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July 19, 2011, 12:53:55 AM
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Not that I've read the whole thread, but just want to make sure it's noted that economies based on generosity can certainly work on a small scale (ie, maybe a few hundred individuals) where each member more or less has some level of direct interaction with a non-trivial percentage of the total number of members. Extend beyond that size, and some basics of human nature (self-interest, devaluing the lives and rights of those who aren't close to you versus those who are, family allegiance, etc) take over that make such systems break down.

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July 19, 2011, 10:27:17 AM
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Not that I've read the whole thread, but just want to make sure it's noted that economies based on generosity can certainly work on a small scale (ie, maybe a few hundred individuals) where each member more or less has some level of direct interaction with a non-trivial percentage of the total number of members. Extend beyond that size, and some basics of human nature (self-interest, devaluing the lives and rights of those who aren't close to you versus those who are, family allegiance, etc) take over that make such systems break down.

This makes a lot of sense to me.

It also reinforces that different aspects of humans take precedence in different situations. For example, there are different relationships within a family than there are in a local community and again in a global marketplace.

I guess what interests me, in the context of this thread, is whether we've evolved socially and technologically to scale that generosity aspect to a larger economy. I think Marx talked about a progression of revolutions from primitive communism -> feudalism -> capitalism -> advanced communism. Perhaps he had a similar idea in mind.

(Coincidently, I just came across the following quote: "Self-interest is but the survival of the animal in us. Humanity only begins for man with self-surrender." — Henri-Frédéric Amiel)

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February 24, 2014, 03:25:00 AM
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https://www.google.de/search?q=Charles+Eisenstein+site%3Abitcointalk.org brings up this one thread - so why not reawake it.

This short film (12:08 min) has just been clicked half a million times:

Sacred Economics with Charles Eisenstein - A Short Film

Sacred Economics traces the history of money from ancient gift economies to modern capitalism, revealing how the money system has contributed to alienation, competition, and scarcity, destroyed community, and necessitated endless growth.

Today, these trends have reached their extreme - but in the wake of their collapse, we may find great opportunity to transition to a more connected, ecological, and sustainable way of being.

Published 01.03.2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEZkQv25uEs

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