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February 14, 2018, 07:57:43 PM
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taking 3 months of vacation during which I will leave my place empty with 5 miners running, which currently consuming about 2KW power around the clock. I am contemplating whether this is good idea to leave it as running or just completely turn off. Biggest worry is fire safety:
wires can tangle, fans can seize, chips can heat up and sparks can fly. Add to that it is around March to Mid July during which several of tough heatwave is expected.

- option 1:  leave it off and forfeit 3 months of mining revenue.
- option 2: leave it as it is (very anxious about this one)
- option 3: this is interesting one which I am contemplating:
equip home with wireless cam, also just purchased remote on and off switch for motherboard which can be controlled by web, so i can turn on when it is not hot, still need to setup. Cram all the miner in a smaller room and leave the A/C on.
To reduce further the fire risk, I am thinking about putting huge metal or tin foil around the ceiling, floor and around the miners in case sparks fly. I know it is quite paranoid and unliely to happen but if it ever happens, I bought a barn.

If i cant make my mind between three option, most likely going to choose option 1 which is safest one.
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February 14, 2018, 08:02:23 PM
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I went on vacation for 1 week recently.

I followed everything through camera wirelles, checked temperatures on a thermometer, and left the house keys with a person of confidence.

In my case everything went well.

But 3 months is another story.
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February 14, 2018, 08:23:01 PM
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since all of them running centos, i can setup cron to start mining during night time only. that is another option.
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February 14, 2018, 08:48:59 PM
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How about drastically dialing back clock/intensity settings so the cards draw a lot less power? Could be a happy middle ground where you are still earning something but reduce the likelihood of fire, damage, lockups/shutdowns, etc.

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February 14, 2018, 08:50:01 PM
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Maybe consider selling 5 gpus and buy back when you are back from vacation. For short away time, it can be tolerated but who knows what happens in 3 months of time.
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February 14, 2018, 08:56:06 PM
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How about drastically dialing back clock/intensity settings so the cards draw a lot less power? Could be a happy middle ground where you are still earning something but reduce the likelihood of fire, damage, lockups/shutdowns, etc.



yes already doing that and running at minimum non-idle power at 90-120W range. Max power is 180W.
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February 14, 2018, 08:59:49 PM
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Dial back the intensity and set your rig on something that can not catch fire. You could set it on tile with nothing near it. I set mine on a wood rack and then 4 tiles below it.
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February 14, 2018, 09:00:07 PM
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If you turn down power like people mentioned above me and also put the miners on a concrete floor or something of the sort that is naturally fireproof there's going to be very little risk of fire. Third option should work best for you if you're extremely concerned about safety.

You should be putting your miners in a place that isn't at risk of burning up anyways. If you already do this, just being able to remotely control your miners should be enough.
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February 14, 2018, 09:05:08 PM
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I would just shut it down.

Most likely they will crash eventually to the point of requiring a hard power reset.

Also depending on where you live, the ambient temp might change due to your outside temp. You might have to open the windows more or less.

You get to your destination and the miners aren't responsive? Panic sets in. Did they crash ? Internet down? Or did they burn your place to the ground.

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February 14, 2018, 09:14:55 PM
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When you have rigs multiple setup with cooling and ventilation, security cameras, monitoring alerts etc.. it's not big deal. For 5 GPU's... I think if you have to ask if it's okay then it's probably not. If it was me in your situation I would capitalize on the high GPU market and sell the cards. In 3 months when you return, you'll probably find better deals and can put together and 8 card rig for the same price.
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February 14, 2018, 09:32:45 PM
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Option 4: have a backup person you trust look into the rigs if remote troubleshooting doesn't work.
If they're capable enough they can also use different profiles to swtich too according to ambient temps.
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February 14, 2018, 09:41:15 PM
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You could try to thin out the rigs, lay them out on the floor with each GPU as far from the others as possible. Remove anything easily flammable from the environment like curtains or rugs, cover the floor in aluminum foil.

My rigs are ghetto AF, just loose computer parts sitting on home made plywood shelves covered with fire retardant paint. I never worry about them though since they are in a 100% concrete basement, there's nothing there that can hold a flame for longer than 5 seconds.
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February 15, 2018, 12:42:29 AM
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i am considering this unit for wi-fi room temp sensor, humidiy (probably not need) and camera. Looks pretty compact and fits the bill:
https://frys.com/product/8506959?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

There are also compact wi-fi controller wall socket but rated at 10AMP. More than that, it is fire hazard, changes are the miner are not going to surpass this limit but it is lower than the normal home circuit breaker capacity of 15AMP. So i decided to steer clear of this one and look for more heavy-data ones if there is available. I dont expect the miner to go up 10AMP but leaving no room open. I'd rather home circuit breaker move in before going over some commercial stuff's rated amperage.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074GVPYPY/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2FT35EE4X3BTV&colid=1YC02DZ0E8GZ3&psc=1



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February 15, 2018, 12:43:44 AM
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how much revenue are you forfeiting during those 3 months?

Is that $ worth losing sleep over?

If yes, then follow through with plans to isolate your rig and fireproof as best as possible, add the ability to remote in via phone, check your pools stats to see the last time your rig sent a hash, have IP cams so you can check in visually, etc.

If the $ is not worth it, then sell the GPUs & enjoy your trip abroad Smiley





expecting about 4500$ in three months but could be much less or far more in volatile crypto market.
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February 15, 2018, 12:44:55 AM
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You could try to thin out the rigs, lay them out on the floor with each GPU as far from the others as possible. Remove anything easily flammable from the environment like curtains or rugs, cover the floor in aluminum foil.

My rigs are ghetto AF, just loose computer parts sitting on home made plywood shelves covered with fire retardant paint. I never worry about them though since they are in a 100% concrete basement, there's nothing there that can hold a flame for longer than 5 seconds.

got carpet, perhaps probably lay a thin foil across the carpet and find some fire proof surface to put on the miners.
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February 15, 2018, 01:00:23 AM
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taking 3 months of vacation during which I will leave my place empty with 5 miners running, which currently consuming about 2KW power around the clock. I am contemplating whether this is good idea to leave it as running or just completely turn off. Biggest worry is fire safety:
wires can tangle, fans can seize, chips can heat up and sparks can fly. Add to that it is around March to Mid July during which several of tough heatwave is expected.

- option 1:  leave it off and forfeit 3 months of mining revenue.
- option 2: leave it as it is (very anxious about this one)
- option 3: this is interesting one which I am contemplating:
equip home with wireless cam, also just purchased remote on and off switch for motherboard which can be controlled by web, so i can turn on when it is not hot, still need to setup. Cram all the miner in a smaller room and leave the A/C on.
To reduce further the fire risk, I am thinking about putting huge metal or tin foil around the ceiling, floor and around the miners in case sparks fly. I know it is quite paranoid and unliely to happen but if it ever happens, I bought a barn.

If i cant make my mind between three option, most likely going to choose option 1 which is safest one.

sell your cards get water cooled

problem solved.
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February 15, 2018, 01:11:38 AM
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I would leave it running. Just make sure you can monitor the rigs. I would use TeamViewer to reboot the rigs every week or two and also get these smart plugs so you can do a hard reboot from your phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V4AjzldKSw&feature=youtu.be&t=58

If you are really paranoid you could get these extinguishers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBJEPA79iYE&feature=youtu.be&t=317
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February 15, 2018, 01:13:57 AM
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A lot of these suggestions are good but they are all overkill.  I don't know where you live but if its the USA then your electrical system should be pretty stable.  You have your circuit breaker that will pop if amps become too high.  If yours PSUs aren't cheap knockoffs then they will certainly shut down also if power usage gets out of control.  Then you also have a surge protector that also has a circuit breaker.  The stuff you hear about causing fires are usually things like space heaters that fall over and ignite something.  I mean if you think about it can you think of any scenario where sparks would start shooting out of your psu or gpu?  Or outlet?  No, not going to happen.  If i were you id be more concerned with the internet going down or power going out and your rigs shutting off.

I mean think about all of the electrical equipment that runs daily without intervention.  Server rooms full of stuff that never ignite.
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February 15, 2018, 01:39:07 AM
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taking 3 months of vacation during which I will leave my place empty with 5 miners running, which currently consuming about 2KW power around the clock. I am contemplating whether this is good idea to leave it as running or just completely turn off. Biggest worry is fire safety:
wires can tangle, fans can seize, chips can heat up and sparks can fly. Add to that it is around March to Mid July during which several of tough heatwave is expected.

- option 1:  leave it off and forfeit 3 months of mining revenue.
- option 2: leave it as it is (very anxious about this one)
- option 3: this is interesting one which I am contemplating:
equip home with wireless cam, also just purchased remote on and off switch for motherboard which can be controlled by web, so i can turn on when it is not hot, still need to setup. Cram all the miner in a smaller room and leave the A/C on.
To reduce further the fire risk, I am thinking about putting huge metal or tin foil around the ceiling, floor and around the miners in case sparks fly. I know it is quite paranoid and unliely to happen but if it ever happens, I bought a barn.

If i cant make my mind between three option, most likely going to choose option 1 which is safest one.

sell your cards get water cooled

problem solved.

Yeah, right ... Lol.

Ok, I want you to walk back in there and very calmly, very politely tell the risk assessors to fuck off! -Mark Baum
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February 15, 2018, 01:39:56 AM
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I'll add to Digital Drug Lord's unrealistic suggestions ... halon fire prevention system.  Lol.

Ok, I want you to walk back in there and very calmly, very politely tell the risk assessors to fuck off! -Mark Baum
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