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February 16, 2018, 11:33:33 PM
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I am tired of looking around PSU with 6x or more gpu connector. There seems to be second PSU can easily be turned on using paperclip method. Is that how most miners do it?
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February 17, 2018, 12:04:42 AM
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The paperclip method will keep the secondary PSU always on. You need to manually flip the switch on the PSU to turn it off. I prefer to use a dual ATX splitter cable. That will keep the primary PSU in sync with the secondary PSU so they turn on/off together and also connects the grounds on both PSU's together.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/24Pin-20-4pin-ATX-Mining-30cm-24-Pin-Dual-PSU-Power-Supply-Extension-Cable-for-Computer/32823752791.html?

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February 17, 2018, 12:18:26 AM
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Yes you can use the paper clip.

Just turn both PSU at the same time and off at the same time.

Attach a small fan or old SATA drive or anything just to provide a small load on the secondary PSU.

Make sure they are grounded together
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February 17, 2018, 12:21:49 AM
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The paperclip method will keep the secondary PSU always on. You need to manually flip the switch on the PSU to turn it off. I prefer to use a dual ATX splitter cable. That will keep the primary PSU in sync with the secondary PSU so they turn on/off together and also connects the grounds on both PSU's together.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/24Pin-20-4pin-ATX-Mining-30cm-24-Pin-Dual-PSU-Power-Supply-Extension-Cable-for-Computer/32823752791.html?



Is there any reason to use an add2psu instead of an atx splitter cable?
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February 17, 2018, 12:30:05 AM
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I have used the original Add2PSU, the copy and the ATX spliiter cable. I like the ATX splitter cables the best. Basically all you are doing is connecting the ground and +12v power on signal of the PSU's so they turn on and off together. The ATX splitter cable does it in the simplest and most direct way. The Add2PSU is just a Reed relay that joins the connections when the relay gets power from the Sata/molex connector. From my experience, the splitter cable is the most reliable method. In some cases the the Add2PSU won't turn the PSU's on/off together.
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February 17, 2018, 01:31:04 AM
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I haven't used the ADD2PSU, but I have used the atx splitter and the paperclip method.  I much prefer the atx splitter.  Simple, easy, cheap, and it works.

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February 17, 2018, 01:58:42 AM
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Same here haha, I've gotten used to it, when I'm in a hurry going back to my hometown and no time to search on a add2psu cable, paper clip saves the day, two of my rigs has been mining for years on this method. Cheesy
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February 17, 2018, 05:02:02 AM
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I am tired of looking around PSU with 6x or more gpu connector. There seems to be second PSU can easily be turned on using paperclip method. Is that how most miners do it?
3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.
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February 17, 2018, 05:12:18 AM
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3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.

some people said to use a paperclip on our PSU, we need to connect green cable and black one. in my case, all of my 24 pins has a black cable, which one I need to connect?
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February 17, 2018, 06:24:50 AM
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3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.

some people said to use a paperclip on our PSU, we need to connect green cable and black one. in my case, all of my 24 pins has a black cable, which one I need to connect?

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February 17, 2018, 06:53:39 AM
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3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.

some people said to use a paperclip on our PSU, we need to connect green cable and black one. in my case, all of my 24 pins has a black cable, which one I need to connect?
the green one is number 16 Pin, you can connect the green one to any ground Pin cable, 3,15,17 etc.for more clearly you can see the picture below:

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February 17, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
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the green one is number 16 Pin, you can connect the green one to any ground Pin cable, 3,15,17 etc.for more clearly you can see the picture below:


it's clear now, so I need to count until the holes number 16 (for 24 pins, it is green).
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February 17, 2018, 07:29:55 AM
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Paperclip is green and any black pin.Someone have one motherboad and i think he use this method.
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February 17, 2018, 08:37:04 AM
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Connect green to green and black to black from one PSU to OTHER and your psu's start and off both

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February 17, 2018, 11:22:55 AM
Last edit: February 17, 2018, 01:28:07 PM by Vann
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I am tired of looking around PSU with 6x or more gpu connector. There seems to be second PSU can easily be turned on using paperclip method. Is that how most miners do it?
3 month I have been doing it using a paperclip, The lack of this way is If our PSUs efficiency not so good the 12 V cable will not produce the right Voltage. So we need to create dummy load for 5V cable to make sure the PSUs produce the right Voltage. will better your using relay tool such as add2Psu.

Except the Add2PSU doesn't place a load on the 5V line of the secondary PSU. It's just a 12V relay that connects the +12V power on cable and ground on the secondary PSU when it senses +12V power on the sata/molex that's connected from the primary PSU connected to the motherboard. You can create your own Add2PSU from an automotive realy.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDArticles&op=Story&ndar_id=27

Dual conversion PSU's are the best because they convert the entire energy into a 12V single rail and then uses VRM to generate 5V and 3.3V. The cheaper PSU type converts using different taps in the transformer for each voltage and use the 5V line to regulate the voltage, instead of the 12V line like the dual conversion models. That causes voltage instability from not loading the 5V line.
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February 17, 2018, 12:01:18 PM
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I using add2psu relay to combine dual PSU
750+750W. Simple and safety than paperclip.
Add2psu is cheap, only $10
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February 17, 2018, 06:05:56 PM
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The paperclip method will keep the secondary PSU always on. You need to manually flip the switch on the PSU to turn it off. I prefer to use a dual ATX splitter cable. That will keep the primary PSU in sync with the secondary PSU so they turn on/off together and also connects the grounds on both PSU's together.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/24Pin-20-4pin-ATX-Mining-30cm-24-Pin-Dual-PSU-Power-Supply-Extension-Cable-for-Computer/32823752791.html?



thanks, that is what i observed.
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February 17, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
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i had 750w PSU which i did it just fine. But i had thermaltake toughpower 1200w and paperclip is not working. Yes i certainly connected #16 green to one of the ground and will not power up. Plus all cables are black so was tricky. I did 5-6 tries on 2 1200w toughpower psu only one time it powered up and then no more. I think I will get small PSU since I dont need huge one.
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February 17, 2018, 06:21:08 PM
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Personally, I have used Add2PSU, EvgaPSUTester and Paper Clip method. All works, but the best for me is Add2PSU. PSU Tester uses Paper clip method as well. So you need to turn on/off manually for those.

Add2PSU also has good customer service. They have sent me wrong item at my first order. After contacting them for partial refund, they have refunded and sent me correct item free of charge.
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February 17, 2018, 06:34:49 PM
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doing paperclip method on several rigs for months now, everything good

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