1070's or 1080ti's?

[ViperGuyMike]

So I am trying to decide whether I should buy more 1080ti's or if I should buy 1070's? From what I have seen, the 1070's will give more hash power per dollar spent and are also more efficient power wise or hash per watt. Am I correct in my understanding? But, it seems to me that the 1080ti's would only be better if I was solo mining since they solve higher diff shares and would probably have a higher chance of finding a block? I am correct in my understanding of these issues, and do you agree or disagree?

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[WaveRiderx]

it depends on what you are mining, your available space, and your total available power source.

although one thing is for sure, I wouldn't buy any 1080ti's at current prices.

[manji]

agree,
if the problem in the difference of price and Hashrate. if you compare using price as a 'variable'  (example: you have a budget $50000). buying 1070 you will get 5 GPUs, buying 1080'ti you will get 3 GPUs. but power consumption 1070 bigger than 1080'ti (based on the total number of GPUs).

[banet]

see the nvidia 1000 series price/hash/watt table comparison here https://ba.net/zcash-eth-nvidia-mining-os/building-your-first-mining-rig.html#gpu

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[androstan1234]

The 1070s are nice bc they can be good on zec and eth if you get ones with good memory.  4/5 of my 1070s are excellent on both eth and zec.  The 1080Ti is a little better on zec (and others i.e. lyra, neoscrypt, random shitcoins).

I would prob just go with 1070s.  1070Ti would be even better.

People are overpaying for 1080Ti even more than they're overpaying for other gpus.

[ViperGuyMike]

Thanks banet, androstan, and others for replies. I will look at that comparison as well as check out the 1070ti's.

[ViperGuy]

ViperGuyMike, I'm the original ViperGuy here. lol    I had this screen name 3 or 4 years ago, then lost it, but just reinstated it, although I lost my street cred and status somehow. I also sold both my Vipers so I'm Viperless.    But I have a Demon on the way!

A couple months ago 1070Ti's would have been the way to go at $550, but at today's prices of $700+ (to get them in bulk, not piecemeal) it's not worth it. Neither are 1080Ti's at $1000. At $900 1080Ti's seam like an ok deal compared to what's left. RX570's and 580's at $380 are not bad, but if the rumors about an ASIC ETHASH are true, then all AMDs would have to go to Equihash where they don't do so well. The other problem is the lower grade you go with the card, the more of them you need, the more MB's, Ram, and PSU's you need. Each rig takes up a standing power cost as well. Two rigs use more overall energy than one rig with the equivalent GPU hashrate, and cost more. There's really not a "Great" card to buy right now, that's readily available. Yes, you can piecemeal something together one-by-one, but if you need a complete matched rig, the options are low.  If it were me, I'd try to get 1080Ti's for around $900 or less.  They will hold their value better in the long run, and you'll have less of them to sell off later.

[hous26]

ViperGuyMike, I'm the original ViperGuy here. lol    I had this screen name 3 or 4 years ago, then lost it, but just reinstated it, although I lost my street cred and status somehow. I also sold both my Vipers so I'm Viperless.    But I have a Demon on the way!

A couple months ago 1070Ti's would have been the way to go at $550, but at today's prices of $700+ (to get them in bulk, not piecemeal) it's not worth it. Neither are 1080Ti's at $1000. At $900 1080Ti's seam like an ok deal compared to what's left. RX570's and 580's at $380 are not bad, but if the rumors about an ASIC ETHASH are true, then all AMDs would have to go to Equihash where they don't do so well. The other problem is the lower grade you go with the card, the more of them you need, the more MB's, Ram, and PSU's you need. Each rig takes up a standing power cost as well. Two rigs use more overall energy than one rig with the equivalent GPU hashrate, and cost more. There's really not a "Great" card to buy right now, that's readily available. Yes, you can piecemeal something together one-by-one, but if you need a complete matched rig, the options are low.  If it were me, I'd try to get 1080Ti's for around $900 or less.  They will hold their value better in the long run, and you'll have less of them to sell off later.

1070 TI's were $469.   

[Bob-Bit]

I'm looking at building a second rig at the moment. The first one I built is with 1080ti's, but from what I'm seeing it looks like the best at the moment is the 1070. Looks to make as much or more the nhe 1070ti for less money. It looks like each one can be powered by one VGA cable to the power supply, where the 1080ti's I have require 2 8 pin plugs, which costs more for power supplys, and then the plug to mate the power supplys together etc. Looks like a Corsair or EVGA 1600 watt power supply will do 8 1070s, @150 watts apiece, which is nice and easy from my point of view. I'm going to get one of the 12 card motherboards, and do 8 1070's, then maybe (eventually) get a second power supply (1200 watt) to power 4 AMD cards on the same motherboard. Good luck to you!

[ssmokeyy]

I have add gtx 1080's and 1070ti's. My 1070ti rig just works doesn't need a shit ton of power and just gets the job done. my 1080 rig has been haven problems. I have only add one month that there wasn't a problem with the 1080 rig.  If its not mining its loosing money.

[androstan1234]

Several AIB 1070s require 8+6 or 8+8 VGA connectors.  So if you're looking for single 8-pin cards, do your due diligence and research and make sure the 1070 you're buying only has a single 8-pin.

[Bob-Bit]

Several AIB 1070s require 8+6 or 8+8 VGA connectors.  So if you're looking for single 8-pin cards, do your due diligence and research and make sure the 1070 you're buying only has a single 8-pin.

Yeah, the ones I was looking at use the 8 pin and 6 pin, but from what other more experienced folks tell me, as long as it's not over 150w going thru the cable (the riser can do up to 75 of the total for the card) that you can use one of the modular plug cables that have the 8 pin, with 6 pin branched off (so you don't have to waste more then one VGA plug on the psu per card). Good call, I should of been more specific.

[androstan1234]

Several AIB 1070s require 8+6 or 8+8 VGA connectors.  So if you're looking for single 8-pin cards, do your due diligence and research and make sure the 1070 you're buying only has a single 8-pin.

Yeah, the ones I was looking at use the 8 pin and 6 pin, but from what other more experienced folks tell me, as long as it's not over 150w going thru the cable (the riser can do up to 75 of the total for the card) that you can use one of the modular plug cables that have the 8 pin, with 6 pin branched off (so you don't have to waste more then one VGA plug on the psu per card). Good call, I should of been more specific.

That's exactly right.  I use the splitter vga cables with one 8-pin and one 6+2 to power my 1070s, no problem.

[zokilnmet]

 If you are thinking about getting a new GPU today that gives crazy performance for the money the GTX 1070Ti is the best choice available.

[visten]

I am having pre-ordered the 1070 Gigabyte Windforce (Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 WINDFORCE OC 8G REV2.0 Graphic Cards (GV-N1070WF2OC-8GD REV2.0)
) for roughly 590 USD and they should ship soon or would you guys rather recommend to get those ones over a 70 USD more expensive 1070ti Gaming (https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B0775GL84Z/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)?

With the 1070, I noticed that the have 6+2 pin adapters whether the 1070ti does have a 8-pin. I am a beginner, therefore it seems to be beneficial going with a 6pin+2 just to have the option to get more cards into one PSU, right?

However, can I go wrong with any of those cards for that price at the moment?

[androstan1234]

At a $70 premium, def 1070ti.

[ViperGuyMike]

ViperGuyMike, I'm the original ViperGuy here. lol    I had this screen name 3 or 4 years ago, then lost it, but just reinstated it, although I lost my street cred and status somehow. I also sold both my Vipers so I'm Viperless.    But I have a Demon on the way!

A couple months ago 1070Ti's would have been the way to go at $550, but at today's prices of $700+ (to get them in bulk, not piecemeal) it's not worth it. Neither are 1080Ti's at $1000. At $900 1080Ti's seam like an ok deal compared to what's left. RX570's and 580's at $380 are not bad, but if the rumors about an ASIC ETHASH are true, then all AMDs would have to go to Equihash where they don't do so well. The other problem is the lower grade you go with the card, the more of them you need, the more MB's, Ram, and PSU's you need. Each rig takes up a standing power cost as well. Two rigs use more overall energy than one rig with the equivalent GPU hashrate, and cost more. There's really not a "Great" card to buy right now, that's readily available. Yes, you can piecemeal something together one-by-one, but if you need a complete matched rig, the options are low.  If it were me, I'd try to get 1080Ti's for around $900 or less.  They will hold their value better in the long run, and you'll have less of them to sell off later.

Nice to meet you! I haven't had my Viper ('06 First Edition #27) for many many years, but I have kept using the name. All my cars had to become construction equipment, but I have been eying the newer model preowned Vipers...lol.

I have been keeping up with the possible issue with the ETH and the ASIC being developed and what that may mean for the AMD's like you mentioned. And I definitely understand about the resale aspect and more hash with less supporting hardware, it makes complete sense. I have been lucky so far and have been finding GPU's far cheaper than advertised online, but I still haven't found a 1080ti for less than like $850 or so. I will probably pick another 1080ti or two up in the next week or two as I can easily fit two more cards on my current rig. I already have another MB, ram, and CPU for my next rig, but I will wait until I can get more cards before building it. Thanks for all of the info and suggestions everyone.

[cheloveksgor]

ViperGuyMike, I'm the original ViperGuy here. lol    I had this screen name 3 or 4 years ago, then lost it, but just reinstated it, although I lost my street cred and status somehow. I also sold both my Vipers so I'm Viperless.    But I have a Demon on the way!

A couple months ago 1070Ti's would have been the way to go at $550, but at today's prices of $700+ (to get them in bulk, not piecemeal) it's not worth it. Neither are 1080Ti's at $1000. At $900 1080Ti's seam like an ok deal compared to what's left. RX570's and 580's at $380 are not bad, but if the rumors about an ASIC ETHASH are true, then all AMDs would have to go to Equihash where they don't do so well. The other problem is the lower grade you go with the card, the more of them you need, the more MB's, Ram, and PSU's you need. Each rig takes up a standing power cost as well. Two rigs use more overall energy than one rig with the equivalent GPU hashrate, and cost more. There's really not a "Great" card to buy right now, that's readily available. Yes, you can piecemeal something together one-by-one, but if you need a complete matched rig, the options are low.  If it were me, I'd try to get 1080Ti's for around $900 or less.  They will hold their value better in the long run, and you'll have less of them to sell off later.

Nice to meet you! I haven't had my Viper ('06 First Edition #27) for many many years, but I have kept using the name. All my cars had to become construction equipment, but I have been eying the newer model preowned Vipers...lol.

I have been keeping up with the possible issue with the ETH and the ASIC being developed and what that may mean for the AMD's like you mentioned. And I definitely understand about the resale aspect and more hash with less supporting hardware, it makes complete sense. I have been lucky so far and have been finding GPU's far cheaper than advertised online, but I still haven't found a 1080ti for less than like $850 or so. I will probably pick another 1080ti or two up in the next week or two as I can easily fit two more cards on my current rig. I already have another MB, ram, and CPU for my next rig, but I will wait until I can get more cards before building it. Thanks for all of the info and suggestions everyone.

now better wait a good price then buy smth, just wait and mine)

[WaveRiderx]

in today's market I wouldn't worry about card pin layout.  just get what you can that is good and you can buy single 8pin to dual 8pin adapters if needed.  just be aware of the power and cable requirements/capabilities.