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September 15, 2013, 06:18:54 PM
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I am not sure if this is normal or not so im asking this forum, It sure doesnt seem like the kind of return i should be getting, but maybe i have just been unlucky? 

I made 25 bets, each either 0.25 BTC or 0.20 BTC. look at my win / loss ratio below. 19 losses and 6 wins - 25 bets total. I staked a total of 5.94 BTC and made a return of 2.4994 BTC.  They state on their website that the return is currently set at 99%. I'm wondering if someone can tell me if i am just very very unlucky or if the site is not working correctly?

Just to be clear, i am not accusing the site of anything, merely asking this forum for help to determine if i have been treated fairly or not. I wouldn't have a clue how to calculate it all myself.  Please can someone help me?

http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10296 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10297 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10298 - Win (0.4999)
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10301 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10302 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10303 - Win (0.2499)
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10304 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10305 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10306 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10307 - Win (0.2499)
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10308 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10309 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10310 - Win (0.4999)
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10311 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10312 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10313 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10314 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10315 - Win (0.4999)
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10316 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10317 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10318 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10319 - Win (0.3124)
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10320 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10321 - lose
http://www.pinballcoin.com/betdetails?betid=10322 - lose
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September 15, 2013, 06:21:33 PM
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Clearly looks one-sided why did you keep going? Shocked


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September 15, 2013, 06:23:42 PM
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why don't you just find out for yourself?
http://www.pinballcoin.com/#fair

It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

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September 15, 2013, 06:25:08 PM
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Clearly looks one-sided why did you keep going? Shocked

Well i thought i was just being unlucky and it would turn around to become the fair game its supposed to be and level the %ages right.  After 19 losses i thought its time to ask the forum as i have become suspicious of it
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September 16, 2013, 08:38:24 AM
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why don't you just find out for yourself?
http://www.pinballcoin.com/#fair

Because i don't really understand it tbh
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September 16, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
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cool game. If it is 50/50 for each peg, the return does come out to 98.9868% payback.

Chance of 10:1 is 1 in 1170.286
Chance of 5:1 is 1 in 45.01099
chance of 2:1 is 1 in 8.183816
chance of 1.25: 1 is 1 in 4.773893

You won 6 out of 25 (expected 12.5 wins), which is a bit sketchy at 25!/19!/6! * .5 ^ 25 = 0.005278, or 1 in 189.466.

Were these the *only* 25 games you played? In other words, are you painting a picture that doesn't exist? This wouldn't be too uncommon of a stretch if you played 100 games for example.

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