Why Is Everyone So Surprised?

[FinShaggy]

Sure, we painted a picture of the Russians as communist bears wearing fur coats, who lived in ice and shit. Then we pictured a small group of them as wealthy elite "black baggers", eating feasts and driving gold cars. But most of that was just us trying to bump Capitalism and bash Communism.

But you all know that after WW II, AMERICA took all the Nazi scientists... AMERICA took all the refugees (we find war criminals here all the time)... AMERICA took the national pride... AMERICA took imperial status...

We ARE the Nazis, so why the fuck is everyone so surprised that Vladimir Putin is more human that Obama? Russia was basically to Germany, what it is to us now. Germany was communist, Russia was communist. But Germany was the one that really looked like a bunch of pricks. Now America is democratic, and Russia is democratic. And we are the ones that look like a bunch of pricks.

We think we are special.
Our elite are proud.
We shouldn't be surprised.

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[BitCoiner2012]

Most aren't surprised, they continue their march of delusion. Those that are haven't been paying any attention whatsoever, too busy with the Colosseum.

[FinShaggy]

My own thread just made me want to go to Russia.

[FinShaggy]

I want to let American's know some things about us:

1. We are DOCILE. This is not an opinion, it is an observation. I will explain.

America:
You vote (as your big attempt to change the world), keep your vote secret (as you get older), you watch TV, use Google and have a smart phone right?

Mexico:
They vote (but their votes don't matter, it's all rigged and they all know it), They putt signs for their political party on their cars on EVERY telephone poll (sometimes 5 of the same ad on one poll) and on buildings, they FIGHT over their political alignment, The children hold massive socialist rallies which is easy because everyone gathers for stuff all the time in Mexico, they talk about politics OUTSIDE THEIR COUNTRY and actually CARE...

I mean, do I need to go on?

[FinShaggy]

2. We are NOT the land of the "free"

America:
McDonald's on every corner and Wal Mart in every town, but also red light cameras at every corner
Cops busting your balls because you go 5 miles over the speed limit, or forget to use a blinker
A society that claims to be equal, but is really only equal if you want the same things as everyone else (to cheat some system or win some game you think exists, simply because you have enough money to believe in things like that, poor people are shit out of luck for equality)
Drinking age is 21
We do have tons of internet access and available wifi

Mexico:
You have to travel long distances to get certain items, but it's usually cheaper.
The police can be paid, some people see this as corruption, I see it as understanding. People don't need a police record for drinking while driving, or because they have a joint. There are other solutions to small problems.
A society that is almost truly equal. Yes there is still a money gap, but the police hang out with the stoners, and the gang members go to church.
I don't even know if there is a drinking age
They have a lot less internet access and cell phone towers, but way more ancient history and modern culture.

[BitCoiner2012]

2. We are NOT the land of the "free"

America:
McDonald's on every corner and Wal Mart in every town, but also red light cameras at every corner
Cops busting your balls because you go 5 miles over the speed limit, or forget to use a blinker
A society that claims to be equal, but is really only equal if you want the same things as everyone else (to cheat some system or win some game you think exists, simply because you have enough money to believe in things like that)
Drinking age is 21
We to have tons of internet access and available wifi

Mexico:
You have to travel long distances to get certain items, but it's usually cheaper.
The police can be paid, some people see this as corruption, I see it as understanding. People don't need a police record for drinking while driving, or because they have a joint. There are other solutions to small problems.
A society that is almost truly equal. Yes there is still a money gap, but the police hang out with the stoners, and the gang members go to church.
I don't even know if there is a drinking age
They have a lot less internet access and cell phone towers, but way more ancient history and modern culture.

The solution isn't bribery, it is rescinding the power of authorities to exploit you and steal your money. Instead we've institutionalized this mentality and glorified it on the Colosseum (COPS, where LEOS bag up drugs and trick people into buying them, while watchers cheer until their son can't get a job, can't vote, and has his constitutional rights rescinded as a second class citizen. Not so glorious then, is it?)

And I love traffic tickets, camped out cops looking to steal grocery money from families that can't afford to further subsidize the state - they've already been stolen from every step of the way before even getting the traffic ticket. License to drive on King's road, registered vehicle necessary for King's road, once registered must have insurance for the King's cronies! All that to be extorted by your neighbor who thinks he is doing, essentially, God's work because he's been indoctrinated to the institutionalized robbery and terror of their neighbors, while being gifted a firearm (god forbid you have one as a private citizen, SUSPICIOUS CALL DHS) and nearly unlimited psychological authority.

[FinShaggy]

3. We are run by a mafia style organization.

When I was in Mexico, Obama signed something allowing the DEA/ATF to take a bunch of guns into Mexico, in order to get the names of some big ticket cartel guys. So they take the guns down, and they give them to the cartel and they tell them to come back with the information they need. They cartel just keeps the fucking guns.

So The Mexican president was on TV, and someone translated for me and said he was basically saying "Why did Obama allow this? We have federales and policia, we could have been involved and handled it." Then about a week later a new political party got "elected", and the political party DOESN'T change in Mexico, unless something crazy happens with guns and power.

Plus, Obama campaigned for "Change", in America right? We are just getting poorer and poorer, while he goes around the world (not literally) killing people like Bin Laden and Qaddafi. And who gets put in charge in those regions? No one fuckin tells us... But Obama knows.

[FinShaggy]

2. We are NOT the land of the "free"

America:
McDonald's on every corner and Wal Mart in every town, but also red light cameras at every corner
Cops busting your balls because you go 5 miles over the speed limit, or forget to use a blinker
A society that claims to be equal, but is really only equal if you want the same things as everyone else (to cheat some system or win some game you think exists, simply because you have enough money to believe in things like that)
Drinking age is 21
We to have tons of internet access and available wifi

Mexico:
You have to travel long distances to get certain items, but it's usually cheaper.
The police can be paid, some people see this as corruption, I see it as understanding. People don't need a police record for drinking while driving, or because they have a joint. There are other solutions to small problems.
A society that is almost truly equal. Yes there is still a money gap, but the police hang out with the stoners, and the gang members go to church.
I don't even know if there is a drinking age
They have a lot less internet access and cell phone towers, but way more ancient history and modern culture.

The solution isn't bribery, it is rescinding the power of authorities to exploit you and steal your money. Instead we've institutionalized this mentality and glorified it on the Colosseum (COPS, where LEOS bag up drugs and trick people into buying them, while watchers cheer until their son can't get a job, can't vote, and has his constitutional rights rescinded as a second class citizen. Not so glorious then, is it?)

And I love traffic tickets, camped out cops looking to steal grocery money from families that can't afford to further subsidize the state - they've already been stolen from every step of the way before even getting the traffic ticket. License to drive on King's road, registered vehicle necessary for King's road, once registered must have insurance for the King's cronies! All that to be extorted by your neighbor who thinks he is doing, essentially, God's work because he's been indoctrinated to the institutionalized robbery and terror of their neighbors, while being gifted a firearm (god forbid you have one as a private citizen, SUSPICIOUS CALL DHS) and nearly unlimited psychological authority.

I never suggested any solutions, please recognize that this is a "compare and contrast" type thing.

[BitCoiner2012]

2. We are NOT the land of the "free"

America:
McDonald's on every corner and Wal Mart in every town, but also red light cameras at every corner
Cops busting your balls because you go 5 miles over the speed limit, or forget to use a blinker
A society that claims to be equal, but is really only equal if you want the same things as everyone else (to cheat some system or win some game you think exists, simply because you have enough money to believe in things like that)
Drinking age is 21
We to have tons of internet access and available wifi

Mexico:
You have to travel long distances to get certain items, but it's usually cheaper.
The police can be paid, some people see this as corruption, I see it as understanding. People don't need a police record for drinking while driving, or because they have a joint. There are other solutions to small problems.
A society that is almost truly equal. Yes there is still a money gap, but the police hang out with the stoners, and the gang members go to church.
I don't even know if there is a drinking age
They have a lot less internet access and cell phone towers, but way more ancient history and modern culture.

The solution isn't bribery, it is rescinding the power of authorities to exploit you and steal your money. Instead we've institutionalized this mentality and glorified it on the Colosseum (COPS, where LEOS bag up drugs and trick people into buying them, while watchers cheer until their son can't get a job, can't vote, and has his constitutional rights rescinded as a second class citizen. Not so glorious then, is it?)

And I love traffic tickets, camped out cops looking to steal grocery money from families that can't afford to further subsidize the state - they've already been stolen from every step of the way before even getting the traffic ticket. License to drive on King's road, registered vehicle necessary for King's road, once registered must have insurance for the King's cronies! All that to be extorted by your neighbor who thinks he is doing, essentially, God's work because he's been indoctrinated to the institutionalized robbery and terror of their neighbors, while being gifted a firearm (god forbid you have one as a private citizen, SUSPICIOUS CALL DHS) and nearly unlimited psychological authority.

I never suggested any solutions, please recognize that this is a "compare and contrast" type thing.

Did you not imply that briber was "better" than no bribery? They still have the authority in this scenario, nothing is achieved except extraction of your wealth (what you were looking to avoid to begin with).

[FinShaggy]

Did you not imply that briber was "better" than no bribery? They still have the authority in this scenario, nothing is achieved except extraction of your wealth (what you were looking to avoid to begin with).

No, I was simply explaining something about America to Americans, and needed something to compare it to so they could see the difference.

Again. I never suggested a solution, stop acting like I'm wrong about something.

[BitCoiner2012]

Did you not imply that briber was "better" than no bribery? They still have the authority in this scenario, nothing is achieved except extraction of your wealth (what you were looking to avoid to begin with).

No, I was simply explaining something about America to Americans, and needed something to compare it to so they could see the difference.

Again. I never suggested a solution, stop acting like I'm wrong about something.

I'm not, you're quite defensive. I'll leave you to talk to yourself in here.

[FinShaggy]

Did you not imply that briber was "better" than no bribery? They still have the authority in this scenario, nothing is achieved except extraction of your wealth (what you were looking to avoid to begin with).

No, I was simply explaining something about America to Americans, and needed something to compare it to so they could see the difference.

Again. I never suggested a solution, stop acting like I'm wrong about something.

I'm not, you're quite defensive. I'll leave you to talk to yourself in here.

I was not being defensive, though I was defending myself. You DID start it when you said"Nothing is acheived except extraction of your wealth, (what you were looking to avoid to begin with) "....

First off... That is NOT what I was looking to avoid. I was looking to "avoid" the police record, and the jail. That is what was mentioned.

Second... I was not "trying to avoid" anything, I was NOT making a point about Mexico or it being better. I was making a point about America, and it being not what it seems...

Third... You still haven't even really talked about any of the topics of this thread.

[wdmw]

Did you not imply that briber was "better" than no bribery? They still have the authority in this scenario, nothing is achieved except extraction of your wealth (what you were looking to avoid to begin with).

No, I was simply explaining something about America to Americans, and needed something to compare it to so they could see the difference.

Again. I never suggested a solution, stop acting like I'm wrong about something.

I'm not, you're quite defensive. I'll leave you to talk to yourself in here.

OMG!  Stop asking questions and just wait for the next video!  He will have already explained it there and he wasn't saying anything about that and why are you arguing?

[Wilikon]

Sure, we painted a picture of the Russians as communist bears wearing fur coats, who lived in ice and shit. Then we pictured a small group of them as wealthy elite "black baggers", eating feasts and driving gold cars. But most of that was just us trying to bump Capitalism and bash Communism.

But you all know that after WW II, AMERICA took all the Nazi scientists... AMERICA took all the refugees (we find war criminals here all the time)... AMERICA took the national pride... AMERICA took imperial status...

We ARE the Nazis, so why the fuck is everyone so surprised that Vladimir Putin is more human that Obama? Russia was basically to Germany, what it is to us now. Germany was communist, Russia was communist. But Germany was the one that really looked like a bunch of pricks. Now America is democratic, and Russia is democratic. And we are the ones that look like a bunch of pricks.

We think we are special.
Our elite are proud.
We shouldn't be surprised.

Garry Kasparov was not surprised.
The Pussy Riots were not surprised.
The Wiki listing of journalists killed in Russia was not surprised.
Mikhail Khodorkovsky was not surprised.
Alexei Navalny was not surprised.
Etc, etc... were not surprised

[MAbtc]

We ...? 

[FinShaggy]

Sure, we painted a picture of the Russians as communist bears wearing fur coats, who lived in ice and shit. Then we pictured a small group of them as wealthy elite "black baggers", eating feasts and driving gold cars. But most of that was just us trying to bump Capitalism and bash Communism.

But you all know that after WW II, AMERICA took all the Nazi scientists... AMERICA took all the refugees (we find war criminals here all the time)... AMERICA took the national pride... AMERICA took imperial status...

We ARE the Nazis, so why the fuck is everyone so surprised that Vladimir Putin is more human that Obama? Russia was basically to Germany, what it is to us now. Germany was communist, Russia was communist. But Germany was the one that really looked like a bunch of pricks. Now America is democratic, and Russia is democratic. And we are the ones that look like a bunch of pricks.

We think we are special.
Our elite are proud.
We shouldn't be surprised.

Garry Kasparov was not surprised.
The Pussy Riots were not surprised.
The Wiki listing of journalists killed in Russia was not surprised.
Mikhail Khodorkovsky was not surprised.
Alexei Navalny was not surprised.
Etc, etc... were not surprised

Ok, but the TV is surprised, and Putin is getting a lot of hate whether those 6 groups were surprised or not.

[ronimacarroni]

The US is not going to attack Syria nor any other country for the following reasons.

1.We don't have the money
2.The public is sick of it
3.the military is sick of it

Europe- you're now free to become fascists.
Latin America- you're now free to become communists.
Asia-You're now free to become... whatever China is.
Middle east- you're now free to become theocratic dictatorships.

Also you're free to invade each other.

enjoy.

[Wilikon]

Sure, we painted a picture of the Russians as communist bears wearing fur coats, who lived in ice and shit. Then we pictured a small group of them as wealthy elite "black baggers", eating feasts and driving gold cars. But most of that was just us trying to bump Capitalism and bash Communism.

But you all know that after WW II, AMERICA took all the Nazi scientists... AMERICA took all the refugees (we find war criminals here all the time)... AMERICA took the national pride... AMERICA took imperial status...

We ARE the Nazis, so why the fuck is everyone so surprised that Vladimir Putin is more human that Obama? Russia was basically to Germany, what it is to us now. Germany was communist, Russia was communist. But Germany was the one that really looked like a bunch of pricks. Now America is democratic, and Russia is democratic. And we are the ones that look like a bunch of pricks.

We think we are special.
Our elite are proud.
We shouldn't be surprised.

Garry Kasparov was not surprised.
The Pussy Riots were not surprised.
The Wiki listing of journalists killed in Russia was not surprised.
Mikhail Khodorkovsky was not surprised.
Alexei Navalny was not surprised.
Etc, etc... were not surprised

Ok, but the TV is surprised, and Putin is getting a lot of hate whether those 6 groups were surprised or not.

Obama is a pussy and that was not a surprise from someone who voted present most of his politician life. The Russians and Mr KGB want their glory back, something that never existed for the people at large. Not under Putin, not under Soviet regime, not under the Tzars.
When someone is responsible for the killing of your wife or family or putting you in jail I would guess it is a bit normal those "6 groups" fill a little "annoyed" by how Putin "took" care of them.

That say I confess I am fascinated by Russia and Putin and how they deal with the bad guys. Some terrorists take a cinema and everyone inside hostage? Gas the whole theater, hopefully some will survive. Some Somalian pirates keep on attacking Russian ships? Let some come on board and make sure the ones on their little boats see how their comrades bodies are used for fish bait and their blood washed away with hoses from the deck. Hey! Some ex FSB double agent is double (or is it triple?) crossing you in the UK? Make sure his dies from a strong dose of polonium very slowly. I mean how can you not find all of these badass? In your face Stupid UN!
Then you realize no freedom of press, no 2nd amendment, no freedom of speech make all of those cool badass actions possible in Russia.

[FinShaggy]

The US is not going to attack Syria nor any other country for the following reasons.

1.We don't have the money
2.The public is sick of it
3.the military is sick of it

Europe- you're now free to become fascists.
Latin America- you're now free to become communists.
Asia-You're now free to become... whatever China is.
Middle east- you're now free to become theocratic dictatorships.

Also you're free to invade each other.

enjoy.

LOL LOL LOL

We won't attack BECAUSE we don't have the money? We go to war to MAKE money, lol.

And you don't really need money to go to war, you need bombs. And we have plenty of those... That's why we don't have any money.

[MAbtc]

The US is not going to attack Syria nor any other country for the following reasons.

1.We don't have the money
2.The public is sick of it
3.the military is sick of it

You're just trolling, right? If not...

We do have the money, in the form of debt tied to future taxes, which are paid to the players in the war industry.

It doesn't matter what the public thinks. It doesn't matter what "the military" thinks in the sense of "people in the military". It matters what power-holders think, and how much money can be made.