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November 03, 2019, 02:11:22 PM
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If you can get naturally occurring hydrogen gas from the ground or elsewhere as you can get oil, then we can talk about comparing a diesel engine to a nuclear fusion reactor.
Until then it is money burning operation.

Fusion works because if you force two atoms together, the output is one new atom and a shit-ton of energy (the actual figure may be more or less than one metric shit-ton, but it's still a lot).
The main isotope of hydrogen used for fusion is deuterium, which can be extracted from seawater. Tritium I think is also used, but can be 'bred' inside the reactor. The energy source is cheap and for all practical purposes infinite.


The poor guys is all mixed up, but he's at least trying.  That's more than can be said for most people.

"Deuterium can easily be extracted from seawater, where 1 in 6700 hydrogen atoms is deuterium."  from: https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/fusion-energy-future

At least he is starting to see the 'perpetually 40 years out' scam.  In fact it was right around 40 years ago that I was reading about the threshold of energy in/energy out in a tokamak was being crossed.  The 'energy out' was not being harnessed in the test reactor of course, but it the reaction was producing as much energy as it took to maintain the plasma.  That's the way I remember the story at least.


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November 03, 2019, 05:16:51 PM
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How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Stay humble is all I say for an overpopulated area. Stay close to your friends and relatives. Don't take much space. Segregate your waste and dispose it off properly. Stay updated , stay safe.

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November 03, 2019, 08:09:47 PM
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How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Stay humble is all I say for an overpopulated area. Stay close to your friends and relatives. Don't take much space. Segregate your waste and dispose it off properly. Stay updated , stay safe.



If you use plastic bags to dispose of some of your waste, make sure they are biodegradable.

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How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Stay humble is all I say for an overpopulated area. Stay close to your friends and relatives. Don't take much space. Segregate your waste and dispose it off properly. Stay updated , stay safe.



If you use plastic bags to dispose of some of your waste, make sure they are biodegradable.

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Hmmmm... That makes sence
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quick note on the plastic bag thing

the plastic is not a product in itself. its a bi product of the oil->fuel business
whilst people still use and demand car fuel there will always be more plastic being produced.
by creating bags atleast the bi-product of fuel is not going straight to landfill as a waste of fuel production facilities. so if you have plastic bags, use them, reuse them but do not expect to irradicate plastic ending up in landfill.

this is because 'biodegradable' plastic bags is made up of less plastic and more other stuff. meaning a surplus of plastic that would have been used now doesnt so it will just get landfilled at source as a waste of car fuel production.

what people should do is use plastic bags and then find new purposes for them such as an art material

imagine plastic bags were never made and we always used paper sacks.
th bi-product residue from making car fuel would become the car fuel industries 'carbon footprint' but by passing the bi-product on to a plastic bag factory, it then eventually becomes a general publics carbon footprint and we get the blame for not reusing. finding purpose or disposing of the bi-product safely.
an ingenius plan that was by the way

much like sugar.. pepsi puts sugar in bottles to intice peoples sweet tooth
no pepsi buying customer themselves manually adds sugar themselves to the drink...
but yet obesity and diabeties become the fault of the patient not the pepsi company. all because pepsi didnt use force in ramming sugar down peoples throats

oops i digressed
plastic bag 'biodegradable' does not mean it becomes compost that can be used to enrich soils for plant growth.. it just means after a few decades it falls apart into smaller micro plastic pieces. meaning it still contaminates the land... but just as microbeads instead of sitting as a single object
in short. if it too small to see you falsly believe it doesnt exist

or to visually illustrate it. if you have a box of seeds and then spread those seeds soo widely across a field that you falsely believe the box of seeds miraculously biodegraded.. truth is the seeds then still affect the land they seed into.. just not in a small area space of just the footprint of a box

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November 05, 2019, 01:34:59 AM
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How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Stay humble is all I say for an overpopulated area. Stay close to your friends and relatives. Don't take much space. Segregate your waste and dispose it off properly. Stay updated , stay safe.



If you use plastic bags to dispose of some of your waste, make sure they are biodegradable.

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Yeah and don't ever get into arguments with your neighbors especially about religion, politics and culture. Be civil and respectful. Most of the time people only reflect the attitude that others show towards them so, one way to survive in a densely populated area is to be really tolerant. Learn to just turn away.

 
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November 07, 2019, 04:55:19 AM
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How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Stay humble is all I say for an overpopulated area. Stay close to your friends and relatives. Don't take much space. Segregate your waste and dispose it off properly. Stay updated , stay safe.



If you use plastic bags to dispose of some of your waste, make sure they are biodegradable.

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Yeah and don't ever get into arguments with your neighbors especially about religion, politics and culture. Be civil and respectful. Most of the time people only reflect the attitude that others show towards them so, one way to survive in a densely populated area is to be really tolerant. Learn to just turn away.

And you can also get a lot of friends to live comfortable because if you argue to many others then you live in a scared life. From your attitude to others can help you to stay and live without a problem to the sorroundings.
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November 07, 2019, 05:42:30 PM
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How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Stay humble is all I say for an overpopulated area. Stay close to your friends and relatives. Don't take much space. Segregate your waste and dispose it off properly. Stay updated , stay safe.



If you use plastic bags to dispose of some of your waste, make sure they are biodegradable.

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Yeah and don't ever get into arguments with your neighbors especially about religion, politics and culture. Be civil and respectful. Most of the time people only reflect the attitude that others show towards them so, one way to survive in a densely populated area is to be really tolerant. Learn to just turn away.

An argument isn't necessarily a quarrel. To argue means to bring up points. Look at this:

Imagine that you and your buddy go to the lake to go swimming. You are on the beach for the moment, but your buddy goes out for a swim. Suddenly you see your buddy out in the deep part of the water, calling for help, like he is drowning. By the time you swim out to rescue him, he is already out of his mind in a delirious-like panic.

As you near him, he grabs you and tries to climb on top of you, because he sees that you are something that is floating. This drags you down, so you are in danger, yourself.

Argue with him about it? You both want to be saved. And that is what talking about religion and politics does. It clarifies things so that people can be saved.

If you don't want to talk religion and politics, don't go out to your buddy. Stay home. And certainly don't try to save him. After all, you might just get saved yourself.

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November 08, 2019, 11:43:57 AM
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An argument isn't necessarily a quarrel. To argue means to bring up points. [...] that is what talking about religion and politics does. It clarifies things
Absolutely. I may disagree with you on everything else, but I agree on this.

Getting back to the debate - ignoring the cultural side, I still think 'God' is just the collective term for the science we haven't yet uncovered. If you accept some scientific findings, any of them, then you're accepting something that used to be considered the province of God. Science grows from generation to generation, as more of what was once considered God becomes simple explicable fact. God shrinks as science grows, and God will eventually disappear.
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November 08, 2019, 01:48:53 PM
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An argument isn't necessarily a quarrel. To argue means to bring up points. [...] that is what talking about religion and politics does. It clarifies things
Absolutely. I may disagree with you on everything else, but I agree on this.

Getting back to the debate - ignoring the cultural side, I still think 'God' is just the collective term for the science we haven't yet uncovered. If you accept some scientific findings, any of them, then you're accepting something that used to be considered the province of God. Science grows from generation to generation, as more of what was once considered God becomes simple explicable fact. God shrinks as science grows, and God will eventually disappear.


The existence of God has not been proven wrong. As science grows, God may be proven to exist. So far, nobody has checked throughout the universe to prove that God doesn't exist. And, see my post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg53020554#msg53020554.

The fact that all of nature acts as a machine full of machines shows God. Machines have makers.

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November 09, 2019, 11:16:23 AM
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The fact that all of nature acts as a machine full of machines shows God. Machines have makers.

Humans are machines. Made by blind unthinking evolution.
But we're conflating half a dozen discussions here - see you back on the Religion and Evolution threads.
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November 10, 2019, 04:56:27 PM
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How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Stay humble and kind to all around you is what i feel will let you survive in over crowded environment. Live with necessary resources, dont cover much space and desire what you can sustain. Over crowded can be useful if you use it in right way , there is ore competition and knowledge sharing through diversity in culture and ethnicity.
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November 11, 2019, 12:58:08 AM
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The fact that all of nature acts as a machine full of machines shows God. Machines have makers.

Humans are machines. Made by blind unthinking evolution.
But we're conflating half a dozen discussions here - see you back on the Religion and Evolution threads.

How in the world silly can you get? People working with all their best intelligence have difficult times making complex machines. And you think that the complex machines of nature that are far more complex than the ones intelligent mankind makes, are made by "blind unthinking evolution." Quit copying blind unthinking nature." Cheesy

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November 11, 2019, 06:39:46 AM
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you think that the complex machines of nature that are far more complex than the ones intelligent mankind makes, are made by "blind unthinking evolution."

Yes. Evolution. The thing that often throws people is the timescale involved. The evidence is that life on Earth started at least 3.7 billion years ago. And it has been subject to natural selection (plus countless random, mostly negative but occasionally positive) mutations since then. It's not as if, as someone stated on one of these threads 'man came out of a monkey's ass'.
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you think that the complex machines of nature that are far more complex than the ones intelligent mankind makes, are made by "blind unthinking evolution."

Yes. Evolution. The thing that often throws people is the timescale involved. The evidence is that life on Earth started at least 3.7 billion years ago. And it has been subject to natural selection (plus countless random, mostly negative but occasionally positive) mutations since then. It's not as if, as someone stated on one of these threads 'man came out of a monkey's ass'.

The problem with your kind of thinking about the age of the earth and universe is, there is all kinds of evidence that the universe is much shorter. Some of the evidence points at 10,000 years. Since you can do Internet searches that show this, and since you can get deeper by studying the young-earth evidence with those who explain it, believing in a old-universe view is a choice... not reality of an old-universe.

In other words, whatever looks good, and however you want to apply the evidence, is like making a choice to believe whatever you want.

The only way to know how old the universe is, is to believe the witnesses who were there, and recorded their witnessing.

The first two chapters of the Bible were witness records copied by Moses from text in Egyptian libraries about 3,500 years ago. These texts probably have crumbled away with age long ago. But they might still be hidden in some lost Egytian library somewhere... hidden under the desert sands of Egypt.

You can't apply today's evidence without knowing the past parameters that the evidence needs to be applied by. Maybe they are applying the evidence in a wrong way. We won't know until we have witnesses or a time viewer/machine.

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November 13, 2019, 03:47:25 PM
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How to live comfortable in an over populated environment?

Over populated areas lead to scarcity of resources at different levels if not dealt properly. There is fight and increase in prices of land, food and water. Also, healthcare and employment is difficult to serve as demand is high and capital can be less. But there can be some positive outcomes for overpopulated areas like diversity in culture and if we consider a marketplace, more players lead to more competition which leads to competitive pricing and eventually benefits the people.

There are advantage and disadvantage of over population, it creates scarcity yes but it also creates opportunity for most people as you can sell any kinds of staff, good and services as there's a lot demand, just like here in our country wherein it is over populated but created a lot of demand.

It has advantage but there are some supply on the world that are limited because there are some people who destroy the world. I think it will be a nightmare if the population can't stop from multiplying soon by the billion population but the land doesn't increase and we know that it also cause a unemployment which causes some criminal case.
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you think that the complex machines of nature that are far more complex than the ones intelligent mankind makes, are made by "blind unthinking evolution."

Yes. Evolution. The thing that often throws people is the timescale involved. The evidence is that life on Earth started at least 3.7 billion years ago. And it has been subject to natural selection (plus countless random, mostly negative but occasionally positive) mutations since then. It's not as if, as someone stated on one of these threads 'man came out of a monkey's ass'.

The problem with your kind of thinking about the age of the earth and universe is, there is all kinds of evidence that the universe is much shorter. Some of the evidence points at 10,000 years. Since you can do Internet searches that show this, and since you can get deeper by studying the young-earth evidence with those who explain it, believing in a old-universe view is a choice... not reality of an old-universe.

In other words, whatever looks good, and however you want to apply the evidence, is like making a choice to believe whatever you want.

The only way to know how old the universe is, is to believe the witnesses who were there, and recorded their witnessing.

The first two chapters of the Bible were witness records copied by Moses from text in Egyptian libraries about 3,500 years ago. These texts probably have crumbled away with age long ago. But they might still be hidden in some lost Egytian library somewhere... hidden under the desert sands of Egypt.

You can't apply today's evidence without knowing the past parameters that the evidence needs to be applied by. Maybe they are applying the evidence in a wrong way. We won't know until we have witnesses or a time viewer/machine.

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You have such a machine, its called a telescope. Yes, indeed, whatever you see in the sky is already very. very old, much older than 10 thousand years. And the more you "zoom" in, the farther in the past you pry (not just further away).

Time and Space is relative. You think you could make things simple for you to understand it, but the universe does not care, it simply is.

Humans have this bad habit of destroying written history, from the old Chinese emperors, and the typical invasion armies, they can't simply stand seeing thousand years old stuff. Even modern Americans destroyed humanity's oldest writings when they ransacked and destroyed Baghdad's library "for lulz" (and some profit), just like the medievals, and the barbarians, or the romans of the past. It is a miracle "something" remains, as distorted as it may be, from impulsive selection, and several mistranslations (and even oral tradition).

What little remains is because it got buried before conflagration, such as Pompei, which unfortunately was uncovered and is quickly disappearing.

10 thousand years is nonsense. The Earth alone may be 20 million years old, of course most of its history it has been a barren lifeless planet incapable of sustaining life. Formation of this "Solar" system is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old, and where and when was this system formed?

Humanity existence is but a glimpse in the history of "this" universe. We could again ask the question of, where and when this universe got formed... And it doesn't matter what you believe in, those things won't be changing, at least not "here" on this "Universe".

Besides watching, there is also a proven method of time travel, you can travel to the future, but there is no returning. Simply travel to speeds close to the speed of light. Its already known and documented, Einstein's theory worked, as alien as it sounded.

Do you think reality starts with humans and ends with humans? Yours maybe (in your lifetime for that matter), but not the Universe's.

We know Earth is going to be destroyed about 2 billion years from now. I doubt there will be any "humans" left to witness it, either we would have evolved or most likely gone extinct. Dinosaurs lived on this planet, probably much longer than humans ever will. They lived around 200 MILLION years, where puny "humans" have barely been existing for 200 THOUSAND years at most, but you say its just 10, so i guess the other 190 thousand years they were too busy throwing sticks and stones at each other and living in caves etc. The nearest predecessor to humans took a couple of MILLION years to evolve into "human".

We don't know why things work the way they do in this plane existence, but they do.

10 thousand years of recorded history, but only because the Jews were more zealous to keep their oral tradition going, AND escaped being wiped by others. A sect from them ended funding Christianity, which in turn compiled (the parts they liked) into that book already coming from oral tradition from different languages than the ones used by whoever wrote them, and then again translated, and translated, and translated... and re-translated...

Did you ever stopped to ask what language that Moses actually spoke? If you want to get a bit closer, get to the source, the jews, don't be dismayed by the contradictions you may uncover. Remember this, the bible is not the source, its the copy, a really, really bad copy. Its valuable, but to a limited extent. Even the jew scripture is already altered, by their oral tradition since the times of Moses to the times of "Jesus", AND language changes (or do you think thousands of years would preserve the language intact?). And what language you think the contemporaries of Jesus were speaking? and their followers? Which was the official language (roman empire, remember?) Greek? Latin? Aremaic? a mixture? What about Hebrew?

Read this:
The name Jesus is derived from the Latin Iesus, a transliteration of the Greek Ἰησoῦς (Iesous). The Greek form is a rendering of the Hebrew ישוע‎ (Yeshua), a variant of the earlier name יהושע‎ (Yehoshua), or in English, "Joshua", meaning "Yah saves". This was also the name of Moses' successor and of a Jewish high priest in the Old Testament.
If they made this giant mess with just THE name (everyone calling him Jesus is misnaming him) imagine what they did with the rest...

Have you ever tried reading the other books that were taken out from the bible, written by the same authors? Have you ever read Jesus "Lord's prayer" translated from Aramaic? You are in for a shock, given that Christianity is supposed to be based on it... But what's written (current) bibles, is VERY distorted. Jesus gave good teachings, and once you read a more faithful translation, you can understand how Christianity came to be. But the Christians that came after, well, history repeats.., just a century or two later whey were feuding over their founder coming in the flesh or in the spirit. That pissed the roman emperor, the "trinity" was born and that schism was solved...

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The problem with your kind of thinking about the age of the earth and universe is, there is all kinds of evidence that the universe is much shorter. Some of the evidence points at 10,000 years. Since you can do Internet searches that show this, and since you can get deeper by studying the young-earth evidence with those who explain it, believing in a old-universe view is a choice... not reality of an old-universe.

In other words, whatever looks good, and however you want to apply the evidence, is like making a choice to believe whatever you want.

The only way to know how old the universe is, is to believe the witnesses who were there, and recorded their witnessing.

The first two chapters of the Bible were witness records copied by Moses from text in Egyptian libraries about 3,500 years ago. These texts probably have crumbled away with age long ago. But they might still be hidden in some lost Egytian library somewhere... hidden under the desert sands of Egypt.

You can't apply today's evidence without knowing the past parameters that the evidence needs to be applied by. Maybe they are applying the evidence in a wrong way. We won't know until we have witnesses or a time viewer/machine.

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You have such a machine, its called a telescope. Yes, indeed, whatever you see in the sky is already very. very old, much older than 10 thousand years. And the more you "zoom" in, the farther in the past you pry (not just further away).

Time and Space is relative. You think you could make things simple for you to understand it, but the universe does not care, it simply is.


Time and space are relative. But why does anyone think that the relativeness hasn't necessarily changed over the ages?

For example, you have some cookies. Obviously they were baked. How do you know if they were baked in an electric oven, a gas oven, or in a closed frying pan on on top of the range? You might be able to chemically test some samples. But if they are out of reach, and you test with a spectrometer, how do you know that you aren't missing some variables in the whole test method?

All we are seeing is light through the telescope. We can understand that light from near objects (in out solar system) has been operated upon by the same physics that we use right here on Earth. But what about the light that came over distances that might be millions of light years? How do we know that the physics of the past wasn't different, and only makes the light appear to be millions of light years away.

I'll bet that there are plenty of astrophysysicists who are mathematicians who could calculate a very different distance by calculating a gradual change in math and physics into it. But why do this when it is so much easier to use all kinds of constants that we don't for-a-fact know existed more than a million years ago?

In Big bang theory, we aren't missing variables. BBT says 3 things:
1. Here's the way BB was;
2. We used math, physics, astronomy, etc., to extrapolate backwards to get BB;
3. BB was different than what we have today.

What was different about BB? Well, the stars, the operations of forces, mechanics, math, physics, time. We don't have any frame of reference to tell what the differences were, or when they arose, or if they somehow acted with something like punctuated-equilibrium, or if they entirely smooth changes.

Essentially, BBT has destroyed the BB it created. The best we have is records of the ancient peoples of the world in their pottery, writings, and "sculptures." We don't know how far back (years) beyond these we can go with the same math and physics that we use today. Even now, science is showing with Gobekli Tepe and other places that our calculations of time are way off base.

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Basically, comfort begins with our feelings and thoughts. If you can control it, you will most likely feel comfortable wherever you want to stay. I mean, it doesn't really matter whether there are a lot of residents or even a little as long as you feel comfortable with yourself, it will make you comfortable too with your environment. But if you are a sensitive person, chances are it will be difficult for you to feel comfortable in a lot of places the person. It's better you look for a place that is rather less populous in my opinion
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November 19, 2019, 05:59:27 AM
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I'll bet that there are plenty of astrophysysicists who are mathematicians who could calculate a very different distance by calculating a gradual change in math and physics into it. But why do this when it is so much easier to use all kinds of constants that we don't for-a-fact know existed more than a million years ago?
I'll concede that scientific understanding of the distant past is a projection, and that the universe changes over time. You're not talking differences of degree though, about whether the universe is 10 or 15 billion years old - you're saying (in the religion thread) a few thousand or (here) a million, which is simply not true. That can and has been easily tested right here on Earth. Isotope analysis such as radio-carbon dating has proven far beyond reasonable doubt that the Earth is over 4 billion years old.



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