POPULATION

[beej]

How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

I think people have to adapt, there are disadvantages and advantages in a overpopulated
environment and community. Just go with a positive outlook on how things would benefit
you and your interest. The downside of overpopulated areas is the pollution and garbage
waste, in my country that is the main problem and it comes with severe consequences.
Though as people grow old, they would seek a lesser populated and milder environment.

[Naida_BR]

How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

It is very hard to accomplish that, especially if you don't like overcrowded places.
You have to understand that there are limits set by others and yourself so everyone should respect them. If this is the case you are going to live comfortable and not be bothered by anyone.

[BADecker]

See https://duckduckgo.com/?q=population+control%2C+developing+underground+&t=h_&ia=web.

These 8 Hidden Underground Cities Are Groundbreaking (Literally) - https://www.zipcar.com/ziptopia/future-city/eight-hidden-underground-cities.

You can figure out searches that do better than this, on showing how we can live underground successfully. There is no end to underground room for living. And that isn't even taking into account above ocean-bed living in the seas.

[Mometaskers]

I remember getting told a few similar statements. "Everyone has a sign on their head saying 'I'm special'", and "Every person you see walking down the street is a wallet".

IMHO, a large population only becomes a problem if resources are not managed properly and if you allow the population to be a liability (not disciplining and training them).

The sense I get from most of these earth-is-gonna-die eco types is "There is just the right number of me and way to many of you."  They can make careers out of trying to figure out how to stop the darkies from breeding and often they do.

The problem with 'over populations' is that people get what they need to survive.  Total spend is cost/head * heads.  Twice as many heads means half the profit from one's pineapple plantations.  You can reduce the cost/head, but you get closer and closer to revolt then you have to spend a lot on paramilitary operations and the like.

My country is in one of those listed. Sickening to think of how low people would stoop for these resources.

And the thing is, these "elites" are mostly doing it just to maintain their positions. They're own populace need to be satisfied enough so they make sure that goods can be taken cheaply from elsewhere.

Not that they treat their own people better. They just need to be satisfied enough to keep working.

[erikalui]

It's choking especially when it takes 2 hours to travel 16 km away from home and in the evening it's miserable as it takes upto 4 hours. You can't be comfortable unless you're always at home.

[creepyjas]

How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Isolate. Fix your home or try going out to the woods and explore the nature once in a while.

[yazher]

It's choking especially when it takes 2 hours to travel 16 km away from home and in the evening it's miserable as it takes upto 4 hours. You can't be comfortable unless you're always at home.

We feel the pressure especially in the rush hour where workers are going home after a long day of work. You guys are lucky because you have that transport called "Light Rail Transit System" a modern "Train". in our city, we don't have that thing. we only have a small bus called Jeepney. when the rush hour comes, you will see a lot of NBA players, what I mean by that is everyone is jumping on that jeepney when they see it coming. If you are not fast enough, the jeepney would be full as soon as they arrived at the terminal. If it is full, you need to wait for the next one to come. this is one of the pressure we are facing every day. Guess why? it is because of the massive population in our country.

[tvbcof]

It's choking especially when it takes 2 hours to travel 16 km away from home and in the evening it's miserable as it takes upto 4 hours. You can't be comfortable unless you're always at home.

We feel the pressure especially in the rush hour where workers are going home after a long day of work. You guys are lucky because you have that transport called "Light Rail Transit System" a modern "Train". in our city, we don't have that thing. we only have a small bus called Jeepney. when the rush hour comes, you will see a lot of NBA players, what I mean by that is everyone is jumping on that jeepney when they see it coming. If you are not fast enough, the jeepney would be full as soon as they arrived at the terminal. If it is full, you need to wait for the next one to come. this is one of the pressure we are facing every day. Guess why? it is because of the massive population in our country.

In my observation, most Filipinos do NOT live with a 4 hour jeepney ride every day.  Just like in any country, some people choose to live in densely populated areas like metro Manila.  They both reap the rewards and suffer the consequences of their choices.  For people who live in free countries and who have freedom of movement it's a little bit disingenuous to live in a big city than bitch about overpopulation.

I would say that the problems the country has do not stem primarily from over-population.  More from distribution of wealth issues which themselves spring from power balance issues.  Corruption has a lot to do with it it appears to me, and more critically, people's tolerance of it.  There are other things as well.  One of them the 'crab mentality' issue which has been mentioned before on this board.  The peeps grab the nearest person to them to drag them down just like crabs, and inevitably that is someone in their own category.  Support your fellow citizen in their efforts instead and see what happens to the society.

A bigger issue yet is 'brain drain'.  Hopefully with a stronger sense of nationalism more people will stick it out in The Philippines, or at least be more likely to come back eventually.  As I see it The Philippines has suffered vast damage from a campaign of 'demoralization' which is a Soviet term for a long running psychological operation to get the population ready for a revolution.  Who, if anyone, ran such a putative campaign and for what reason is unknown to me.

If low population density was the key to happiness the Mongolians would be a lot better off than they are.

[FlamingFingers]

If you wanna leave comfortable in an over populated area,  you've got to figure out how to isolate yourself,  perhaps you find a working place close to your home or you work from home,

[darkangel11]

You should ask the Japanese, they are masters at this fine art. There's even a trend of building micro apartments in places where the land is very expensive. In the UK more and more people are choosing boats instead of normal houses because it's cheaper to buy an old boat, turn it into a house and live in one of the canals than buy a flat in London.



I used to live in big cities but now prefer to live in the suburbs where there's hardly anybody around. The less people there are the more nature you can see around you taking back what belongs to it. Overcrowded places are so loud and smelly.

[BADecker]

^^^ But will there always be room to do this? Are the oceans really that vast?

[inanilujimi]

comfort can be obtained if we can have what we want.
in a dense population we can take advantage of opportunities to make business and socialize with people in our environment.

[yazher]

You should ask the Japanese, they are masters at this fine art. There's even a trend of building micro apartments in places where the land is very expensive. In the UK more and more people are choosing boats instead of normal houses because it's cheaper to buy an old boat, turn it into a house and live in one of the canals than buy a flat in London.

We already have this kind of house in our city in the village called Rio Hondo, where people are actually building their houses on the seashore.
The reason behind this is the same, it is because of the expensive land. Most of the people cannot afford to live in a land anymore. If you build your house there, you will not pay for the place where you build your house.

[tvbcof]

We already have this kind of house in our city in the village called Rio Hondo, where people are actually building their houses on the seashore.
The reason behind this is the same, it is because of the expensive land. Most of the people cannot afford to live in a land anymore. If you build your house there, you will not pay for the place where you build your house.

I spent my first year of life in such a dwelling (U.S. state of Alaska).  Part of the reason people built that way was that one could shit through a hole on the back porch and it fall right onto the beach.  Same with trash.  Twice a day the tide would come in and wash everything away.  The other part of the reason was that the terrain was very rugged so building a platform over the beach was a way to achieve a level elevation.

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The funny thing about your picture is that in the background one can see a huge amount of dry land seemingly without a soul on it.

I would suggest that TPTB have engineered an artificial scarcity of dry land through various 'land use planning' and what-not.  Happy days for the real estate barons who heavily fund and thus guide various aspects of the 'green agenda'.

Happy days also for the landless bureaucrats TPTB hire who get to play like they actually own something by telling others what they can and cannot do with the land they pay taxes on.

[yazher]

The funny thing about your picture is that in the background one can see a huge amount of dry land seemingly without a soul on it.

That part of the city is secured zone, We cannot enter there, a lot of soldiers are roaming in the area. You cannot set footstep on that part, the consequences is you will get yourself shot. there are rumors that they are operating something there. some say, that they are mining gold or any kind of Minerals. I don't know, I didn't go that far though I live in this city for almost 20 years.

[tvbcof]

The funny thing about your picture is that in the background one can see a huge amount of dry land seemingly without a soul on it.

That part of the city is secured zone, We cannot enter there, a lot of soldiers are roaming in the area. You cannot set footstep on that part, the consequences is you will get yourself shot. there are rumors that they are operating something there. some say, that they are mining gold or any kind of Minerals. I don't know, I didn't go that far though I live in this city for almost 20 years.

The idea behind United Nations 'Agenda 21' is to concentrate the peeps into extremely dense areas and keep the resource producing areas strictly off-limits.

By consolidating the peeps they are much easier to manage and control, and the out-of-pocket expense per head of keeping them is much reduced.  Not unlike 'factory farming' of hogs.  A hog's lifespan is optimized to achieve the highest efficiency, and pharmaceuticals are key to various kinds of operations.

A side benefit of compacting people into limited space is that you can propagandize them into believing that there is 'overpopulation' and present yourself (the ruling class) as the savior who will 'save the earth' as justification for your station in life...as the 'visioners'.  People who have not traveled much and only watch mainstream media will eat it up.  We see that in the various comments here.

[BADecker]

^^^ The point is that there is no population problem. All there is, is inconvenience and population control by leaders.

Time to move to land areas that are free from great population.Take a few families with you so that you can support each other in times of need.

[Magkirap]

How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

You need to be strategic and adopt the changes in the environment. Actually living in a populated environment doesn't mean that you will not be comfortable. And by the way what kind of comfortable do you mean? Do you mean financially? If yes what you need to do is to be unmaterialistic and disciplined. A friend of mine share what was his strategy to earn money. He said I just need to make something as an asset not as a liability.

[tvbcof]

How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

You need to be strategic and adopt the changes in the environment.

You really need to understand who the 'change agents' are and what, exactly their end-goal is.

Actually, most 'change agents' are themselves clueless pawns.  You really need to look to a relatively high level to see the big picture.  Much work is done through so-called 'NGO's and 'public/private partnerships'.  Look into the funding of these to unravel the thread.

On a personal level, once you see the big picture and the trajectory you will be better prepared to make good multi-decade choices which will give you the quality of life you think you want.  And take sides politically at some level if you choose to.  It is perfectly possible that most people will choose the 'managed human habitiat' option (and later the 'singularity' stuff.)  I would just say that people should realize that there is deep marketing science used by those pushing this option and it is almost certain that there is a degree of 'bait and switch'.  Probably a huge degree of it.

[iamsheikhadil]

It's so hard to be honest. I live in one of the most populated city in the second largest country in the world. The constant honking of cars, crowds at bus, train, the constant staring of people at you for no reason are too much to bear sometimes lol. I wish I was in a calm environment. There is actually no strategy to adjust because it's just impossible and hence, best is to collect resources and buy a private alone island