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July 23, 2011, 04:04:46 PM
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To be honest i sended 5 btc to this guy, and today i got an answer.

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July 23, 2011, 04:13:11 PM
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Funny,

This guy doesn't sound chinese at all, the site is hosted from the uk and yet the website is talking about "here in Shenzhen".
I don't trust it .. at all.
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July 23, 2011, 04:51:10 PM
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To be honest i sended 5 btc to this guy, but i never got any answer!!!

I waited now 3 days no replay


AWARE THIS IS A FRAUD !!!


Man, sorry to hear that. Is it about time to blacklist asicminer and contact BBB?
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July 23, 2011, 04:55:05 PM
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To be honest i sended 5 btc to this guy, but i never got any answer!!!

I waited now 3 days no replay


AWARE THIS IS A FRAUD !!!

We are trying since the very moment we noticed your transfer to email you. This is what we're getting back :

This is the mail system at host pop-pri-02.datacomm.ch.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

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Sorry everybody for not having replied before.Blog updated at http://asicminer.net/?p=78 with some details and a picture. We will be back in a few hours for extended discussion.
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July 23, 2011, 05:03:42 PM
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At least more information is released but still not enough to justify the risk. Wish u posted a video or some more evidence which proves that you actually have a working prototype to the community.
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July 23, 2011, 06:01:05 PM
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At least more information is released but still not enough to justify the risk. Wish u posted a video or some more evidence which proves that you actually have a working prototype to the community.

Yes, and I wish that instead of interpreting the reaction of this board as "harsh" (as you state on your web site), you would realize that we are requesting more information so that we can do business with you based on something other than blind trust. Given your insistence on near absolute secrecy so far, you are essentially placing almost no trust in us, yet expecting blind trust in return. I don't see how this venture of yours is going to get off the ground without at least meeting your potential customers half-way on the trust issue.

Also, while your were busy, a serious question was raised in this thread about how you can possibly do what you claim with only 45k gates, and this will need to be addressed in some fashion.
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July 23, 2011, 06:31:06 PM
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Since this is being made in China, I'll wait for the manufacturer to release their own pirated versions which cost 10x less.  The first wave of buyers take on the scam risk, as well as pay an early adopter tax. 
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July 23, 2011, 06:57:03 PM
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Since this is being made in China, I'll wait for the manufacturer to release their own pirated versions which cost 10x less.  The first wave of buyers take on the scam risk, as well as pay an early adopter tax. 

You can't pirate hardware, noob.

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July 23, 2011, 08:16:19 PM
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To be honest i sended 5 btc to this guy, but i never got any answer!!!

I waited now 3 days no replay


AWARE THIS IS A FRAUD !!!

We are trying since the very moment we noticed your transfer to email you. This is what we're getting back :

This is the mail system at host pop-pri-02.datacomm.ch.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
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For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

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Sorry everybody for not having replied before.Blog updated at http://asicminer.net/?p=78 with some details and a picture. We will be back in a few hours for extended discussion.

Again, it's pretty simple. Prove to a respected member of the community that you have something, then you will sell as many as you make in hours. Don't and you won't sell anything.
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July 23, 2011, 08:34:09 PM
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You can't pirate hardware, noob.

You'd be surprised at just how well the Chinese can pirate (read: clone) hardware:
http://www.popsci.com/iclone

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July 23, 2011, 08:55:54 PM
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The blog post in question: http://asicminer.net/?p=78  (screenshot in case of later tampering: http://i.imgur.com/mv5fU.png )

Here is a full-scale version of the claimed "prototype ASIC board":
http://i.imgur.com/ViX4b.jpg

From asicminers comment section I find this comment (screenshot in case the comment will be deleted):
http://i.imgur.com/0SWWG.png

According to that comment the following linked image shows the insides of a generic mass-produced tablet, with its SODIMM CPU module visible in the middle:
http://i.imgur.com/zYnue.jpg

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So the "prototype ASIC board" asicminer tries to show off, is in every non-obscured area identical to a common CPU module.

IMO, scam.
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July 23, 2011, 09:06:45 PM
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ROFL good luck to all those that pre-order. Very little information and a crappy picture that claims to be the asic board and now someone else proves that picture to be a component from a tablet.
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July 23, 2011, 09:15:11 PM
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i would agree with comment from http://asicminer.net/?p=78
"Good call Yotta, in conjunction with this, the fact that prototypes don’t use surface mount ICs is a dead giveaway"

anybody else having worked with pcb design give this a mention and save people some disappointment  Angry

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July 23, 2011, 09:31:26 PM
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Just some generic card
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July 23, 2011, 10:30:06 PM
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See here http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ixqrw/asic_miner_a_dedicated_bitcoin_mining_device/

We're online now. This tablet is assembled here in shenzhen, the cpu you are looking at is the VIA8505 and we used a similar raw pcb platform available cheaply here.
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July 23, 2011, 10:41:27 PM
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I'll buy one if you reply to fpgaminer's post.
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July 23, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
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Again, it's pretty simple. Prove to a respected member of the community that you have something, then you will sell as many as you make in hours. Don't and you won't sell anything.

^^this.

as attracted as we all are to what will happen with ASICs, asicminer, you are walking and quacking like a duck...
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July 23, 2011, 11:02:30 PM
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You should go full disclosure on us right now. Let people copy this, big deal. I would rather pay $2700 right now versus paying $1400 for some clone a month from now.
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July 23, 2011, 11:07:17 PM
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You should go full disclosure on us right now. Let people copy this, big deal. I would rather pay $2700 right now versus paying $1400 for some clone a month from now.

yes.
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July 23, 2011, 11:48:48 PM
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