Token sale conditions, what to choose??

[Kramblerty]

Kindly help  

Emagine that you (investor) and had already analyzed all project conditions (idea, product, team, etc.) and they satisfied you.
The project is a unique p2p cryptocurrency-fiat and swap exchange with MPV being published before ICO.

Then you face project's Token sale conditions ....... and ....my question what token allocation scheme you would like most (a), (b) or (c)?

IMPORTANT: kindly keep in mind that the options (b) and (c) will allow the project to be on 60% more successful after launch.

(a)
10 000 000 total amount, where:
- 1 000 000 pre-ICO (price USD 0,25)
- 6 000 000 ICO (price USD 0,5)
- 210 000 Contributor Referral Bonus (1,5%+1,5% win-win)
- 120 000 Bounty campaign
- 900 000 Angel investors
- 1 770 000 Team (2 years hold with 6-month cliffs)



or


(b)
10 000 000 total amount, where:
- 5 100 000 ICO, where
Each token will be priced at USD 0.70 , with bonuses (tokens) on a sliding scale depending on the period of purchase.
   20% bonus for first 24hours
   15% bonus 1st week
   10% bonus 2nd week
   5% bonus 3rd week
   0% bonus for week 4-5
- 150 000 Contributor Referral Bonus (1,5%+1,5% win-win)
- 150 000 Bounty campaign
- 900 000 Angel investors
- 1 500 000 Team (2 years hold with 6-month cliffs)
- 2 200 000 Reserve for product growth, (3 years hold with 6 month cliffs)



For simplicity, soft/hard caps are the same, and any unsold tokens will be put to augment product growth.


(c)

Reserve: 5 years hold with 6 month 10% cliffs. It will be applied to inspire confidence to the contributors and facilitate the future platform growth.
Prices: not too high price discounts from 5 to 20% and limitations for pre-sale amounts (max $ 5k).
Team: jsut 10% to the team with 2 years hold _ 6-month 25% cliffs

Amount of Tokens = 20 000 000
Offered to public = 14 000 000
All unsold tokens will be burned.

pre-ICO price
- $0.40 (20% discount) duration is 2 weeks
Max. contribution amount from one account = $5 000 equvalent

ICO price  
- $0.425 (15% discount) 1 week
- $.045   (10% discount) 2 week    
- $.0475 (5% discount)   3 week
- $.050   (0% discount)   4 week  

- 70% Public
- 16,7% Growth Reserve (5 years hold with 6-month 10% cliffs )
- 10% team (2 years hold with 6-month 25% cliffs)
- 3,3% bounties




We are preparing to ICO and don't know what allocation to choose due to the current crypto-market not-good condition.

Any your ideas/suggestions would be highly appreciated and welcomed-)

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[Jekbolt]

May be you should apply b but with price 0.02 (or 0.03) and instead of 10ml issue 100ml or 1000ml.

[cryptocue]

It doesnt matter how the tokens are sold,the most important thing to have is the support from the community even if the project has good token allocation it doesnt mean it will achieve success,not without the community's help so you need to have a good advertising team so it will have some exposure in the community.

but for me a is better than b.

[Kramblerty]

It doesnt matter how the tokens are sold,the most important thing to have is the support from the community even if the project has good token allocation it doesnt mean it will achieve success,not without the community's help so you need to have a good advertising team so it will have some exposure in the community.

but for me a is better than b.

Thanks a lot for your feedback!

[Kramblerty]

It doesnt matter how the tokens are sold,the most important thing to have is the support from the community even if the project has good token allocation it doesnt mean it will achieve success,not without the community's help so you need to have a good advertising team so it will have some exposure in the community.

but for me a is better than b.

Could you please specifa why (a) is better for you than (b)?

[BUSTEDCLUB]

I dont like ICOs that give big bonuses, thats like they just try to atract you to buy more of they token or just kinda giving away it. And how the token sale not really important, the main problem is how their token gona survive when get inside the market and on what purpose that token created.

[londoireng]

Prefer with option A but with more separate price increase from 0.1 0.2 0.4 0.8 or something. And can we remove the refferal bonus ? Its somehow representative that coin not that good until he need do some bonus to make more people invest

[Kramblerty]

Prefer with option A but with more separate price increase from 0.1 0.2 0.4 0.8 or something. And can we remove the refferal bonus ? Its somehow representative that coin not that good until he need do some bonus to make more people invest

Thanks for the point about referral bonus!!...you are right, but let me explain what is the project (this is my mistake i should write it in the beginning - already fixed). The project is a unique p2p cryptocurrency-fiat and swap exchange platform with MPV being published before ICO. So, by implementing referral mechanics, we wish to reach both goals:
1) increase awareness about the platform that is crucial for it the success
2) attract as more small investors as possible because it helps to avoid future pump and dump.

And the last...referral bonuses are very small just 3% of 7mln (option A).


This is perfect suggestions "0.1 0.2 0.4 0.8 or something" we will do in that way..thanks!

[Kramblerty]

the main problem is how their token gona survive when get inside the market and on what purpose that token created.

If you mean the overall tokenomics of the project then this is good you would like it...there will be good stimulus to keep coins.

[Vazil]

i think people don't like that tokens which they buy today will be inflated later by a "reserve" (option b)...even if that reserve will be spread over 3 years

[Kramblerty]

yes,,,this why option (a) have no any reserves

[Kramblerty]

May be you should apply b but with price 0.02 (or 0.03) and instead of 10ml issue 100ml or 1000ml.

kindly inform why you advise (b)? you dont mind to have inflation (reserve)?

[Jekbolt]

May be you should apply b but with price 0.02 (or 0.03) and instead of 10ml issue 100ml or 1000ml.

kindly inform why you advise (b)? you dont mind to have inflation (reserve)?

hm...you should decide how to invest future growth if not using reserve

[Kramblerty]

May be you should apply b but with price 0.02 (or 0.03) and instead of 10ml issue 100ml or 1000ml.

kindly inform why you advise (b)? you dont mind to have inflation (reserve)?

hm...you should decide how to invest future growth if not using reserve

what if all unsold (during ICO) tokens will be offered on the exchnages to the public for the price 3x higher than on ICO?

[slaman29]

Prefer with option A but with more separate price increase from 0.1 0.2 0.4 0.8 or something. And can we remove the refferal bonus ? Its somehow representative that coin not that good until he need do some bonus to make more people invest

Thanks for the point about referral bonus!!...you are right, but let me explain what is the project (this is my mistake i should write it in the beginning - already fixed). The project is a unique p2p cryptocurrency-fiat and swap exchange platform with MPV being published before ICO. So, by implementing referral mechanics, we wish to reach both goals:
1) increase awareness about the platform that is crucial for it the success
2) attract as more small investors as possible because it helps to avoid future pump and dump.

And the last...referral bonuses are very small just 3% of 7mln (option A).


This is perfect suggestions "0.1 0.2 0.4 0.8 or something" we will do in that way..thanks!

Don't make this mistake of thinking referral bonus will help you making it even better spread and reach wide distributions. In fact, I would say any form of inflated rewards (especially referrals) will get you the numbers or quantity, but nothing about quality. Just look at the alt sections for examples. Referrals are just prone to abuse, and even if they are real in the end, you realise these are just people looking for a quick buck, going to offload as soon as they can. Check out the transactions of airdrops and referrals. They will all end up in the same address.

3% is not small at all.

[Kramblerty]

Prefer with option A but with more separate price increase from 0.1 0.2 0.4 0.8 or something. And can we remove the refferal bonus ? Its somehow representative that coin not that good until he need do some bonus to make more people invest

Thanks for the point about referral bonus!!...you are right, but let me explain what is the project (this is my mistake i should write it in the beginning - already fixed). The project is a unique p2p cryptocurrency-fiat and swap exchange platform with MPV being published before ICO. So, by implementing referral mechanics, we wish to reach both goals:
1) increase awareness about the platform that is crucial for it the success
2) attract as more small investors as possible because it helps to avoid future pump and dump.

And the last...referral bonuses are very small just 3% of 7mln (option A).


This is perfect suggestions "0.1 0.2 0.4 0.8 or something" we will do in that way..thanks!

Don't make this mistake of thinking referral bonus will help you making it even better spread and reach wide distributions. In fact, I would say any form of inflated rewards (especially referrals) will get you the numbers or quantity, but nothing about quality. Just look at the alt sections for examples. Referrals are just prone to abuse, and even if they are real in the end, you realise these are just people looking for a quick buck, going to offload as soon as they can. Check out the transactions of airdrops and referrals. They will all end up in the same address.

3% is not small at all.

but the referral contributor bonus that we are going to offer + 1,5% (invitor) +1,5% (invitee) activates only if each of them invest min 0,1 ETH. This is not just free tokens which they want to sell out immidiately. 

Is it make sence ? or anyway any reff is so bad promo?

[Jekbolt]

Referrals are good if the percent of tokens given away is low

[silent17]

As long as many people or investor believe in the project, it really doesn't matter the token allocation.
The support of the community is still the one who contributes to the price and the success of the project.

[kinki32]

Kindly help  

Emagine that you (investor) and had already analyzed all project conditions (idea, product, team, etc.) and they satisfied you.
The project is a unique p2p cryptocurrency-fiat and swap exchange with MPV being published before ICO.

Then you face project's Token sale conditions ....... and ....my question what token allocation scheme you would like most (a) or (b)?

IMPORTANT: kindly keep in mind that the option (b) will allow the project to be on 60% more successful after launch.

(a)
10 000 000 total amount, where:
- 1 000 000 pre-ICO (price USD 0,25)
- 6 000 000 ICO (price USD 0,5)
- 210 000 Contributor Referral Bonus (1,5%+1,5% win-win)
- 120 000 Bounty campaign
- 900 000 Angel investors
- 1 770 000 Team (2 years hold with 6-month cliffs)



or


(b)
10 000 000 total amount, where:
- 5 100 000 ICO, where
Each token will be priced at USD 0.70 , with bonuses (tokens) on a sliding scale depending on the period of purchase.
   20% bonus for first 24hours
   15% bonus 1st week
   10% bonus 2nd week
   5% bonus 3rd week
   0% bonus for week 4-5
- 150 000 Contributor Referral Bonus (1,5%+1,5% win-win)
- 150 000 Bounty campaign
- 900 000 Angel investors
- 1 500 000 Team (2 years hold with 6-month cliffs)
- 2 200 000 Reserve for product growth, (3 years hold with 6 month cliffs)



For simplicity, soft/hard caps are the same, and any unsold tokens will be put to augment product growth.


We are preparing to ICO and don't know what allocation to choose due to the current crypto-market not-good condition.

Any your ideas/suggestions would be highly appreciated and welcomed-)

I think first variant, because the more tokens in people it's better, than the owner of the big piece tokens it's one persone.

[auliahr]

I prefer option a, but I do not like allocations for refferal bonuses and all unsold tokens must be burned.

[haidangtp]

It doesnt matter how the tokens are sold,the most important thing to have is the support from the community even if the project has good token allocation it doesnt mean it will achieve success,not without the community's help so you need to have a good advertising team so it will have some exposure in the community.

but for me a is better than b.

I agree with you. A successful project is based on the support of investors. In order to do this, it is necessary to communicate information and advertise effectively.

[kryptqnick]

Kindly help  

Emagine that you (investor) and had already analyzed all project conditions (idea, product, team, etc.) and they satisfied you.
The project is a unique p2p cryptocurrency-fiat and swap exchange with MPV being published before ICO.

Then you face project's Token sale conditions ....... and ....my question what token allocation scheme you would like most (a) or (b)?

I think option 'b' is a lot better, since it saves some money as a reserve for product's growth in the future. Plus, the team gets less of the money officially. Perhaps I would reduce their share even more, for it is still rather big. Yet what is bad about the scheme is that only half is sold on public sale, whereas the majority of another half is in the hands of developers or their partners. This creates a situation where it would be too easy to manipulate the price and the coin will hardly be decentralized. You should take it into consideration and maybe just lower down the reserve and add some more to public sale.

[Kramblerty]

Kindly help  

Emagine that you (investor) and had already analyzed all project conditions (idea, product, team, etc.) and they satisfied you.
The project is a unique p2p cryptocurrency-fiat and swap exchange with MPV being published before ICO.

Then you face project's Token sale conditions ....... and ....my question what token allocation scheme you would like most (a) or (b)?

I think option 'b' is a lot better, since it saves some money as a reserve for product's growth in the future. Plus, the team gets less of the money officially. Perhaps I would reduce their share even more, for it is still rather big. Yet what is bad about the scheme is that only half is sold on public sale, whereas the majority of another half is in the hands of developers or their partners. This creates a situation where it would be too easy to manipulate the price and the coin will hardly be decentralized. You should take it into consideration and maybe just lower down the reserve and add some more to public sale.

You are right! here (below) the reconsidered token sale conditions:

[Kramblerty]

Reconsidering all your comments, we now think about such allocation scheme:

Reserve: 5 years hold with 6 month 10% cliffs. It will be applied to inspire confidence to the contributors and facilitate the future platform growth.
Prices: not too high price discounts from 5 to 20% and limitations for pre-sale amounts (max $ 5k).
Team: jsut 10% to the team with 2 years hold _ 6-month 25% cliffs

Kindly comment this new allocation.


Amount of Tokens = 20 000 000
Offered to public = 14 000 000
All unsold tokens will be burned.

pre-ICO price
- $0.40 (20% discount) duration is 2 weeks
Max. contribution amount from one account = $5 000 equvalent

ICO price  
- $0.425 (15% discount) 1 week
- $.045   (10% discount) 2 week    
- $.0475 (5% discount)   3 week  
- $.050   (0% discount)   4 week  
    


- 70% Public
- 16,7% Growth Reserve (5 years hold with 6-month 10% cliffs )
- 10% team (2 years hold with 6-month 25% cliffs)
- 3,3% bounties

[Vazil]

Reconsidering all your comments, we now think about such allocation scheme:

Reserve: 5 years hold with 6 month 10% cliffs. It will be applied to inspire confidence to the contributors and facilitate the future platform growth.
Prices: not too high price discounts from 5 to 20% and limitations for pre-sale amounts (max $ 5k).
Team: jsut 10% to the team with 2 years hold _ 6-month 25% cliffs

Kindly comment this new allocation.


Amount of Tokens = 20 000 000
Offered to public = 14 000 000
All unsold tokens will be burned.

pre-ICO price
- $0.40 (20% discount) duration is 2 weeks
Max. contribution amount to one account = $5 000 equvalent

ICO price   
- $0.425 (15% discount) 1 week
- $.045   (10% discount) 2 week     
- $.0475 (5% discount)   3 week 
- $.050   (0% discount)   4 week 
     


- 70% Public
- 16,7% Growth Reserve (5 years hold with 6-month 10% cliffs )
- 10% team (2 years hold with 6-month 25% cliffs)
- 3,3% bounties

now, this allocation looks better  than (a) and (b)

[Kramblerty]

We also feel that this last scheme is better; but want to hear more feedbacks prior to apply it 

[Jekbolt]

if you are planning to use some special service providers and pay them with your tokens immediately after ICO then you should add a small "angel" investor share..

[Kramblerty]

if you are planning to use some special service providers and pay them with your tokens immediately after ICO then you should add a small "angel" investor share..

Indeed, we do need to keep a very small share for that purposes. Thanks for pointing it out!

[Kramblerty]

if you are planning to use some special service providers and pay them with your tokens immediately after ICO then you should add a small "angel" investor share..

Is 2% for "angel" investors are normal (in current market conditions)? How do you think?

[Cryptohad]

I prefer choosing (a) and (b). and option (c) more will allow unsold tokens.

I prefer a crowdsale sale that has a way of more and more quickly attract investors!

[Kramblerty]

I prefer choosing (a) and (b). and option (c) more will allow unsold tokens.

I prefer a crowdsale sale that has a way of more and more quickly attract investors!

So (c) offers a good stake to public (70%) and still have some reserve for future growth. win-win -)

[Vazil]

I prefer choosing (a) and (b). and option (c) more will allow unsold tokens.

I prefer a crowdsale sale that has a way of more and more quickly attract investors!

So (c) offers a good stake to public (70%) and still have some reserve for future growth. win-win -)

70% offered to the public is a normal rate! no one will tell that this is too low level.

[Kramblerty]

70% is more than average share... among those projects, which decided to keep some part as a growth reserve

[Kramblerty]

70% is more than average share... among those projects, which decided to keep some part as a growth reserve

Maybe we will decrease it from 70% to 65% and increase reserve +5%..still thinking