Asic Arms Race 28mn chips

[WikileaksDude]

Link to the official pricing and shipping times:
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http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/
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(at the bottom)
** Notice the Virtual Mining/VMC , having the best prices per hash, and them being 28nm chips.



So it seems that we have a race here,

and the racers are: ActiveMining(VMC), CoinCraft, KnCMiner, CoinTerra

Most are shipping their chips, during november, ActiveMining promissed, to ship, by the end of october..

Coincraft - by december

KnCminer - by the end of november

and CoinTerra saying during January's batch...

Hashfast -  shipping in mid to late november

BFL - November/December (initial shipping), and January/February (bulk shipping)

So lets see who's gonna win this race, starting october to december will be indeed an interesting times for bitcoin.

[chip_painter]

also BFL and hashfast...

[WikileaksDude]

also BFL and hashfast...

BFL will _definitely_ not win the race, with their "shipping in 2 weeks" trade mark.

and yea forgot hashfast - shipping in mid to late november

[GenTarkin]

now, dont get me wrong I hate BFL w/ every fiber in my body but... at least theyve shipped something. All the companies are vaporware at this point afaik.

[WikileaksDude]

now, dont get me wrong I hate BFL w/ every fiber in my body but... at least theyve shipped something. All the companies are vaporware at this point afaik.

So your bets are on BFL to win the race... Ok.

[Paladin69]

now, dont get me wrong I hate BFL w/ every fiber in my body but... at least theyve shipped something. All the companies are vaporware at this point afaik.

BFL can produce a product, but their time to market is atrocious.  And their estimations have always been terrible.  If you aren't 1st in line with them, don't bother.

[balanghai]

It now depends who has the deepest pocket. 

[Paladin69]

It now depends who has the deepest pocket.  

ASIC has basically transformed the industry into this, yes.  Unless you have product in your hands right now, the benefit is back in the hands of old money again.  What else is new...

[arlekyn13]

So it seems that we have a race here,

and the racers are: ActiveMining(VMC), CoinCraft, KnCMiner, CoinTerra

Most are shipping their chips, during november, ActiveMining promissed, to ship, by the end of october..

Coincraft - by the end of november

KnCminer - by the end of november

and CoinTerra saying during January's batch...

Hashfast -  shipping in mid to late november

BFL - November/December (initial shipping), and January/February (bulk shipping)

So lets see who's gonna win this race, starting october to december will be indeed an interesting times for bitcoin.

Pretty sure KNC is supposed to ship by the end of September

[creativex]

I see this race as largely irrelevant, but unless knc stumbles at the finish line(or bfl's everyone) the 28nm trophy is theirs to win.

Process node is only one factor in determining efficiency however. Bitfury beat them all to market with a 55nm chip that's significantly more efficient than the likely front running 28nm chip. Going forward bitfury's 55nm chip looks like it will remain competitive, from an efficiency standpoint, with all of the announced 28nm vaporware and woe to the competition if bitfury shrinks that chip with good results.

[WikileaksDude]

So it seems that we have a race here,

and the racers are: ActiveMining(VMC), CoinCraft, KnCMiner, CoinTerra

Most are shipping their chips, during november, ActiveMining promissed, to ship, by the end of october..

Coincraft - by the end of november

KnCminer - by the end of november

and CoinTerra saying during January's batch...

Hashfast -  shipping in mid to late november

BFL - November/December (initial shipping), and January/February (bulk shipping)

So lets see who's gonna win this race, starting october to december will be indeed an interesting times for bitcoin.

Pretty sure KNC is supposed to ship by the end of September

here: https://i.imgur.com/ViHHvcX.png

[TheSwede75]

now, dont get me wrong I hate BFL w/ every fiber in my body but... at least theyve shipped something. All the companies are vaporware at this point afaik.

So your bets are on BFL to win the race... Ok.

Chance that BFL will actually be around long enough to ship chips? >50%

[TheSwede75]

So it seems that we have a race here,

and the racers are: ActiveMining(VMC), CoinCraft, KnCMiner, CoinTerra

Most are shipping their chips, during november, ActiveMining promissed, to ship, by the end of october..

Coincraft - by the end of november

KnCminer - by the end of november

and CoinTerra saying during January's batch...

Hashfast -  shipping in mid to late november

BFL - November/December (initial shipping), and January/February (bulk shipping)

So lets see who's gonna win this race, starting october to december will be indeed an interesting times for bitcoin.

Pretty sure KNC is supposed to ship by the end of September

here: https://i.imgur.com/ViHHvcX.png

Obviously you haven't been paying attention. Their first batch is due for sept shipping, they are now on third batch orders for Nov shipping.

[crumbs]

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Pretty sure KNC is supposed to ship by the end of September

here: https://i.imgur.com/ViHHvcX.png

No, that's a later order -- the first batch is being shipped by the end of September.  Research your topic, pl0x.

[creativex]

here: https://i.imgur.com/ViHHvcX.png

That only applies to orders placed now, there was a price cut on knc products. I think it unlikely knc will ship in quantity this month, but they appear likely to ship in bulk in October.

Edit: uh yeah...I'm slow.

[Carlton Banks]

I'm pleased we're finally getting close to the finishline, at least. With any luck, the market may hit a bit of maturity, and the hashrate will be, well, predictable if not stable.

[Paladin69]

Isn't Avalon working on 2nd gen chips?

[greaterninja]

Isn't Avalon working on 2nd gen chips?

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Avalon is already working on 3rd gen 28nm chips for their server farms.

[arlekyn13]

If KNC actually delivers around 2PH by 15th of Oct, will the other companies face a wave of cancelled orders? Or KNC itself for the Nov shipping orders?

[creativex]

Many of the pre-order vendors will not face a wave of cancellations as they don't allow refunds. The fact that this policy is illegal for American based companies doesn't seem to be much of an obstacle. Bfl really set the bar here.