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March 27, 2018, 02:13:50 PM
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There aren't enough reports there. Here are the top reporters over the last 90 days, unhandled reports only:

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|     9 |   1056600 | baba0000000000 |
|     7 |   1007192 | JeremyB        |
|     7 |   1082600 | kenzawak       |
|     3 |   1456247 | eklA           |
|     2 |    225121 | franckuestein  |
|     2 |   1580039 | asche          |

Hi. Almost one month later, can you give us an update of your query above ?
Thank.

The thread is open again, sorry to ask again, but can you run again your query about unhandled reports ? The results will be more significant now.

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March 28, 2018, 01:30:31 PM
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Yes it would be great to have new figures, because our french moderator doesn't delete any reported post anymore.

In fact we don't know where he is since the 27th january (2018) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85550;sa=showPosts

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March 28, 2018, 03:12:04 PM
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Yes it would be great to have new figures, because our french moderator doesn't delete any reported post anymore.

In fact we don't know where he is since the 27th january (2018) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85550;sa=showPosts

It's not true, he comes a few minutes online every 2 or 3 days and randomly handle the reports.

We are reporting more and more, it must be exhausting for him, he's not used to it.

But the french forums and especially altcoins section are still (and more) a hell of a mess, no moderator at all or the one we have right now end up the same.

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March 28, 2018, 04:03:47 PM
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It's not true, he comes a few minutes online every 2 or 3 days and randomly handle the reports.

We are reporting more and more, it must be exhausting for him, he's not used to it.

But the french forums and especially altcoins section are still (and more) a hell of a mess, no moderator at all or the one we have right now end up the same.


That guy said this only one month ago :

Lol, le modo c'est comme le père Noël, il ne passe qu'une fois par an! Et encore il faut y croire!
Par contre il ne passe jamais dans la section altcoins (on ne mélange pas les torchons et les serpillères)!

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"LOL, the modo is like Santa Claus, he only comes here once a year! Besides, we have to pray for it!
Otherwise he never comes into the Altcoins section (because towels and floor clothes mustn't be mixed together)!"

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March 28, 2018, 05:05:46 PM
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It's not true, he comes a few minutes online every 2 or 3 days and randomly handle the reports.

As you said, he random handle reports. Nice job, all my report have been approved but NONE have been delete.

@Saint-loup it was sarcasm against our moderator.
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March 28, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
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Yes it would be great to have new figures, because our french moderator doesn't delete any reported post anymore.

In fact we don't know where he is since the 27th january (2018) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=85550;sa=showPosts

It's not true, he comes a few minutes online every 2 or 3 days and randomly handle the reports.

We are reporting more and more, it must be exhausting for him, he's not used to it.

But the french forums and especially altcoins section are still (and more) a hell of a mess, no moderator at all or the one we have right now end up the same.

I don't like hypocrites and on the top of that;  You joined not so long ago, the moderator is inactive for over a year maybe. Additionally, we're watching him and we clearly see that NO it doesn't come online every 2-3 days. (cf a post somewhere where I am saying he doesn't come for 1 week) (note: only about 20 posts in near 1 year)

"exhausting" you must be kidding. it takes few minutes daily (2-3 minutes) to click some buttons.

Go out, it's sunny. We are looking for a discussion here between members, not a sandbox review

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March 28, 2018, 05:36:09 PM
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"exhausting" you must be kidding. it takes few minutes daily (2-3 minutes) to click some buttons.

Go out, it's sunny. We are looking for a discussion here between members, not a sandbox review

2-3 minutes x hundreds if not thousands of reports soon adds up. Then add to that the slowness of the forum which makes handling certain reports very tedious and time-consuming. Most local board mods are likely swamped and reports just keep piling up making the situation worse. I've messaged theymos several times that a few of the local boards need additional moderation but that's something only he can initiate.

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March 28, 2018, 06:14:32 PM
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I have no doubt about it, especially for the English forum where it must be exciting daily.

But the French forum is small, if you are regularly checking, you may have 1 report every 1-2 days to deal with. Of course, if you don't do anything for a month it's something else.

But the guy comes but doesn't do anything, I guess it's just his way to say "hello". We were even suspecting him to click the "good report" without doing anything, just to make people thinking he is doing something

Finally, members saying the (English) forum is a mess, they are all welcome to check few local forums, they will see the pain.
The "great project Sir" posts are nothing compared to what you can see.


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March 28, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
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It's not true, he comes a few minutes online every 2 or 3 days and randomly handle the reports.

As you said, he random handle reports. Nice job, all my report have been approved but NONE have been delete.

I see lots of your reports still in the cue. Only one has seemingly been handled recently and the rest haven't so they have yet to be approved.


But the guy comes but doesn't do anything, I guess it's just his way to say "hello". We were even suspecting him to click the "good report" without doing anything, just to make people thinking he is doing something

When you report a post it gets added to your report count but that doesn't mean it has been handled. It's likely that the reports just haven't been handled yet. I can only see two of your French reports have been handled recently but lots of your English ones have so maybe that's where you're getting confused.


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March 28, 2018, 08:33:51 PM
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Hi Hilariousandco. Thanks for your answers, and I'd like to take up some of your time.

A month ago, Theymos asked us to use the report button to see if french local boards need a new or another moderator(s). OK, I started to report because good topics are flooded by spam/scam etc...

Now see my report accuracy :



WOW 100% ! Impressive ! Am I such a good "reporter" ? I don't think so, because there is a big problem : ~60% of my reports are not processed (and I'm not the only one to notice this). I reported only in french local boards.

I copied and pasted (almost) all my reports, you can check them here : http://precu.free.fr/BCT/Report_modo.xlsx
If you want more information about my reports, i will give to you.

For example, OggyBesiktas/Smoke06/HDIMI is a well known multi-account who use the french altcoin section to make his bounty with Google Trad. His sentences use french words but they have no sense.
In one day, Backo makes 40 shitty posts with answering old topics.
Last example, in alt forum, there is ONE topic to list airdrops. And there is one guy who decides to make his own topic (with his referral of course).

We are helpless and our only hope is our moderator, but look at his last posts, he doesn't exists, he's a ghost. Maybe he was a good moderator, when they where only 10 french Bitcoin enthusiasts. But now there are 10, 100 times more people and one moderator is no longer enough.

How long do I have to keep reporting messages to hope things move ?

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March 28, 2018, 08:43:35 PM
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It's not true, he comes a few minutes online every 2 or 3 days and randomly handle the reports.

As you said, he random handle reports. Nice job, all my report have been approved but NONE have been delete.

@Saint-loup it was sarcasm against our moderator.

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I would be curious too to see the number of unhandled reports in the french section.

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March 28, 2018, 10:25:21 PM
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It's not true, he comes a few minutes online every 2 or 3 days and randomly handle the reports.

As you said, he random handle reports. Nice job, all my report have been approved but NONE have been delete.

I see lots of your reports still in the cue. Only one has seemingly been handled recently and the rest haven't so they have yet to be approved.


But the guy comes but doesn't do anything, I guess it's just his way to say "hello". We were even suspecting him to click the "good report" without doing anything, just to make people thinking he is doing something

When you report a post it gets added to your report count but that doesn't mean it has been handled. It's likely that the reports just haven't been handled yet. I can only see two of your French reports have been handled recently but lots of your English ones have so maybe that's where you're getting confused.



It should be interesting to know since when they are in cue. Handling time, delay in cue should be better criterion to evaluate the situation.
Also handling delay for handled reports, and so it goes on...

The thing is, above numbers, percentages, and every raw datas, there is a true and real complaint from a community, and it should had as much importance as datas could.
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March 28, 2018, 10:32:11 PM
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I have no doubt about it, especially for the English forum where it must be exciting daily.

But the French forum is small, if you are regularly checking, you may have 1 report every 1-2 days to deal with. Of course, if you don't do anything for a month it's something else.

But the guy comes but doesn't do anything, I guess it's just his way to say "hello". We were even suspecting him to click the "good report" without doing anything, just to make people thinking he is doing something

Finally, members saying the (English) forum is a mess, they are all welcome to check few local forums, they will see the pain.
The "great project Sir" posts are nothing compared to what you can see.



Why don't you ask for a moderator badge to clean all the shit in the French section, so then you make what you want. the guy s are trash there, it's a shame for La gaule Cry
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Last edit: March 29, 2018, 01:25:17 AM by LeGaulois
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I have no doubt about it, especially for the English forum where it must be exciting daily.

But the French forum is small, if you are regularly checking, you may have 1 report every 1-2 days to deal with. Of course, if you don't do anything for a month it's something else.

But the guy comes but doesn't do anything, I guess it's just his way to say "hello". We were even suspecting him to click the "good report" without doing anything, just to make people thinking he is doing something

Finally, members saying the (English) forum is a mess, they are all welcome to check few local forums, they will see the pain.
The "great project Sir" posts are nothing compared to what you can see.



Why don't you ask for a moderator badge to clean all the shit in the French section, so then you make what you want. the guy s are trash there, it's a shame for La gaule Cry
You're old here and are quite involved in the crypto community IRL, you can send your background

I don't have to/am not looking for/  "to make what I want". I am suggesting/reporting/looking to get/ what the French users would like to have, not me

I , for example, have been asking for some changes in the altcoins section, and it's not because I am interested in, I have never posted into the altcoins french section" but I asked because members are all asking for. So why not to give them what they're looking for if they enjoy the forum

When you're using a forum community, you have to remember it is a community and so you need to consider everyone  (a least if you want to see them come back), and not based your own interest. If you see there is a high demand for something then for the interest of the community you need to consider it, no choice.

The moderator didn't want to create a better alt section because he doesn't like altcoins. It's ok, it's his right to not like, but he isn't alone in the forum and it is a must to consider people's opinion.
Just for the record, it's the members who make your forum, not the moderators (well not really true but you get the idea)


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March 29, 2018, 12:41:20 AM
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Don't forget it's call french because of the language but it's not only france and it include many countries with french language.

We already said that you will be a good moderator for us, also we have no one else to do it before this summer so you are the good one.
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March 29, 2018, 07:18:40 AM
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Hi Hilariousandco. Thanks for your answers, and I'd like to take up some of your time.

A month ago, Theymos asked us to use the report button to see if french local boards need a new or another moderator(s). OK, I started to report because good topics are flooded by spam/scam etc...

Now see my report accuracy :



WOW 100% ! Impressive ! Am I such a good "reporter" ? I don't think so, because there is a big problem : ~60% of my reports are not processed (and I'm not the only one to notice this). I reported only in french local boards.

How long do I have to keep reporting messages to hope things move ?

Your accuracy wont be effected until they're handled / marked as bad. As for how long you should report that is up to you. I've told theymos several times that certain boards need additional moderation and there's nothing else I can do.

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March 30, 2018, 10:42:51 PM
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@hilariousandco

Isn't possible to have a current Mod or a Global Mod to spend just 10-15 minutes of his free time just to try to clean what he can. (Almost all French are ready to help him if there is a need to provide a link to what's needed to be moderated, a translation of post to show it needs to be moved-trashed, etc...)

Right now, as an example, they turned the Bitcoin for beginner's  section into the altcoins section, mixed with how to use telegram discussions, or WTS topic, with a book claiming people will make 2 million $, just for 17$ and so on.

we will soon see a lady asking what's the next date for her Menstruation and in the speculation section we will see her speculating about the volume of discharge of blood she expects

What's sadder is to see when a member is telling them they posted their topic in the wrong section, he gets as a reply:
Yes, I know it's not the right place, then what ?

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Sure, if you can find someone who wants to waste their time with it. I know what a shitshow the entire forum is. I've told theymos numerous times about the various issues the board has and how they're continual exploited and it's the same thing every time: nothing gets done. All you can do is keep bringing it up but there's only so long you can keep banging your head against a brick wall. I also subscribe to Einstein's theory of insanity:


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We have a french solution to resolve this Einstein's theory :
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April 01, 2018, 06:46:46 PM
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Sure, if you can find someone who wants to waste their time with it. I know what a shitshow the entire forum is. I've told theymos numerous times about the various issues the board has and how they're continual exploited and it's the same thing every time: nothing gets done. All you can do is keep bringing it up but there's only so long you can keep banging your head against a brick wall. I also subscribe to Einstein's theory of insanity:

By asking I was just hoping to see if it's possible to get a bit of voluntarism. But I understand your point of view, It's not much fun having to clean up other people's shit. That said, there is one user I reported and some of those comments have been deleted while the ghost moderator hasn't been here for several days. Besides, the last time he was online, he didn't do anything. So there must have been someone who did (thanks to him)

We had Mai 68 and 2005 French riots  in France, we can also make April 2018

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