sam53 (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 09:11:36 PM |
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Cryptsy is a great place to trade alt coins, it is my favorite place.
However, myself and many others noted that there are too many coins on it. On one hand, some coins virtually have no trades each day, on the other hand some new and great coins can not be traded there because of the limitations of the resources (servers, disks, memory etc). One suggestion is that we periodically delist those coins that consistently have very low trading volumes. Does cryptsy have such process in place?
From last 24 hour's data, here are the top 15 coins with lowest volumes (last 24 hrs):
NBL/BTC Nibble → BitCoin 4.00000000 CNC/BTC CHNCoin → BitCoin 14.21960000 CPR/LTC CopperBars → LiteCoin 16.13666584 BTB/BTC BitBar → BitCoin 21.71669444 ELC/BTC ElaCoin → BitCoin 33.09783564 PYC/BTC PayCoin → BitCoin 39.00000000 NMC/BTC NameCoin → BitCoin 45.22503747 BTG/BTC BitGem → BitCoin 50.33281928 YBC/BTC YBCoin → BitCoin 79.13253595 NVC/BTC NovaCoin → BitCoin 117.27379414 HYC/BTC HyperCoin → BitCoin 302.00000000 DBL/LTC Doubloons → LiteCoin 450.29868286 BTE/BTC ByteCoin → BitCoin 525.11783463 DVC/LTC DevCoin → LiteCoin 599.18201988 TRC/BTC TerraCoin → BitCoin 609.79722491
I'd suggest that they be delisted, so cryptsy can list better and active coins for trades. This is also in the best interests of cryptsy.
I did not suggest these are bad coins. For example, NMC/NVC/TRC are great coins, but they mostly trade at exchanges like btc-e.com. People come to cryptsy not for trading these coins, but they are great ones.
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valley365
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September 21, 2013, 09:20:58 PM |
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Cryptsy is a great place to trade alt coins, it is my favorite place.
However, myself and many others noted that there are too many coins on it. On one hand, some coins virtually have no trades each day, on the other hand some new and great coins can not be traded there because of the limitations of the resources (servers, disks, memory etc). One suggestion is that we periodically delist those coins that consistently have very low trading volumes. Does cryptsy have such process in place?
From last 24 hour's data, here are the top 15 coins with lowest volumes (last 24 hrs):
NBL/BTC Nibble → BitCoin 4.00000000 CNC/BTC CHNCoin → BitCoin 14.21960000 CPR/LTC CopperBars → LiteCoin 16.13666584 BTB/BTC BitBar → BitCoin 21.71669444 ELC/BTC ElaCoin → BitCoin 33.09783564 PYC/BTC PayCoin → BitCoin 39.00000000 NMC/BTC NameCoin → BitCoin 45.22503747 BTG/BTC BitGem → BitCoin 50.33281928 YBC/BTC YBCoin → BitCoin 79.13253595 NVC/BTC NovaCoin → BitCoin 117.27379414 HYC/BTC HyperCoin → BitCoin 302.00000000 DBL/LTC Doubloons → LiteCoin 450.29868286 BTE/BTC ByteCoin → BitCoin 525.11783463 DVC/LTC DevCoin → LiteCoin 599.18201988 TRC/BTC TerraCoin → BitCoin 609.79722491
I'd suggest that they be delisted, so cryptsy can list better and active coins for trades. This is also in the best interests of cryptsy.
I did not suggest these are bad coins. For example, NMC/NVC/TRC are great coins, but they mostly trade at exchanges like btc-e.com. People come to cryptsy not for trading these coins, but they are great ones.
Support! Very valid points. Very low volume=no interests, and thus should be delisted.
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ahmed_bodi
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September 21, 2013, 09:23:22 PM |
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wrong above. bte is in that list as an example,., and recent polls by me have proven there is still quite a bit of interest in it
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sam53 (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 09:25:13 PM |
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To be fair, some have more coins and some have less coins, maybe (trading volume)/(total coin supply) is a better measure for the trader's interests, and we can use 7-day average. This will be a more precise indicator.
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sam53 (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 09:26:47 PM |
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wrong above. bte is in that list as an example,., and recent polls by me have proven there is still quite a bit of interest in it
interest or not, is not what you said, it is shown in the trades. There's no disguise of it. Making polls you can do whatever you like, is of no indication to me at all.
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ahmed_bodi
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September 21, 2013, 09:42:27 PM |
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im ot arguing with that, but the current trades can change over time also the insanely high diff on bte and slow block time affects the trade's
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sam53 (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 09:48:06 PM |
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im ot arguing with that, but the current trades can change over time also the insanely high diff on bte and slow block time affects the trade's
I agree, that's why I suggested to use a 7-day average, or even 14-day average.
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ahmed_bodi
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September 21, 2013, 09:49:17 PM |
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i think it should be voted on in order to decide. i know bte would be traded a lot if it wasnt diff locked like it is atm
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September 21, 2013, 09:51:17 PM |
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16 CPR is like 10000 blocks worth of coins. I would say that's pretty decent flow lol
Nice research though
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September 21, 2013, 10:03:34 PM |
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A "delousing" process.
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September 21, 2013, 10:04:48 PM |
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You can just de-select the coins you don't want to see on Cryptsy. I don't see a problem here.
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September 21, 2013, 10:05:02 PM |
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ahmed is making a lot of sense listen to him.. and nuggets had 0 trading in one 24 hr period yet that is not in your list..
what do you suggest you replace these coins with then ? today's crappy scam coin of the day ? why feed the monster ? your basically helping promote shady dev's that want to hide and pump new coins every 24 hrs. People jump on every single coin they hear about then demand they be on exchanges and your guys and the shady dev's are killing the scene..
and i did my research too (looked at cryptsy's main page stats lol)
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sam53 (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 10:06:50 PM |
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16 CPR is like 10000 blocks worth of coins. I would say that's pretty decent flow lol
Nice research though
I agree, that's why I proposed to use 7-day average value of (trading volume)/(total coin supply), this should give the true picture. Also, I know I touched someone's nerve, yes these crappy coins that have no interests at all. Post whatever you like to say, but your words will not change the *facts*.
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ahmed_bodi
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September 21, 2013, 10:26:24 PM |
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ahmed is making a lot of sense listen to him.. and nuggets had 0 trading in one 24 hr period yet that is not in your list..
what do you suggest you replace these coins with then ? today's crappy scam coin of the day ? why feed the monster ? your basically helping promote shady dev's that want to hide and pump new coins every 24 hrs. People jump on every single coin they hear about then demand they be on exchanges and your guys and the shady dev's are killing the scene..
and i did my research too (looked at cryptsy's main page stats lol)
thanks, i can name 50% of coins there which have lost dev support
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September 21, 2013, 10:30:51 PM |
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Wouldn't it make more sense to measure how many bitcoins or dollars or something worth of coin traded?
Especially since what will pay for more disk space and so on - server resources - is presumably the actual fees, converted into whatever currency such bills get paid in?
Why does it matter whether a million dollars of trade in a coin happens to be one billionth of the number of those coins that exist, or 100% of them, or whether it is a fraction of a coin or a billion coins?
Even if more than 100% of all the coins of a given type that were ever minted trade (due to velocity, every coin of it changing hands several times a day), if the fees on that don't cover the server/hosting/etc resources consumed it is one of the ones that needs to go.
Just being popular shouldn't matter if it can't pay its bills...
-MarkM-
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ahmed_bodi
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September 21, 2013, 10:40:40 PM |
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+100000 markm
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September 21, 2013, 11:00:41 PM |
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Thanks. It occurred to me to look at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/inbtc.html ... Supposedly one Martian BotCoin was worth 309.49363387 BiTCoins some hours ago when that table was collated. Cryptsy should be so lucky as to have someone trade a Martian BotCoin there. Even though 21 million of them exist, all pre-mined. -MarkM-
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QuantPlus
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September 21, 2013, 11:25:16 PM |
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some new and great coins can not be traded there because of the limitations of the resources (servers, disks, memory etc)...
I also did some research... And went through about a dozen obscure coins on Cryptsy... And they all pretty much averaged about 0.5 BTC/day = $65/day... So if fees are 0.2% that's $0.13/day gross profit. Are these people slave workers wearing dog collars? I'm basically speechless.
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ronimacarroni
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September 21, 2013, 11:35:34 PM |
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hey i have namecoins. Nothing wrong with them. They're stable and be used for .bit domains if I ever wanted one for some reason.
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shakezula
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September 21, 2013, 11:46:30 PM |
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Yea, and Doubloons are historic, one of the first clones! Pfft to your posturing against them
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