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September 17, 2013, 12:13:03 PM
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So, yesterday my company's wallet was either bruteforced or somehow hacked....We lost 15BTC which was most of our coding fees down the drain.

We are not left with an abandoned project, unhappy coders and bankruptcy.

Does anyone know any ideas or have any suggestions on what to do now? Any ways of trying at least to earn the money back?

15BTC is a lot of money (in my eyes anyway) and I don't believe that it is fair for it to be taken from under my feet.

I had 2 factor auth on and my email linked...still didn't manage to protect my wallet.
I have no rat/keylogger on my PC (Mac OS X) and I have scanned multiple times.

reported to blockchain and they can't do anything about it.

If anyone can help, ANYONE, I will be GREATLY appreciative, even of your suggestions.

Thank you.

- Alison
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September 17, 2013, 12:15:39 PM
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Im sorry, You will most probably never get back those coins.
The only really secure solution is to have cold storage for the wallets.
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September 17, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
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http://bitcoinarmory.com/
"Armory provide a first-of-its-kind interface for easily managing offline wallets. You can create your wallet on a computer that never touches the internet, yet still manage the wallet from an online computer with minimal risk of an attacker stealing your funds. By keeping all the private-key data on the offline computer, only someone with physical access to the offline computer can steal your Bitcoin. And even if someone physically stole your offline system, it might take centuries for them to get through the advanced wallet encryption!"
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September 17, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
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Something does not add up.

2FA enabled? This sounds like someone with physical access did it. As in, you were logged in and they snuck on and took them while you walked away or whatnot.

But I want to talk about 'fair'. This is the epitome of fair. You're responsible for your security. Just like everyone else. If your wallet was stolen then this is a repercussion of your actions, no one else.

If that is somehow unfair then you're asking for special treatment.
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September 17, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
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So you used blockchain online wallet? I don't trust online wallet, just in case they closed down then you no longer have your wallet.

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September 17, 2013, 12:51:34 PM
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So, yesterday my company's wallet was either bruteforced or somehow hacked....We lost 15BTC which was most of our coding fees down the drain.

We are not left with an abandoned project, unhappy coders and bankruptcy.

Does anyone know any ideas or have any suggestions on what to do now? Any ways of trying at least to earn the money back?

15BTC is a lot of money (in my eyes anyway) and I don't believe that it is fair for it to be taken from under my feet.

I had 2 factor auth on and my email linked...still didn't manage to protect my wallet.
I have no rat/keylogger on my PC (Mac OS X) and I have scanned multiple times.

reported to blockchain and they can't do anything about it.

If anyone can help, ANYONE, I will be GREATLY appreciative, even of your suggestions.

Thank you.

- Alison

What address were they stolen from?

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September 17, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
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If your blockchain wallet with 2FA was hacked, you probably do have malware on your computer.

How are you sure that your computer doesn't have a rat? For one, there's a $30 Java RAT that is undetected.
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September 17, 2013, 01:21:19 PM
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So you used blockchain online wallet? I don't trust online wallet, just in case they closed down then you no longer have your wallet.
That is why you always make a backup.


AlisonZ, like people have said before me, the only 100% (not really but close enough) sure way of not having your funds stolen is to have your wallet completely detached from the internet. That can be done with either armory or electrum wallets.
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September 17, 2013, 01:26:05 PM
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Saw this a coming mile away.....hopefully noone lent you that

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September 17, 2013, 03:33:32 PM
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We lost 15BTC which

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 bankruptcy.


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September 17, 2013, 03:54:01 PM
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We lost 15BTC which

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laff
Haha not cool man people like you need to shut up this guy just lost all of his funds for his coding and you are laughing? Fuckin people..
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September 17, 2013, 04:32:02 PM
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Sorry to hear that, I don't think there's anything much you can do to get it back.  If you're in Hong Kong I heard someone say something about reporting bitcoin thefts to cybercrime but other than that it's gone.
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September 17, 2013, 04:43:31 PM
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Check my sig for offline wallet instructions.

Guide to armory offline install on USB key:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241730.0
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September 17, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
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We lost 15BTC which

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Haha not cool man people like you need to shut up this guy just lost all of his funds for his coding and you are laughing? Fuckin people..

You should probably read more. For instance the threads where this guy is outed a scammer, you easy target.

Also, again: "all of this funds for his coding" ... "15 BTC" .... laff
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September 17, 2013, 04:52:49 PM
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You should probably read more. For instance the threads where this guy is outed a scammer, you easy target.

Also, again: "all of this funds for his coding" ... "15 BTC" .... laff

How could you doubt this poor victim after reading their lengthy and creditable post history?

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September 17, 2013, 05:04:20 PM
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OP has a scam account

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September 17, 2013, 05:06:42 PM
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no one notice that (s)he will b "GREATLY Appreciative",  wink wink nudge nudge Cheesy

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September 17, 2013, 05:12:56 PM
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This is hysterically funny. This same lady posted recently that:

"I may be new here, but my intentions are quite clear and I plan on being here to make successful business with future business partners.
A highly experience team of professional programmers and marketers, along with myself, are in the process of developing a NEW Online wallet solution that is quick, easy and extremely profitable for future users."

Now she manages to lose her BTC from her online wallet and has never heard of cold storage. Doesn't exactly inspire trust in her "New online wallet solution"

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September 17, 2013, 05:16:37 PM
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I had 2 factor auth on and my email linked...still didn't manage to protect my wallet.

You are using Blockchain.info's My Wallet then?  If so, know that the wallet isn't encrypted with two factor, and instead that 2FA is only used to restrict access to your account from the website.   So if you had any wallet backups (wallet.aes.json file) anywhere (e.g., in an e-mail inbox) they could be decrypted simply with the password by anyone with access to that backup.

Online wallets, such as Blockchain.info (a hybrid online E-Wallet), Inputs.io (a hosted / shared E-Wallet), and exchange accounts (e.g., the E-Wallet at BITSTAMP) are great for their convenience but that convenience comes with a trade-off for security.  As such, the amount of funds stored with them should be limited to whatever amount is needed for spending, trading, etc., and the funds held for longer term investment / storage should be stored locally on a secure system or in cold storage / offline preferably.

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September 17, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
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No, we don't help scammers.  Sorry.
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