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February 18, 2018, 04:08:54 AM
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Seeing how to get ranked up in bitcointalk a little weird.
you can Earn merit by posting good quality post. but the fact no one cares with your good quality post .

Lets say you Create 1 thread . with really good quality and very informative
and if someone give you his sendable merit he will lose his Sendable merit.
and to gain that thing he should gain 2 merit again to get 1 sendable merit . LOL

Why he should give 1 sendable merit for stranger but to get 2 merit its really HARD .
and also sendable merit its not available daily , weekly or month its only gain after you receiving 2 merit for 1 Sendable meit LOL

"maybe you said. no it's not hard as you think"
Maybe because you have become a hero member / Legendary. so you have your own team to exchange merit.
or someone spammers who already have a a lot account with rank Full Member ++
Old member and old spammer more grow with his abuse behavior and new comer get rid of.
and this forum never increasse by adopter in btc price $8k+


why forum bitcoin as the main crypto community with huge volume transcation daily scared with spammer ?
dont have enough money to maintain this profitable website ?

better adding phone number for 1 account
and also for 1 verification ID with his face for 1 account and note register date and bitcointalk username. and you will not see daily register 500 member ++
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February 18, 2018, 06:08:56 AM
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Why he should give 1 sendable merit for stranger but to get 2 merit its really HARD .
and also sendable merit its not available daily , weekly or month its only gain after you receiving 2 merit for 1 Sendable meit LOL

It has been intentionally kept hard so that you really work for those merits. Also, you should expect merits from merit sources, who get some merits to spend per month.

better adding phone number for 1 account
and also for 1 verification ID with his face for 1 account and note register date and bitcointalk username. and you will not see daily register 500 member ++

How hard is it to get multiple phone numbers or verification ids ? Also, manually verifying these for the amount of registrations this forum receives will require more staff.
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February 18, 2018, 06:19:05 AM
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better adding phone number for 1 account
and also for 1 verification ID with his face for 1 account and note register date and bitcointalk username. and you will not see daily register 500 member ++

How hard is it to get multiple phone numbers or verification ids ? Also, manually verifying these for the amount of registrations this forum receives will require more staff.


This, and also some people use a VPN to browse the internet. Will they have to disconnect from that whenever they visit this forum?

Lets say you Create 1 thread . with really good quality and very informative
and if someone give you his sendable merit he will lose his Sendable merit.
and to gain that thing he should gain 2 merit again to get 1 sendable merit . LOL

This is so that their isn't an infinite circulation of merit because merit could then just be sent back and forth between a group of people and they will end up having a 10 million merit score and still have the same amount of sMerit.
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February 18, 2018, 06:22:43 AM
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As for IP addresses, there are legitimate reasons for allowing multiple accounts from the same address, particularly for IPv4 users. There are NAT based networks with thousands of people using the same public IPv4 address, and there are family members sharing the same computer, thus IPv6 address.

I like the merit system even though I joined just a few months ago and therefore have started from scratch. If you’re desperate about ranking up, you could easily receive daily merits that would allow you to zip through the ranks as fast as the activity requirements allow. It just requires the effort of posting useful stuff. A lot of new users seem to complain that they’re not receiving enough merit. That just means they’re not posting enough useful stuff. Merit is an excellent way to gain a feel of what kind of content the Bitcointalk community actually appreciates.

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February 18, 2018, 06:40:30 AM
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As for IP addresses, there are legitimate reasons for allowing multiple accounts from the same address, particularly for IPv4 users. There are NAT based networks with thousands of people using the same public IPv4 address, and there are family members sharing the same computer, thus IPv6 address.

I do not think multiple accounts are allowed from same IP address. What you mentioned about IPv4 users is correct though. When someone tries to create multiple accounts from same IP, posting is disabled on those accounts and the user will have to send some bitcoins to given address. This information is based on a thread I read in meta.
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February 18, 2018, 09:07:28 AM
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Why he should give 1 sendable merit for stranger but to get 2 merit its really HARD .
and also sendable merit its not available daily , weekly or month its only gain after you receiving 2 merit for 1 Sendable meit LOL

It has been intentionally kept hard so that you really work for those merits. Also, you should expect merits from merit sources, who get some merits to spend per month.

better adding phone number for 1 account
and also for 1 verification ID with his face for 1 account and note register date and bitcointalk username. and you will not see daily register 500 member ++

How hard is it to get multiple phone numbers or verification ids ? Also, manually verifying these for the amount of registrations this forum receives will require more staff.


Its a bit hard to let someone buy multiple phone number . for get 1 number in eu you should pay $20+ for number and should add credit phone bi weekly or monthly . so he will not register more than 10 account . if he did . he should spend $200 a day for only 10 account. so its worth for Newbie account thats still possible to get rejected ? absolutely not .

This forum adding merit system to avoid Spammer right ?
So with verification ID this forum can Avoiding Daily 500+ Register , imposible for he or she ( spammer ) will Verified all those his account because in photo verification will showing note like bitcointalk username Date Registered and with his ID .

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February 18, 2018, 09:22:47 AM
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Its a bit hard to let someone buy multiple phone number . for get 1 number in eu you should pay $20+ for number and should add credit phone bi weekly or monthly . so he will not register more than 10 account . if he did . he should spend $200 a day for only 10 account. so its worth for Newbie account thats still possible to get rejected ? absolutely not .

This forum adding merit system to avoid Spammer right ?
So with verification ID this forum can Avoiding Daily 500+ Register , imposible for he or she ( spammer ) will Verified all those his account because in photo verification will showing note like bitcointalk username Date Registered and with his ID .


Have you not seen the amount of SMS services there are that offer like 1000 messages for below 1 dollar? There was one in this forum offering it in the services section. Implementing a SMS field on registration wouldn't solve anything.

Also, no one in the Bitcoin community would be willing to upload their Identification to the forum, for several reasons. The forums been compromised in the past which means the hackers would of had the ID of hundreds of thousands of users at the time, as well as users that use Bitcoin are normally quite security conscious and don't like to give their name let alone their whole identification.
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February 18, 2018, 10:43:33 AM
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Not only phone number.
Theymos should enforce KYC and create new board where we will publicly reveal our personal information and ID's with pictures.
Picture of credit cards too. Both side.
Signed message from all wallets with funds and private keys and maybe picture of your family and friends too.

This is bloody forum would you please stop spamming it with useless merit threads and ideas just because no one has sent you merit?
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February 18, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
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Seeing how to get ranked up in bitcointalk a little weird.
you can Earn merit by posting good quality post. but the fact no one cares with your good quality post .

Lets say you Create 1 thread . with really good quality and very informative
and if someone give you his sendable merit he will lose his Sendable merit.
and to gain that thing he should gain 2 merit again to get 1 sendable merit . LOL

Why he should give 1 sendable merit for stranger but to get 2 merit its really HARD .
and also sendable merit its not available daily , weekly or month its only gain after you receiving 2 merit for 1 Sendable meit LOL


If you dont work hard you aint get it. People like this really only care about his money and his own stomach. No one cares about good quality posts? Well i have merits for my quality posts, It doesnt mean merit failed when you dont get 1.


"maybe you said. no it's not hard as you think"
Maybe because you have become a hero member / Legendary. so you have your own team to exchange merit.
or someone spammers who already have a a lot account with rank Full Member ++
Old member and old spammer more grow with his abuse behavior and new comer get rid of.
and this forum never increasse by adopter in btc price $8k+


Yup it is hard, but its not impossible. I came from full member rank when merit introduced (original merit is 100), doesnt know anyone in here, come from 3 world country, whats your reason again? oh right, high rank alt-account, the only reasons people gives when they already lose in a debate and make it as a main reason people can grow in this forum, with no valid data, classic.


why forum bitcoin as the main crypto community with huge volume transcation daily scared with spammer ?
dont have enough money to maintain this profitable website ?


So do you have money? Why do you come here to earn money then? Or why dont you make your own forum?
You are whats wrong with people nowadays, no common sense at all, spamming, flooding, shitposting is a bad things, and you dont want to fight it? and it is like you are comfortable with something bad in your place eg. a shit from your dog on your bed, are you comfortable with that bad things?


better adding phone number for 1 account
and also for 1 verification ID with his face for 1 account and note register date and bitcointalk username. and you will not see daily register 500 member ++


Wow what a solution, really great, very mature. Then what? If the admin got everyone ID then it can stop them from spamming and shitposting? Like maybe, callin you directly to your phone and ask you nicely to stop spamming? in my country i can get a phone number as low as 0.5usd. Its like you re suggesting you need an ID to register on a social media. Even a crucial things and services like email didnt bother us to gives our ID, what a solution.
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February 18, 2018, 11:45:58 AM
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Not only phone number.
Theymos should enforce KYC and create new board where we will publicly reveal our personal information and ID's with pictures.
Picture of credit cards too. Both side.
Signed message from all wallets with funds and private keys and maybe picture of your family and friends too.

This is bloody forum would you please stop spamming it with useless merit threads and ideas just because no one has sent you merit?

Even if all these information is implemented, all this can be faked. I do not think any other forum receives so much spam registrations. Only issue here is that a lot of money is involved even with discussions.
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February 18, 2018, 12:57:17 PM
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Not only phone number.
Theymos should enforce KYC and create new board where we will publicly reveal our personal information and ID's with pictures.
Picture of credit cards too. Both side.
Signed message from all wallets with funds and private keys and maybe picture of your family and friends too.

This is bloody forum would you please stop spamming it with useless merit threads and ideas just because no one has sent you merit?

Even if all these information is implemented, all this can be faked.
Huh I mean..huh?
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February 18, 2018, 05:45:09 PM
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Seeing how to get ranked up in bitcointalk a little weird.
you can Earn merit by posting good quality post. but the fact no one cares with your good quality post .

Lets say you Create 1 thread . with really good quality and very informative
and if someone give you his sendable merit he will lose his Sendable merit.
and to gain that thing he should gain 2 merit again to get 1 sendable merit . LOL

Why he should give 1 sendable merit for stranger but to get 2 merit its really HARD .
and also sendable merit its not available daily , weekly or month its only gain after you receiving 2 merit for 1 Sendable meit LOL


If you dont work hard you aint get it. People like this really only care about his money and his own stomach. No one cares about good quality posts? Well i have merits for my quality posts, It doesnt mean merit failed when you dont get 1.


"maybe you said. no it's not hard as you think"
Maybe because you have become a hero member / Legendary. so you have your own team to exchange merit.
or someone spammers who already have a a lot account with rank Full Member ++
Old member and old spammer more grow with his abuse behavior and new comer get rid of.
and this forum never increasse by adopter in btc price $8k+


Yup it is hard, but its not impossible. I came from full member rank when merit introduced (original merit is 100), doesnt know anyone in here, come from 3 world country, whats your reason again? oh right, high rank alt-account, the only reasons people gives when they already lose in a debate and make it as a main reason people can grow in this forum, with no valid data, classic.


why forum bitcoin as the main crypto community with huge volume transcation daily scared with spammer ?
dont have enough money to maintain this profitable website ?


So do you have money? Why do you come here to earn money then? Or why dont you make your own forum?
You are whats wrong with people nowadays, no common sense at all, spamming, flooding, shitposting is a bad things, and you dont want to fight it? and it is like you are comfortable with something bad in your place eg. a shit from your dog on your bed, are you comfortable with that bad things?


better adding phone number for 1 account
and also for 1 verification ID with his face for 1 account and note register date and bitcointalk username. and you will not see daily register 500 member ++


Wow what a solution, really great, very mature. Then what? If the admin got everyone ID then it can stop them from spamming and shitposting? Like maybe, callin you directly to your phone and ask you nicely to stop spamming? in my country i can get a phone number as low as 0.5usd. Its like you re suggesting you need an ID to register on a social media. Even a crucial things and services like email didnt bother us to gives our ID, what a solution.

This forum with banner ads for a week GET almost 2 BTC a WEEK (100k usd a month) .  Cant even Hire more STAFF ? i think it more than 2 BTC a week . because he a lot thing to do with his monetize technique
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2785868.msg29329465#msg29329465
Im not focus talking about his money . im concern about his SOLUTION .

SCARED with spammer ? and have no smart Solution to solve this ?

He punish for  SPAMMER False to normal member ?

He want avoiding spammer he should KYC check . so all of those Account need Verification ID . FACE . AND Name in Paper for FORUM with text his username and register date .

This system only avoiding new comer crypto from price $8k+

Spammer will never gone he already got a lot his account .
Better adding KYC Checks for every account .
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February 18, 2018, 11:08:27 PM
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Not only phone number.
Theymos should enforce KYC and create new board where we will publicly reveal our personal information and ID's with pictures.
Picture of credit cards too. Both side.
Signed message from all wallets with funds and private keys and maybe picture of your family and friends too.

This is bloody forum would you please stop spamming it with useless merit threads and ideas just because no one has sent you merit?

Even if all these information is implemented, all this can be faked. I do not think any other forum receives so much spam registrations. Only issue here is that a lot of money is involved even with discussions.
Looks like the joke went over your head pretty high

This forum with banner ads for a week GET almost 2 BTC a WEEK (100k usd a month) .  Cant even Hire more STAFF ? i think it more than 2 BTC a week . because he a lot thing to do with his monetize technique
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2785868.msg29329465#msg29329465
Im not focus talking about his money . im concern about his SOLUTION .

SCARED with spammer ? and have no smart Solution to solve this ?

He punish for  SPAMMER False to normal member ?

He want avoiding spammer he should KYC check . so all of those Account need Verification ID . FACE . AND Name in Paper for FORUM with text his username and register date .

This system only avoiding new comer crypto from price $8k+

Spammer will never gone he already got a lot his account .
Better adding KYC Checks for every account .
Those funds probably went to building the new forum and current forum maintenance, maintaining Bitcointalk is not an easy nor cheap task to do.
Theymos Will Never put KYC in here, first he have to build a server to store all of those KYC data and to secure it from hackers, that itself is a hard task (as if the forum hack in 2015 wasn't enough).
Second, this forum were built by Satoshi originally, he has a big concern regarding privacy, and I'm sure Theymos too.

Every forums has spammers, there are no forum that is free from it.
But, even we can help against spammers without KYC bullcrap, if you see a spam or posts that are against the forum rules, simply report them and the mods will sort it out quickly.
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February 19, 2018, 02:25:55 AM
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Not only phone number.
Theymos should enforce KYC and create new board where we will publicly reveal our personal information and ID's with pictures.
Picture of credit cards too. Both side.
Signed message from all wallets with funds and private keys and maybe picture of your family and friends too.

This is bloody forum would you please stop spamming it with useless merit threads and ideas just because no one has sent you merit?

Even if all these information is implemented, all this can be faked. I do not think any other forum receives so much spam registrations. Only issue here is that a lot of money is involved even with discussions.
Looks like the joke went over your head pretty high

lol @krishnaverma, marlboroza was in *sarcasm* mode and you replied seriously Cheesy
didn't you realize it was just a joke? notably when he said "picture of your family and friends too"

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February 19, 2018, 11:21:42 AM
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Not only phone number.
Theymos should enforce KYC and create new board where we will publicly reveal our personal information and ID's with pictures.
Picture of credit cards too. Both side.
Signed message from all wallets with funds and private keys and maybe picture of your family and friends too.

This is bloody forum would you please stop spamming it with useless merit threads and ideas just because no one has sent you merit?

Even if all these information is implemented, all this can be faked. I do not think any other forum receives so much spam registrations. Only issue here is that a lot of money is involved even with discussions.

Not if Theymos makes it so that all users of this board have to meet him in person before signing up and have a 15 minute conversation with him to discuss their eligibility. Come on man.

This forum with banner ads for a week GET almost 2 BTC a WEEK (100k usd a month) .  Cant even Hire more STAFF ? i think it more than 2 BTC a week . because he a lot thing to do with his monetize technique
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2785868.msg29329465#msg29329465
Im not focus talking about his money . im concern about his SOLUTION .
The forum doesn't get payed anything, the users get paid.
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February 19, 2018, 01:40:55 PM
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Not only phone number.
Theymos should enforce KYC and create new board where we will publicly reveal our personal information and ID's with pictures.
Picture of credit cards too. Both side.
Signed message from all wallets with funds and private keys and maybe picture of your family and friends too.

This is bloody forum would you please stop spamming it with useless merit threads and ideas just because no one has sent you merit?

Even if all these information is implemented, all this can be faked. I do not think any other forum receives so much spam registrations. Only issue here is that a lot of money is involved even with discussions.

Not if Theymos makes it so that all users of this board have to meet him in person before signing up and have a 15 minute conversation with him to discuss their eligibility. Come on man.

This forum with banner ads for a week GET almost 2 BTC a WEEK (100k usd a month) .  Cant even Hire more STAFF ? i think it more than 2 BTC a week . because he a lot thing to do with his monetize technique
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2785868.msg29329465#msg29329465
Im not focus talking about his money . im concern about his SOLUTION .
The forum doesn't get payed anything, the users get paid.

lol what a stupid comment .
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March 25, 2018, 10:26:22 AM
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Not only phone number.
Theymos should enforce KYC and create new board where we will publicly reveal our personal information and ID's with pictures.
Picture of credit cards too. Both side.
Signed message from all wallets with funds and private keys and maybe picture of your family and friends too.

This is bloody forum would you please stop spamming it with useless merit threads and ideas just because no one has sent you merit?

Even if all these information is implemented, all this can be faked. I do not think any other forum receives so much spam registrations. Only issue here is that a lot of money is involved even with discussions.
Someone will fake their personality and documents, but some will show all the info how it is and I am not sure that the forum has such strong anti hacking system to guarantee to all users safety of their private information. Maybe it is just "YET" Roll Eyes
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March 25, 2018, 10:40:06 AM
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>..<

You really need to step back and read the stickies.

I don't have any alts, I don't have any relatives that are members here, and I don't have any reciprocal arrangements either. I've awarded hundreds of sMerits since the system started, and I've done this because I like talking about Bitcoin, computers, politics and a few other things. If you put all the weeds and the vermin on ignore, then it is possible to use Bitcoin Talk for informed discussions. I don't lose anything by giving away these merits, and I gain by helping to clean up the forum.

The phone idea is really stupid, I can pick up a sim card for nothing, and it includes a few messages and 10 minutes of talk.

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March 25, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
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Seeing how to get ranked up in bitcointalk a little weird.
you can Earn merit by posting good quality post. but the fact no one cares with your good quality post .
Yeah a little bit weird at first but now i have learned to live with it, RULE'S are RULE'S.
I think youre wrong they really care, and even me I appreciate those good quality posts.

Lets say you Create 1 thread . with really good quality and very informative
and if someone give you his sendable merit he will lose his Sendable merit.
and to gain that thing he should gain 2 merit again to get 1 sendable merit . LOL
Yes youre right, whats wrong?

Why he should give 1 sendable merit for stranger but to get 2 merit its really HARD .
and also sendable merit its not available daily , weekly or month its only gain after you receiving 2 merit for 1 Sendable meit LOL
I already did to some post, why do I? because those post are good and some of them help's in the community or to other members.
Yes we all know that is hard but there is nothing we can do about it but to live with it.

"maybe you said. no it's not hard as you think"
Maybe because you have become a hero member / Legendary. so you have your own team to exchange merit.
or someone spammers who already have a a lot account with rank Full Member ++
Old member and old spammer more grow with his abuse behavior and new comer get rid of.
and this forum never increasse by adopter in btc price $8k+
You are wrong, even those high rank members didnt get merit easily especially those farmers many of them have already caught and get a red mark.

About those members with friends here thats their advantage but we can be friend to them too by contributing something good in this community they will someday notice us.

And about those people who has hundreds of account some of us here are making actions to caught them including me  Grin try to do it in this way we can help the community to clean those alts.

why forum bitcoin as the main crypto community with huge volume transcation daily scared with spammer ?
dont have enough money to maintain this profitable website ?
Naaahhh, they are not scared and also the forum is not the one whose sending coins, its the projects and those business. Why do think that the forum pays us? They dont even getting profit on us.
The forum needs to maintain its reputation to those businesses because this forum is trusted by many business that offers bounty to us, thats why they are eliminating those exploitative/abusive people here.

better adding phone number for 1 account
and also for 1 verification ID with his face for 1 account and note register date and bitcointalk username. and you will not see daily register 500 member ++
There are many users here that we call whales if they publish their identity its too dangerous for them to be known publicly.

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