Lophie: I love Vod

[lophie]

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[Vod]

We don't really care about credentials - it's collateral we want.

Would you be willing to transfer those shares to an escrow until the loan is paid back?

[lophie]

We don't really care about credentials - it's collateral we want.

Would you be willing to transfer those shares to an escrow until the loan is paid back?

Yes I am willing but the share transfer would not be completed by that time -_-. Besides playing the arb. between BTCT and Bitfunder would pay off the whole loan .

[AndrewWilliams]

For this deal to work, your shares need to be escrowed either by 3rd party, or by the company who issued the shares.

10 BTC is alot of money.

The biggest hurdle for me is you are in the Philippines. Even if you signed an agreement I would not be familiar with collecting in that country, as I am based in the United States.

Docs do not do much if you are out of jurisdiction.

What is your purpose for the loan?

[lophie]

For this deal to work, your shares need to be escrowed either by 3rd party, or by the company who issued the shares.

10 BTC is alot of money.

The biggest hurdle for me is you are in the Philippines. Even if you signed an agreement I would not be familiar with collecting in that country, as I am based in the United States.

Docs do not do much if you are out of jurisdiction.

What is your purpose for the loan?

I agree with you. I wish I had a longer time frame fr the request or if the shares were on a PT so I could just issue a transfer of shares. But I cannot.

I am honest but I do realize that words are meaningless here. I am offering credentials, proof that I can pay back the loan easily. And if you want a friendly skype video chat (some people can steal such credentials, a video chat would proof I am the actual person in the pics.). Also you could ask around about me from the people I have dealt way more then this amount. Like Jutarul, DM90, shawshankinmate37927, TAT, John K. and others.

I wish I could provide more but this is what in hand at the moment. I wish I needed this loan at better times where I could wait for friedcat to do the transfer to the escrow and back from the escrow within the repayment time frame. But if I could wait that long I wouldn't be needing a loan would I .

Thank you all for the interest and I understand if you prefer not to loan me. If you decided to do so I thank you twice, thrice and many times.

- Lophie


EDIT: If any of you is comfortable with the information I am offering but thinks the amount is too high for that. Please tell me the amount you are comfortable with. Thank you.

[Kouye]

What do you need that loan for ?
How do you plan on repaying ?

About the AM shares:
- Send a pm to FC - with loaner and John K in c/c, explaining you give John the right to claim x shares, and you're not allowed to transfer any share until this is over.
- If you default, John can just then claim the shares from you and pass them to loaner.

That'd work as a collateral for me, I just don't have the 10BTC right now.

[lophie]

What do you need that loan for ?
How do you plan on repaying ?

About the AM shares:
- Send a pm to FC - with loaner and John K in c/c, explaining you give John the right to claim x shares, and you're not allowed to transfer any share until this is over.
- If you default, John can just then claim the shares from you and pass them to loaner.

That'd work as a collateral for me, I just don't have the 10BTC right now.

The loan is for paying for unexpected family emergency expenses. I plan to repay it with the dividends from ASICMINER shares accumulating from Friday the 27th, Oct 4th and 11th, plus selling a few shares just enough to complement up to 10BTC.

I intend on lowering the amount and the time frame if that would make a lender more comfortable. I will change the OP.

[lophie]

OP changed to half the amount for a week less time frame. Hopefully it would make lenders more comfortable regarding the information offered.

[Kouye]

Send a PM (To John. K, friedcat, and me), stating you allow John K. to seize - through a simple pm to FC - 20 direct shares from you until John releases you through a PM to FC. Just in case you would default.

In that PM, you must ask FC to freeze all your shares (no transfer at all) until John either seizes 20 shares or releases the lock.
If you do that, and agree to repay BTC5.5, which will mostly used to tip FC and John for the hassle, then I can cover.

That proposition is bound to John agreement, so I'd need a pm or a post here stating he's ok for this, before, which I let you handle.

[lophie]

Send a PM (To John. K, friedcat, and me), stating you allow John K. to seize - through a simple pm to FC - 20 direct shares from you until John releases you through a PM to FC. Just in case you would default.

In that PM, you must ask FC to freeze all your shares (no transfer at all) until John either seizes 20 shares or releases the lock.
If you do that, and agree to repay BTC5.5, which will mostly used to tip FC and John for the hassle, then I can cover.

That proposition is bound to John agreement, so I'd need a pm or a post here stating he's ok for this, before, which I let you handle.

Sounds good but it would need far more than 24 hours for F.C.'s reply.

[Kouye]

If you send a message signed with date, context and nickname, using the address you receive divs on, I'll consider not waiting for FC reply.
I'll just bet on the fact you won't sell all those shares to scam for 5BTC.
Still need my first requirements to be covered, though.

[lophie]

If you send a message signed with date, context and nickname, using the address you receive divs on, I'll consider not waiting for FC reply.
I'll just bet on the fact you won't sell all those shares to scam for 5BTC.
Still need my first requirements to be covered, though.

I am sorry I got a response from Andrew Williams first and I completed my part of the contract. I also promised to post it here for the public eyes. If he fails to deliver the 5 BTC as stated in the contract I will contact you. Thank you.

[Kouye]

Hahaha... Ok.
If he sends you 5BTC, consider not repaying.

[AndrewWilliams]

Hahaha... Ok.
If he sends you 5BTC, consider not repaying.

Hello

Any reason you are telling my borrower to steal from me?

[lophie]

Hahaha... Ok.
If he sends you 5BTC, consider not repaying.

Not forfeiting my shares  . And  I am an honest person  .

[Vod]

Hahaha... Ok.
If he sends you 5BTC, consider not repaying.

Hello

Any reason you are telling my borrower to steal from me?

Because you will sell or fraudulently use the personal information you received in the future?

[AndrewWilliams]

Hahaha... Ok.
If he sends you 5BTC, consider not repaying.

Hello

Any reason you are telling my borrower to steal from me?

Because you will sell or fraudulently use the personal information you received in the future?

Stop spamming other people's threads. I will deal with you on the thread you made.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299109.msg3206891#msg3206891p

[Vod]

Stop spamming other people's threads. I will deal with you on the thread you made.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299109.msg3206891#msg3206891p

You're a hypocrite.  You've been attacking me on every thread I have posted in today.   

[hardinero007]

hi, in my opinion, i think lophie is a trustworthy person.  just some weeks back, he's selling lots of btc.  maybe he just bought in all asicminer shares his btc can, that's why he's out of btc.  i'm in the philippines too.  i hope i can provide the loan, but i don't understand how fast can transfer of asicminer directshare be done.  lophie, have you sold out all your bitcoins?

regards
   

[lophie]

hi, in my opinion, i think lophie is a trustworthy person.  just some weeks back, he's selling lots of btc.  maybe he just bought in all asicminer shares his btc can, that's why he's out of btc.  i'm in the philippines too.  i hope i can provide the loan, but i don't understand how fast can transfer of asicminer directshare be done.  lophie, have you sold out all your bitcoins?

regards
   

Hello ^_^. Yes you are correct. I am bullish enough in ASICMINER that I believe in a period of three weeks I will get more BTC with a few shares than 6BTC, whether if I sold them now they would not even be 4 BTC. (Just a couple of them). So since I need the money taking a loan with 20% interest is cheaper than selling ASICMINER shares that net those 5 BTC.

Only time would tell. And it is not a grave gamble I can handle the amount easily. BTW if you are in the philippines as well (I am a foreigner btw >_<) watch the pilipinas thread closely I am releasing a nice free SMS service in the next couple of days. Kinda cool.

- Lophie