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February 12, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
Last edit: February 12, 2018, 08:19:02 PM by chipr
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Hello, I am relatively new to the cryptocurrency scene and investing, but have done a lot of research in advance and know to proceed with caution.

I have questions regarding the best desktop wallets to use, and in some cases there are one or two recommended on the site of the coin/token that the wallet will be for.

Right now I would like a good desktop wallet for BTC that is also a stalking wallet if that is possible, I thought I was fairly sure they are available as I am already using one for another coin... that yes, it downloads a node of the blockchain, or acts as a node having downloaded the entire blockchain. (I can get that part fleshed out also: node, the entire blockchain, or a node that is part of the blockchain... almost got it).

Can someone, or more, recommend a staking wallet for BTC whether or not mining is possible isn't my concern for just the wallet, but I'm hoping staking is?

Thanks, and I do realize there are preferences but the OP had no mention whatsoever about staking; I could be incorrect.

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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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February 12, 2018, 06:42:48 PM
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Staking is for cryptocurrencies with POS (proof of stake) algorithm. Bitcoin is using POW (proof-of-work) protocol. You will hear about staking only with altcoins. There are some using "forging" or "harvesting" but you only get the transaction fees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-work_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake

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February 12, 2018, 07:33:15 PM
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For a bitcoin wallet you can choose between several types of wallets:

1) Desktop wallet
1.1) Full node (bitcoin core [1])
1.2) Lightweight wallet (e.g. electrum [2])

2) Mobile wallet (e.g. Mycelium)

3) Hardware wallet (e.g. ledger, trezor)

4) Paper wallet


Paper- and Hardware wallets are the safest options, since your private keys won't ever leave a safe "environment".
A paperwallet is basically for free, but can be quite demanding when using the first time. Where a hardware wallet is easy to use, but costs a few bucks (50$+).

Mobile and desktop wallets are roughly equally safe (You shouldn't store big amounts on them).
A fullnode wallet (BTC Core) downloads and processes the whole blockchain (150GB+).
A lightweight wallet does not need to download the whole blockchain. It uses an online service to communicate with a fullnode to get the current balance of all of your addresses.


[1] https://bitcoin.org/en/download
[2] https://electrum.org/#home

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February 12, 2018, 08:39:51 PM
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Staking is for cryptocurrencies with POS (proof of stake) algorithm. Bitcoin is using POW (proof-of-work) protocol. You will hear about staking only with altcoins. There are some using "forging" or "harvesting" but you only get the transaction fees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-work_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof-of-stake

Thank you for your reply. That makes it clearer and easier to remember, "Proof of Stake" (POS) coins that are able to stake.

The one coin I'm using a staking wallet with so far is a PoS, PoW combination x13 algorithm. It is a desktop wallet that requires downloading of the blockchain and I think I assumed, incorrectly, that most desktop wallets requiring downloading a significant amount of a coin's blockchain allowed some staking.

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February 12, 2018, 08:58:25 PM
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In technical terms, staking is the process that a cryptocurrency wallet uses to validate transactions in the network and award you with coins as rewards. The Bitcoin network doesn't use proof of stake as a consensus mechanism so there are no staking wallets for BTC.
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February 12, 2018, 09:24:25 PM
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Mobile and desktop wallets are roughly equally safe (You shouldn't store big amounts on them).
A fullnode wallet (BTC Core) downloads and processes the whole blockchain (150GB+).
A lightweight wallet does not need to download the whole blockchain. It uses an online service to communicate with a fullnode
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[1] https://bitcoin.org/en/download
[2] https://electrum.org/#home

Thank you for your feedback.

Since I'm clearer on which coins stake now, or at least only PoS or a hybrid of PoS, and therefore not BTC, I may not opt for the hardware wallet requiring the whole blockchain, or a fullnode wallet (I somehow associated that with gaining staking). The idea of a lightweight wallet may be more practical for my needs, and not necessarily a dedicated Bitcoin wallet as I had thought.

I may think about possibly using in combination with a paper wallet to send bitcoin I'm going to hodl in, leaving a smaller amount in a desktop wallet.

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