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September 14, 2013, 12:47:08 AM |
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What other complex calculations can Bitcoin hashing power be use for?
This is the official thread for super genius world wide to post in. I'm curious to know what other complex calculations can Bitcoin hashing power be use for?
List them in this thread with as much details information as you can.
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Come-from-Beyond
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September 14, 2013, 07:57:02 AM |
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I'm curious to know what other complex calculations can Bitcoin hashing power be use for?
Heating.
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Sukrim
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September 14, 2013, 08:02:35 AM |
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Mining other cryptocoins, as long as they use the same algorithm as Bitcoin and have similar header structures.
Other than that, there is a reason why it is called "Bitcoin mining algorithm" and not "generally applicable calculation".
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DannyHamilton
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September 16, 2013, 04:06:11 PM |
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I'm not certain what you mean by "Bitcoin hashing power".
Right now, the majority of bitcoin hashing power is supplied by ASIC.
In the past bitcoin hashing power was supplied by GPU chips, and before that it was supplied by CPU chips.
CPU chips and GPU chips have MANY other uses now that they aren't very useful for mining any longer.
If you are asking about ASIC, then you need to understand that ASIC is an acronym for Application Specific Integrated Chip
You should probably go learn what the word "specific" means if you are asking what else it can be used for.
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mrkent
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September 18, 2013, 01:25:11 AM |
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contrary to popular belief, bitcoin calculations are not "complex."
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September 18, 2013, 01:39:59 AM |
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contrary to popular belief, bitcoin calculations are not "complex."
"complex" is a relative term. Many people find that anything beyond A+B is "complex".
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September 18, 2013, 01:58:48 AM |
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ASICs essentially can not be used for anything else. While they do use SHA256, they don't use it in such a way that you can do something else with the hardware.
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September 18, 2013, 05:10:30 AM |
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I think there there will soon be a considerable amount of money to be made by someone who designs a service/system or what have you that is specifically meant to be used with ASICs that no longer make sense to mine with.
Could block erupters be used to encrypt / decrypt VOIP / SMS data somehow in a way that is meaningful?
I need to read more about this...
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September 18, 2013, 06:34:07 AM |
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They can't do anything else.
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DannyHamilton
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September 18, 2013, 10:41:22 AM |
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I think there there will soon be a considerable amount of money to be made by someone who designs a service/system or what have you that is specifically meant to be used with ASICs microwave ovens that no longer make sense to mine cook with.
Could block erupters microwave ovens be used to encrypt / decrypt VOIP / SMS data somehow in a way that is meaningful?
I need to read more about this...
Do you see now how the things you are saying don't make a lot of sense?
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September 18, 2013, 12:15:47 PM |
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I think there there will soon be a considerable amount of money to be made by someone who designs a service/system or what have you that is specifically meant to be used with ASICs microwave ovens that no longer make sense to mine cook with.
Could block erupters microwave ovens be used to encrypt / decrypt VOIP / SMS data somehow in a way that is meaningful?
I need to read more about this...
Do you see now how the things you are saying don't make a lot of sense? Love it. Such a brilliant yet simple way to put it. Surely now there cant be any more 'confusion' re ASICs.
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September 18, 2013, 12:47:56 PM |
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Microwave ovens can be used to destroy optical media very quickly. hehehe. Try it for about 2 seconds on a busted CD / DVD.
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September 18, 2013, 12:50:58 PM |
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Nothing else is my best guess!
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September 18, 2013, 01:25:10 PM |
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If its an FPGA, it might also be good for: - creating rainbow tables (pre-bruteforcing) - monte-carlo-simulations - some other bruteforcing stuff =) If its an ASIC, as my pre-posters already mentioned, its mainly producting heat. And its not only SHA256, its SHA256 twice
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September 18, 2013, 02:14:24 PM |
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Forgive me if I'm off base here, but could some of the miners be used to generate vanity addresses? I'm not certain if ASICs can still do this. I'm just imagining a very interesting scenario where rich egomaniacs post bounties in excess of 25+ BTC, hoping to momentarily redirect the hashpower of the network.
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Rannasha
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September 18, 2013, 02:15:51 PM |
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Forgive me if I'm off base here, but could some of the miners be used to generate vanity addresses? I'm not certain if ASICs can still do this. I'm just imagining a very interesting scenario where rich egomaniacs post bounties in excess of 25+ BTC, hoping to momentarily redirect the hashpower of the network.
No, address generation uses completely different algorithms than what is used for mining.
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September 18, 2013, 02:22:05 PM |
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contrary to popular belief, bitcoin calculations are not "complex."
"complex" is a relative term. Many people find that anything beyond A+B is "complex". Is it just my imagination or did somebody really prove that adding two of something equals nothing? Surely, a constant to a constant times a constant doesn't equal -1.
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September 18, 2013, 02:30:19 PM |
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Back on-topic. Can the ASIC chip be removed from an ASIC-based bitcoin minor and be replaced with another ASIC chip to perform a different task.
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September 18, 2013, 02:32:39 PM |
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There are already thousands of threads about this. The calculations required have to be hard to do, but easy to verify, and that instantly, securely and uniquely. There's hardly any real world application that would fit into this. The only existing approach of calculating something somewhat "sensible" until now is being explored by Primecoin.
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September 18, 2013, 02:57:24 PM |
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Surely, a constant to a constant times a constant doesn't equal -1.
It does because i2 is -1, and amazingly it works the other way around too, so 2 i is also -1. e is just 2 with some extra digits which we can ignore since we're dealing with integers here, so ei is -1 as well. And of course, π is an odd number, so -1 raised to the power of π is still -1. Ergo, eiπ = -1. Q.E.D.
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