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February 14, 2018, 09:59:43 PM
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A simple question :
is this an ASICS ETH miner
1665 worker with 120 +/-1 Mhs each
https://eth.nanopool.org/account/0x39d27d66c14f7372553b1ba59833c6ba8981a76a

has 45519 ETH : the same : hhttps://www.etherchain.org/account/c257274276a4e539741ca11b590b9447b26a8051#transactions

the only equivalent is 2 X tesla per worker but no it seems to be an asics firm

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February 14, 2018, 10:08:03 PM
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A simple question :
is this an ASICS ETH miner
1665 worker with 120 +/-1 Mhs each
https://eth.nanopool.org/account/0x39d27d66c14f7372553b1ba59833c6ba8981a76a

has 45519 ETH : the same : hhttps://www.etherchain.org/account/c257274276a4e539741ca11b590b9447b26a8051#transactions

the only equivalent is 2 X tesla per worker but no it seems to be an asics firm


16K separate rigs?  Why is this not just a large-scale miner?  Who HODLs his/her Ether.
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February 14, 2018, 10:09:57 PM
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stable 120 Mhs on each miner
total of 2,015,214 Mh/s on nanopool !!!!!
this is not normal !!!
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February 14, 2018, 10:19:24 PM
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stable 120 Mhs on each miner
total of 2,015,214 Mh/s on nanopool !!!!!
this is not normal !!!

it's around a $10M investment if they started a year ago, there were a couple other large miners like this on ethpool and ethermine back when they showed top miners, it's definitely not ASICs.
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February 14, 2018, 10:27:39 PM
Last edit: February 14, 2018, 10:51:35 PM by sikke1
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Many MAC adresses are from chinese mining mainboards
Then like b8:97:5a:f7:17:ff BIOSTAR Microtech. Hundreds of Biostar mainboards.

They are all GPU rigs with max 4x 30Mhs GPU / 1PSU
70000 cards. Genesis mining lol
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February 14, 2018, 10:28:46 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2932282.0

Is this Bitmain testing early the new F3?
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February 14, 2018, 10:40:42 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2932282.0

Is this Bitmain testing early the new F3?

Exactly
is this the new F3 miner firm Huh?
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February 14, 2018, 10:52:06 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2932282.0

Is this Bitmain testing early the new F3?

Exactly
is this the new F3 miner firm Huh?

No, its not - The MACs match the Biostar mining motherboards, even then the hashrate per device is low, not even more than 4 GPUs per machine, so there's really nothing to worry about here, just a big miner, there's tons of them out there.

There's bigger miners than that on ethermine.
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February 14, 2018, 11:03:39 PM
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About half of them are Biostar mainboards
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February 14, 2018, 11:14:17 PM
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Unlikely, an eth asic would probably take the form of a device that has a gddr5 controller or hbm on it. It'd acheive the same hashrate as a gpu (maybe slightly better due to optimizations that could be done at that level) and use about 5% of the power. They'd cram as many of these chip/mem combos as they could onto a board and stick it in a case like bitmain.


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February 14, 2018, 11:17:50 PM
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Unlikely, an eth asic would probably take the form of a device that has a gddr5 controller or hbm on it. It'd acheive the same hashrate as a gpu (maybe slightly better due to optimizations that could be done at that level) and use about 5% of the power. They'd cram as many of these chip/mem combos as they could onto a board and stick it in a case like bitmain.



yes but it will be in few month : GPU gddrx5 & hbm2 Vs gddr5 asics right ??
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February 14, 2018, 11:36:02 PM
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Unlikely, an eth asic would probably take the form of a device that has a gddr5 controller or hbm on it. It'd acheive the same hashrate as a gpu (maybe slightly better due to optimizations that could be done at that level) and use about 5% of the power. They'd cram as many of these chip/mem combos as they could onto a board and stick it in a case like bitmain.

Correct it would have more hash with 1 worker 1 psu to be viable
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February 14, 2018, 11:58:46 PM
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It would be such an amazing fact and maybe the end of GPU mining. Don't know if that's asic or not but asic will make everything from good to worse for ethereum. Amazing fact would be that bitmain has possibility to change rules in any crypto, just see how the destroyed siacoin mining and give them a good lesson. Now eth, what is next?
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No, its not - The MACs match the Biostar mining motherboards, even then the hashrate per device is low, not even more than 4 GPUs per machine, so there's really nothing to worry about here, just a big miner, there's tons of them out there.

There's bigger miners than that on ethermine.
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February 15, 2018, 02:33:50 AM
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A simple question :
is this an ASICS ETH miner
1665 worker with 120 +/-1 Mhs each
https://eth.nanopool.org/account/0x39d27d66c14f7372553b1ba59833c6ba8981a76a

has 45519 ETH : the same : hhttps://www.etherchain.org/account/c257274276a4e539741ca11b590b9447b26a8051#transactions

the only equivalent is 2 X tesla per worker but no it seems to be an asics firm



 Biggest rig is only around 200 Mhash - that's well within standard GPU mining rig territory.

 I'm more worried that Antpool added ETH and ETC options at some point - *USUALLY* Bitmain doesn't add coins unless they are working on an ASIC for that algorithm, though ETH in particular is "big enough" they might have just added it for the pool fee income.



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February 15, 2018, 02:40:22 AM
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A simple question :
is this an ASICS ETH miner
1665 worker with 120 +/-1 Mhs each
https://eth.nanopool.org/account/0x39d27d66c14f7372553b1ba59833c6ba8981a76a

has 45519 ETH : the same : hhttps://www.etherchain.org/account/c257274276a4e539741ca11b590b9447b26a8051#transactions

the only equivalent is 2 X tesla per worker but no it seems to be an asics firm



 Biggest rig is only around 200 Mhash - that's well within standard GPU mining rig territory.

 I'm more worried that Antpool added ETH and ETC options at some point - *USUALLY* Bitmain doesn't add coins unless they are working on an ASIC for that algorithm, though ETH in particular is "big enough" they might have just added it for the pool fee income.




Going by this thread, Antpool has had an ETH pool since at least May 2016.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1490172.0
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February 15, 2018, 02:45:06 AM
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It would be such an amazing fact and maybe the end of GPU mining. Don't know if that's asic or not but asic will make everything from good to worse for ethereum. Amazing fact would be that bitmain has possibility to change rules in any crypto, just see how the destroyed siacoin mining and give them a good lesson. Now eth, what is next?
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No, its not - The MACs match the Biostar mining motherboards, even then the hashrate per device is low, not even more than 4 GPUs per machine, so there's really nothing to worry about here, just a big miner, there's tons of them out there.

There's bigger miners than that on ethermine.
You just made me calm

Over all the years in business Bitmain has made an ASIC miner for a total of 4 algos, and now you think they are going to change the rules of all crypto?!  riiiiiiiighttt
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February 15, 2018, 03:29:52 PM
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It would be such an amazing fact and maybe the end of GPU mining. Don't know if that's asic or not but asic will make everything from good to worse for ethereum. Amazing fact would be that bitmain has possibility to change rules in any crypto, just see how the destroyed siacoin mining and give them a good lesson. Now eth, what is next?
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No, its not - The MACs match the Biostar mining motherboards, even then the hashrate per device is low, not even more than 4 GPUs per machine, so there's really nothing to worry about here, just a big miner, there's tons of them out there.

There's bigger miners than that on ethermine.
You just made me calm

Over all the years in business Bitmain has made an ASIC miner for a total of 4 algos, and now you think they are going to change the rules of all crypto?!  riiiiiiiighttt
What I mean is that they destroy mining. See how powerful machines they make, see their miner for siacoin. Now asic on ether?
But I wonder why do they sell their equipments? For example Bitfury doesn't sells but Bitmain sells. Why? While they can leave it for them and become much stronger.

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February 15, 2018, 04:51:03 PM
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What I mean is that they destroy mining. See how powerful machines they make, see their miner for siacoin. Now asic on ether?
But I wonder why do they sell their equipments? For example Bitfury doesn't sells but Bitmain sells. Why? While they can leave it for them and become much stronger.

I love how you ignore the fact that other people are making asics for the same algos and you blame bitmain for being first to market. I cant tell if its an irrational hatred for bitmain or just pure ignorance.

Bitfury does sell all kinds of stuff, from bare chips to entire pod style hashing boxes (look up Bitfury BlockBox)

It takes datacenter space and power to run an infinite number of miners. There is no way bitmain could just run all the hardware they make for themselves, they sell literally billions of dollars of hardware a year.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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February 15, 2018, 08:47:52 PM
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 I'm more worried that Antpool added ETH and ETC options at some point - *USUALLY* Bitmain doesn't add coins unless they are working on an ASIC for that algorithm, though ETH in particular is "big enough" they might have just added it for the pool fee income.


Going by this thread, Antpool has had an ETH pool since at least May 2016.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1490172.0


 Shows how little I pay attention to AntPool.

 Guess I can stop worrying now.


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February 15, 2018, 08:50:48 PM
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What I mean is that they destroy mining. See how powerful machines they make, see their miner for siacoin. Now asic on ether?
But I wonder why do they sell their equipments? For example Bitfury doesn't sells but Bitmain sells. Why? While they can leave it for them and become much stronger.

I love how you ignore the fact that other people are making asics for the same algos and you blame bitmain for being first to market. I cant tell if its an irrational hatred for bitmain or just pure ignorance.

Bitfury does sell all kinds of stuff, from bare chips to entire pod style hashing boxes (look up Bitfury BlockBox)

It takes datacenter space and power to run an infinite number of miners. There is no way bitmain could just run all the hardware they make for themselves, they sell literally billions of dollars of hardware a year.

 Bitfury sells lots of something, just not to end users - so they aren't as obvious about how much they contribute to network hashrate.
 Ditto BW.COM, though most of THEIR stuff ends up internal mining on their own pool.

 The big isssue with Bitmain is that they tend to SWAMP an algorithm which huge sales - when they can - to the point that profitability goes into the basement.
 Bitcoin has been resistant so far due to the HUGE price runup over the last 3ish years outpacing what miner makers CAN build, and same to a degree for Litecoin - but the OTHER algos Bitmain has entered it HAS managed to swamp badly and quickly.


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