can earn big money

If you want to manipulate bitcoin you have to do it through other means, by controlling the media, things like that.
No, in principle you can control (manipulate) bitcoin price by throwing some large quantities into the market or buying it in large quantities, plus providing some FUD. It has been known in the past as "pump and dump" cycles and it was very common then.

Contrary to common thinking, you need only moderate amounts of bitcoin to be able to effectively change its price. That is why, and I said it earlier, we don't need to involve big sharks from Wall Street into this scheme.

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February 17, 2018, 09:01:18 PM
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I am suspecting that Crypto Whales are manipulating Bitcoin price this early year because they want to get more Bitcoin before it will take off to the moon again.
These Crypto Whales had been around since Bitcoin rises like a skyrocket last year and this early days of the year seems they just want to drive Bitcoin to the ground because when the Crypto Market recovers they will earn Millions and Billions Crypto worth of assets in the next few months.

How you guys think about this roller-coaster ride of Crypto Market this early year?
Do really Crypto Whales are manipulating everything behind our back?

I'm not sure if it's exactly manipulated, but it's possible. I guess it's been clear South Korean governmental people were trying to influence the price and it actually worked. I guess major problem is people buy into anything here...
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February 17, 2018, 09:23:51 PM
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There are a lot of reasons why Bitcoin price has declined so much. I also wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that "whales" tried to lower the price as much as they could which would allow them to buy Bitcoin for almost nothing! However, it is a matter of time now before Bitcoin gets back to "normal". A lot of people are afraid that Bitcoin failed and will collapse soon. That is obviously unreasonable, there is always a huge panic when we are in the middle of the correction.

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