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February 15, 2018, 11:38:24 AM
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You are yet another shill for MEXC token. In fact, the majority of people posting in their thread seem to be alts just asking the same questions to bump up the thread. Further proof why having a Vietnamese board would be a complete shitshow.

Good that you noticed our MEXC token thread. As the owner of the thread, I can't stop people from posting.
But I can stop them from calling names like what you did.

My advice is just to get out of your head, and look around. It doesn't take a breath of hair on your side to know that
the Asean region, especially Vietnam, are moving better GDP year by year.

Does it hurt to support other fellow human being?



What are you talking about? Calling names? How can you stop that? And I only noticed it because of the amount of spam and shilling that is going on in this and that thread. They are shills that you are either very likely in control of or are paying people to post there. And no, we shouldn't support users that are only here to spam and shill for their own financial greed.

Calling us shills is okay for you? Does it occur to you that some of them might be sending from the same office?
How do I control that. Be realistic, that's all I ask.

Can you do that?


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February 15, 2018, 11:58:28 AM
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Yeah, I've heard the they're our "office" accounts excuse before. Also they're my friend/wife/brother/cousin's accounts. This is what people usually say when they get caught with alts just like you have.



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February 15, 2018, 12:20:00 PM
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Yeah, I've heard the they're our "office" accounts excuse before. Also they're my friend/wife/brother/cousin's accounts. This is what people usually say when they get caught with alts just like you have.


Well, as I said. I can't control that. Our supporters can be anywhere.
I'm trying hard to understand what your real problem is. What really happened before wrt to Vietnamese thread?
Are there a lot of spamming before? Please enlightened me.

As for MEXC token, it is a solid business case, with many firsts. Don't mix the two together ya. Be professional a bit.




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February 15, 2018, 12:47:33 PM
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You keep saying supporters but you you mean shills. I've already explained why the Vietnamese thread was locked. And my problem is with spammers and scammers using multiple accounts to break the rules and either shill their ICOs or spam for them.

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February 15, 2018, 12:57:31 PM
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You keep saying supporters but you you mean shills. I've already explained why the Vietnamese thread was locked. And my problem is with spammers and scammers using multiple accounts to break the rules and either shill their ICOs or spam for them.

Easy for you just to label everybody at your whims and fancies.
That what 90% of the people in the world are. Too much hate in them.


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February 15, 2018, 01:15:54 PM
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You keep saying supporters but you you mean shills. I've already explained why the Vietnamese thread was locked. And my problem is with spammers and scammers using multiple accounts to break the rules and either shill their ICOs or spam for them.

Easy for you just to label everybody at your whims and fancies.
That what 90% of the people in the world are. Too much hate in them.



No, I label them when there's evidence:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806719     Erina Sama     February 06, 2018 nurhayatinordin.work@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806778     Alice Miromochan     February 06, 2018, yayaxnh@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806723 mikebrown2222     February 06, 2018 johanrzk+1@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806855     jesiccahewittatn2     February 06, 2018 johanrzk+3@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806907     sonaonemikael202011     February 06, 2018 johanrzk+4@same
email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806680     Yukihira Soma February 06, 2018 adhafaiq.work+1@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806744     Andreas Hajpun     February 06, 2018, adhafaiq.work+2@same email provider


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1808673 Danial shah February 07, 2018 imanghazali1994+2@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1807519     alias army    February 07, 2018, shafiqshahiran1997@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1807686     khalidwaled February 07, 2018, khalifa.jazz01@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1808724 MrDab01234 February 07, 2018 Khalifa.jazz01+2@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1807813     Izzathzm February 07, 2018 BaloIzzat@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1807793  Chaerin Lee February 07, 2018 yayaxnhn.1@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1808220 Kathryn_nadine February 07, 2018 Kathryn.nadine04@same email provider


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1811371 Zachriah01     February 08, 2018 Kathryn.nadine01@same email provider

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749504     sandarajasmine     January 24, 2018 yayaxnhn@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749365     johanrzk January 24, 2018, johanrzk@same email provider



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1759522     mhdazrull     January 26, 2018 muhammad.azrul07@same email provider

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1808050 Tonybrooks February 07, 2018, Badboyz_azrul@different email provider (but likely belongs to the mhdazrull  account).

All those are shilling entirely in your threads. Same sign up dates, many with similar/same email addresses. There's obviously many more I missed as well seeing as there's no johanrzk+2, imanghazali1994+1 and Kathryn.nadine02 and 03... yet. So nice little shill army you have there.

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February 15, 2018, 01:23:57 PM
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You keep saying supporters but you you mean shills. I've already explained why the Vietnamese thread was locked. And my problem is with spammers and scammers using multiple accounts to break the rules and either shill their ICOs or spam for them.

Easy for you just to label everybody at your whims and fancies.
That what 90% of the people in the world are. Too much hate in them.



No, I label them when there's evidence:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806719     Erina Sama     February 06, 2018 nurhayatinordin.work@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806778     Alice Miromochan     February 06, 2018, yayaxnh@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806723 mikebrown2222     February 06, 2018 johanrzk+1@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806855     jesiccahewittatn2     February 06, 2018 johanrzk+3@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806907     sonaonemikael202011     February 06, 2018 johanrzk+4@same
email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806680     Yukihira Soma February 06, 2018 adhafaiq.work+1@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1806744     Andreas Hajpun     February 06, 2018, adhafaiq.work+2@same email provider


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1808673 Danial shah February 07, 2018 imanghazali1994+2@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1807519     alias army    February 07, 2018, shafiqshahiran1997@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1807686     khalidwaled February 07, 2018, khalifa.jazz01@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1808724 MrDab01234 February 07, 2018 Khalifa.jazz01+2@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1807813     Izzathzm February 07, 2018 BaloIzzat@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1807793  Chaerin Lee February 07, 2018 yayaxnhn.1@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1808220 Kathryn_nadine February 07, 2018 Kathryn.nadine04@same email provider


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1811371 Zachriah01     February 08, 2018 Kathryn.nadine01@same email provider

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749504     sandarajasmine     January 24, 2018 yayaxnhn@same email provider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749365     johanrzk January 24, 2018, johanrzk@same email provider



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1759522     mhdazrull     January 26, 2018 muhammad.azrul07@same email provider

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1808050 Tonybrooks February 07, 2018, Badboyz_azrul@different email provider (but likely belongs to the mhdazrull  account).

All those are shilling entirely in your threads. Same sign up dates, many with similar/same email addresses. There's obviously many more I missed as well seeing as there's no johanrzk+2, imanghazali1994+1 and Kathryn.nadine02 and 03... yet. So nice little shill army you have there.

I think we're drifting from the topic.
We are talking about Vietnamese thread, and you're personally attacking me. As if, I'm the one involved in this.

We have bounties, and as far as I know, I didn't have to go into details on how they managed themselves to get the bounties.
Now that you have told me, maybe I can do something about that.

Thanks!


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February 15, 2018, 01:39:32 PM
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I think we're drifting from the topic.
We are talking about Vietnamese thread, and you're personally attacking me. As if, I'm the one involved in this.




It's on topic because it's further proof that the abuse by Vietnamese users is endemic. They systematically abused their thread en mass with alts and it even happened in here and furthermore your thread is chock full of abuse by them. If they're given a board then the same thing will happen there only it will be difficult to spot since no mods speak Vietnamese.

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February 15, 2018, 01:43:13 PM
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I think we're drifting from the topic.
We are talking about Vietnamese thread, and you're personally attacking me. As if, I'm the one involved in this.




It's on topic because it's further proof that the abuse by Vietnamese users is endemic. They systematically abused their thread en mass with alts and it even happened in here and furthermore your thread is chock full of abuse by them. If they're given a board then the same thing will happen there only it will be difficult to spot since no mods speak Vietnamese.

And you just blankly assumed that all those are Vietnamese.
You don't even ask me where I'm from, but hey! No need... just put them into one bunch!

I don't know if we can't call that a racist act.


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I think we're drifting from the topic.
We are talking about Vietnamese thread, and you're personally attacking me. As if, I'm the one involved in this.




It's on topic because it's further proof that the abuse by Vietnamese users is endemic. They systematically abused their thread en mass with alts and it even happened in here and furthermore your thread is chock full of abuse by them. If they're given a board then the same thing will happen there only it will be difficult to spot since no mods speak Vietnamese.

And you just blankly assumed that all those are Vietnamese.
You don't even ask me where I'm from, but hey! No need... just put them into one bunch!

I don't know if we can't call that a racist act.



Thank you so much for your support. But i think we can't change hilariousetc's mind about Vietname people.

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I think it's neccessary to open a Vietnamese local board. Coinmarketcap has supported Vietnamese. So Bitcointalk should do, too.
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You had your own local thread but it was locked due to constant abuse. 99% of the posts in there were from farmers either copy and pasting irrelevant content or shitposters just spamming post after post and not a single Vietnamese user ever reported it. In fact, most we're happy to participate in it once they realised they could get away with it.

It's still even happening in this thread such as these two below who are the same person posting one after the other:

yeah I agree, need a local board for Vietnamese because traffic from the famous website are from Vietnamese

The traffic is massive, that why i also agree with this.

 Grin

I am totally agree because even indonesia is in the local board.

Vietnam will potentially be a big country for cryptocurrency.

I support this 100% that vietnam must have their own local board.

 Grin



And this one likely also belongs:

yeah I agree, need a local board for Vietnamese because traffic from the famous website are from Vietnamese

Who all seem to be shills for MEXC token. So that's why you shouldn't have your own section because it will just be abused by shitposters and account farmers and there's currently no one trustable to moderate it.
Agree. However, why the forum can not have moderators for Vietnamese local board? I guess it not hard to find or hire someone to do this task. Personally, I think Vietnamese users who have good English skills still can join other boards in the forum and contribute to the forum discussion with high-quality threads, etc. Some of them might be helpful users. With Vietnamese users who don't have proficiency in English, they should have other option, in the case, Vietnamese local board for discussion, sharing ideas, help each other.
With merit system, they can not be ranked up by copying and pasting. I think the merit system is enough to control spammers, plagiarisers.

Please consider re-opening Vietnamese local board Smiley

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I agree to Vietnamese language at bitcointalk
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 I agree to Vietnamese language at bitcointalk. Coinmartketcap and a few websibe alcoin have Vietnammese. Why we dont have forum Vietnammese at bitcointalk
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February 25, 2018, 09:52:31 AM
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i also agree that we should open a new local board for Vietnamese.

also assign a trusted local admin that can manage the local board.

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totally agree
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yeah. i also agree the fact that they should open Local Board for Vietnamese. in fact, Vietnamese is at top among Asian countries based on the traffic.

Vietnam will be the next big country for Crypto. you have my support!
You sure about that?
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org
Japan is has the highest number of visitors in Asia, and the next big country for crypto Tongue

Anyway, as Hilarious says, there are many abusers (especially low quality posts) coming from Vietnamese users
Unless you Vietnamese can convince Theymos and find trusted member as its moderator, a local sub-forum is a no-go


Low quality post because of the bad English, not because they are spammers or/and ignorance.
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March 20, 2018, 04:50:40 PM
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i also agree that we should open a new local board for Vietnamese.

also assign a trusted local admin that can manage the local board.

The problem is that there currently isn't anyone trusted enough to moderate it. All local boards that don't have adequate moderation (Chinese etc) are ripe for abuse and the Vietnamese board was already probably the worst abused board I've ever seen and add to the fact that not a single Vietnamese user reported any of the abuse makes it even worse.

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April 02, 2018, 03:11:21 AM
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I think it's neccessary to open a Vietnamese local board and  I agree to Vietnamese language at bitcointalk.
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April 02, 2018, 03:54:33 AM
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The problem is that there currently isn't anyone trusted enough to moderate it. All local boards that don't have adequate moderation (Chinese etc) are ripe for abuse and the Vietnamese board was already probably the worst abused board I've ever seen and add to the fact that not a single Vietnamese user reported any of the abuse makes it even worse.
I agree the fact, but I think Vietnamese locals should have one more last chance. After unlocking the board, admin or moderators should stated clearly that the board will open for trials, someone found abusements should contribute to the forum by reporting abusers to moderators to eliminate abusers. Instead, after a while, the board will be shut down forever.
Over time, you can find active, self-moderator in the board. Something like with Merit system.

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