What is the difference between these RX 580's ?

[Diss]

Hello. I currently have one rig which is 6X Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8GB which I bought pre-made and I want to build a second one from scratch now, but I'm wondering what is the difference between models of these graphics cards? As I'm pretty much new to this and want to learn now about bios modding and get some experience there.

I see alot of RX 580 cards on sale, some are cheaper and some are pretty expencive. For example, Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8GB is currently priced at $675, while ASUS RX 580 DUAL is $40 less than Sapphire one. And there is also some other models like Sapphire PULSE, Gigabyte, XFX GTS XXX, MSI Armor and few other models which are cheaper and/or more expencive.

Can someone please just simply explain to me, what is the difference between these models? Like is there a difference in modding bios? Or is modding bios on some of these cards harder/easyer? Are some of them giving less hash? Because I don't know much yet, and I don't want to make a mistake so if anyone could please tell me. And also advice if I should go with 8GB or 4GB version now. Thank you in advance.

[Vann]

If you are seriously contemplanting buying an RX 580 for $600, you're already making a mistake. If you can't get cards for closer to their MRSP, then I would just wait.

[pickleburglar]

The only real difference is memory chip manufacturer. Samsung ones generally overclock the best, hynx second and micron the worst, all though, the difference is around 2mhz per card so that consideration is worth around 5% of the price maybe. Most of the time you have no way to tell what memory chips you're going to get anyways, its a lottery. There are some exceptions like MSI's gaming series cards only use samsung memories or sometimes you can find out by looking at the serial number on the box but with online shopping there's no way to do that.

Also there is no fucking way a 580 is worth $675, jeesh. Look around local auction sites, 480/580s with warranty intact generally move for €300-€350 over here.

[Metroid]

If you are seriously contemplanting buying an RX 580 for $600, you're already making a mistake. If you can't get cards for closer to their MRSP, then I would just wait.

$675 is cheap compared to where I live, idiots are paying $1000 for them, Also if he wants to pay $675 for a rx 580, that just show how stupid this has become, there are many miners around here paying $1000 for a rx $580 and they say they are not, I would love this market to crash hard to show how stupid they are, paying these outrageous prices will only make it worse, nobody should pay more than $230 for a rx 580.

[Diss]

First of all, thank you for the fast answers.

Second of all, LOL I kinda saw this coming. But that's currently the price of RX580's over here right now. And actually it was even more when ethereum was $1500. Then after it crashed, prices went down and this is the lowest they got. I kinda feel it's gonna happen again, prices for GPU's will again go up. It already started over here.

And there is no really other cards to buy, I wanted 1070's too, but it's like $200 more comparing to RX580.

While 4GB versions od the same 580's are alot cheaper, same goes for 470's, 480's, 570's but I don't know if those are as good as 580's? Because so far I have experience only with 580's. And should I even build a rig with the 4GB cards, I know those cards are safe for like a year and a half or two from now mining ether, but speaking about resell price if i want to upgrade etc?

[Marvell2]

nitro are the best mining 580s is why so high demad

great cooling, dual bios , usualy micro or high end hynix or samsung

[Vann]

Well at $600 for a RX 580 it may take you a year of 24/7 mining to even get your money back. If you ever want to sell the card to upgrade in the future, you will take a huge loss. If I were that desperate to start mining, I would rather buy 6-7 used HD 7850 2GB on eBay for ~$500-600. That will give you 108-125 MH/s on Ethash coins with a Dag <2GB like UBQ, EXP, PIRL, etc and also ~1170-1365 H/s Equihash and ~3000-3500 H/s on Cryptonight. Much better ROI and you can also trade those coins for ETH if you want.

[manji]

different at from boost clock, temperature system, and noise system, heatsink size, and amount of fan. I suggest getting 8GB for keeping long periods to mining.if you mining in Ethash Algorithm, it considering your size memory.

for type VRAM, some miners very happy if they get a Samsung doesn't mean other types of VRAM is bad but has a bit difference amount hashrate. you will know VRAM type after buy.

[Diss]

Well at $600 for a RX 580 it may take you a year of 24/7 mining to even get your money back. If you ever want to sell the card to upgrade in the future, you will take a huge loss. If I were that desperate to start mining, I would rather buy 6-7 used HD 7850 2GB on eBay for ~$500-600. That will give you 108-125 MH/s on Ethash coins with a Dag <2GB like UBQ, EXP, PIRL, etc and also ~1170-1365 H/s Equihash and ~3000-3500 H/s on Cryptonight. Much better ROI and you can also trade those coins for ETH if you want.

I'm not desperate to ''start mining''. I just have some extra cash I want to keep rolling, since I don't have time to day trade. And I don't want to do day trade.

Where did you see 5-6 of 7850 giving you ~20 MH/s per card? As far as I know, maximum hashrate of that card is like ~12. And I don't think anyone would buy those off me even after ROI. It'll be hard to sell after. I think.

[Vann]

Paying over double MSRP just to get ~30 MH/s doesn't sound very smart to me. Especially when the next gen cards are about to be released in less than 2 months for Nvidia and 6 months for AMD. Once the new cards come out, you would be lucky to get $200 for a used RX 580.

The HD 7850 can easily get 17-18 MH/s on Ethash (<2GB Dag). Six cards will give you 108+ MH/s. You can actually get 19.5 MH/s at -ethi 4 in Claymore, but the cards will run hot. They also get 500 H/s+ on Cryptonite and 195 H/s Equihash each.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2520971.msg25750026#msg25750026

There are also newer cards you can use that can give you a much better ROI than paying $600 for a RX 580.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb6B_qpr180

[androstan1234]

$200 more for a 1070 is worth it.

Edit:  Do not pay $600+ for a 580.  Do not pay $800+ for a 1070.  Don't do it.

Take that money and just buy the coin.

[Diss]

Paying over double MSRP just to get ~30 MH/s doesn't sound very smart to me. Especially when the next gen cards are about to be released in less than 2 months for Nvidia and 6 months for AMD. Once the new cards come out, you would be lucky to get $200 for a used RX 580.

The HD 7850 can easily get 17-18 MH/s on Ethash (<2GB Dag). Six cards will give you 108+ MH/s. You can actually get 19.5 MH/s at -ethi 4 in Claymore, but the cards will run hot. They also get 500 H/s+ on Cryptonite and 195 H/s Equihash each.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2520971.msg25750026#msg25750026

There are also newer cards you can use that can give you a much better ROI than paying $600 for a RX 580.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb6B_qpr180

https://image.ibb.co/d1bGQn/HD7850_UBQ.png

Well it doesn't sound smart to me either, that's why I'm here asking the questions lol.

Thanks for the info about these other cards, but still they are pretty hard to get over here, it's a small country and most of the people are crazy about RX series and 1060+ series and that's what people are selling the most now.

[chandrarahmadewa]

Based on my experience, whatever brand 580 8Gb would have power hashing around 30-31 may almost 32 after mod and OC. I have 3 different brand 580 8Gb with 3 different Vram, Hynix, Samsung, and Micron. So far micron is the best on my rig (31.xx Mhs on Ethash), Samsung and Hynix 30.xx on Ethash with Copying strap 1750 and OC.

IMO, if you waiting to get cheaper prices, you will lose time. except you have guaranteed to get a cheaper price in the future.