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July 23, 2011, 11:57:57 PM
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Since this is being made in China, I'll wait for the manufacturer to release their own pirated versions which cost 10x less.  The first wave of buyers take on the scam risk, as well as pay an early adopter tax. 

You can't pirate hardware, noob.

In China they even do this. Must see with your eyes.
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July 23, 2011, 11:59:01 PM
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well you can contact me here in the forum aswell. I wrote you here twice no answer. But to make it more easy, write me on coinmaster ad tenobis.com


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Hi, thanks for your patience, we have just sent the original email.
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July 24, 2011, 12:08:14 AM
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I'm not kidding man. There's a lot of money sitting here right now. I don't think you appreciate how liquid your device really is.
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July 24, 2011, 02:20:36 AM
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Ill just leave this here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ixqrw/asic_miner_a_dedicated_bitcoin_mining_device/c27ib22
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ixqrw/asic_miner_a_dedicated_bitcoin_mining_device/c27ifpv

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July 24, 2011, 02:31:58 AM
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There are already SHA-256 cores for sale.
http://www.cast-inc.com/ip-cores/encryption/sha-256/
http://www.heliontech.com/downloads/fast_hash_asic_datasheet.pdf
This guys is acting like there is some huge secret to keep. Give me a break. I'm calling bullshit.
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July 24, 2011, 02:48:09 AM
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Read the discussion. There are many points you are not getting.
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July 24, 2011, 02:49:10 AM
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There are already SHA-256 cores for sale.
http://www.cast-inc.com/ip-cores/encryption/sha-256/
http://www.heliontech.com/downloads/fast_hash_asic_datasheet.pdf
This guys is acting like there is some huge secret to keep. Give me a break. I'm calling bullshit.

Those are totally different stuffs. 
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July 24, 2011, 03:04:25 AM
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I've read the discussion, you & your 'product' got eaten alive.

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July 24, 2011, 03:16:19 AM
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Just because our product shares a pcb platform that is more than common in the tablet manufacturing scene it does not mean it is a scam. Our secretive acting is dictated by the fact that it is more than simple to assemble a device like this given the right connections.
Probably in the next few days somebody will setup a subreddit dedicated to asking general questions about our device. We will try to fix things then.
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July 24, 2011, 03:16:59 AM
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Read the discussion. There are many points you are not getting.

Read the discussion. There is only one key point and you're the only one not getting it. Wink


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July 24, 2011, 03:18:52 AM
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Just because our product shares a pcb platform that is more than common in the tablet manufacturing scene it does not mean it is a scam.

It does smell like a scam if the supposed company with the technical expertise to build such a PCB can tell people they are using the same Flash chip as another device... then somebody points out the part number on the "Flash" chip indicates that it's something else actually Wink

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July 24, 2011, 03:43:30 AM
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Just because our product shares a pcb platform that is more than common in the tablet manufacturing scene it does not mean it is a scam.

It does smell like a scam if the supposed company with the technical expertise to build such a PCB can tell people they are using the same Flash chip as another device... then somebody points out the part number on the "Flash" chip indicates that it's something else actually Wink


a flash chip or a sdram in this specific case would have the same purpose.
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July 24, 2011, 03:56:54 AM
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a flash chip or a sdram in this specific case would have the same purpose.

Really? What's the purpose of the flash chip / sdram in this specific case then?

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July 24, 2011, 04:09:20 AM
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...our product shares a pcb platform that is more than common in the tablet manufacturing scene...

Yet it was like pulling chicken's teeth to get them to post a blurred picture indicating nothing more than this common format.
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July 24, 2011, 04:11:28 AM
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a flash chip or a sdram in this specific case would have the same purpose.

Really? What's the purpose of the flash chip / sdram in this specific case then?


The purpose is storing constants used in the computational tasks and save logic space for other uses.
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July 24, 2011, 04:26:01 AM
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a flash chip or a sdram in this specific case would have the same purpose.

Really? What's the purpose of the flash chip / sdram in this specific case then?


The purpose is storing constants used in the computational tasks and save logic space for other uses.


                                                         
Use of Block RAM (BRAM) for storage of constants [8]. Reconfigurable hardware devices
such as FPGAs often have on-board memories which can be pre-loaded.
Storing the Kt constants in these memories frees up space in the device
which can then be used to implement extra logic. The free space also leads to
improved routing and, thus, a general speed-up in circuit operation.
                                                         
From "Optimisation of the SHA-2 Family of Hash Functions on FPGAs"
Robert P. McEvoy, Francis M. Crowe, Colin C. Murphy and William P. Marnane
             Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering,
                      University College Cork, Ireland
             {robertmce, francisc, cmurphy, liam}@rennes.ucc.ie

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July 24, 2011, 05:22:04 AM
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Some one posted the below GIF image in this post.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ixqrw/asic_miner_a_dedicated_bitcoin_mining_device/c27ifpv

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July 24, 2011, 05:49:05 AM
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Use of Block RAM (BRAM) for storage of constants [8]. Reconfigurable hardware devices
such as FPGAs often have on-board memories which can be pre-loaded.
Storing the Kt constants in these memories frees up space in the device
which can then be used to implement extra logic. The free space also leads to
improved routing and, thus, a general speed-up in circuit operation.
                                                         
From "Optimisation of the SHA-2 Family of Hash Functions on FPGAs"
Robert P. McEvoy, Francis M. Crowe, Colin C. Murphy and William P. Marnane
             Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering,
                      University College Cork, Ireland
             {robertmce, francisc, cmurphy, liam}@rennes.ucc.ie



oic, since it's only for storage purposes, it isn't really a critical part. So which Flash chip are you using?

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July 24, 2011, 06:13:10 AM
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This asicminer charade makes for some damn entertaining drama!  Cool


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July 24, 2011, 06:50:07 AM
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Haha, he has not really answered some of my questions on reddit. This is too funny. He wont even provide evidence his "company" exists. in another reddit post he says

"I will tell you something of value:
It's undoubtful that some people nailed some important points, but the community did not call this unanimously a scam, before your crazy intervention we were trying to setup a separate discussion for some question asking. Now i understand you think i am a scammer but I either don't know who are you and who entitled you to speak for the community, and from what i see, you are not the kind of person that surely should take the lead in this kind of situations. Put away your ego, go to bed and sleep on this.Try not to be rude when answering to this msg. Going away now.back in some hours."

he goes on to say "If the community wants us to just change direction and completely stop providing updates just let us know. We will be back later this evening ( in China ) and checkout new comments."

Half the time he cant even make up his mind if its ASIC or fpga. Won't provide the sha core datasheet, claims the ram, sha core, and fpga (or asic) are on a single sdram board that connects to a master board. Anyone notice that as soon as he gets put into a corner he uses the "going away, brb later" line? i saw him do it a mere 5 minutes of answering a guys question on reddit, when he had already been away for 5 hours.

This guy, without a doubt, is a scam, and appearently isn't aware that people from bitcoin forums and reddit tend to surf both forums.

If your gonna scam, know who your target audience is.

edit: he also has bots or is using dummy accounts to get his -24 comment karma out of the hole. its up to -16 now but no one has posted anything new in either of his threads, neither has he replied to anything

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