margin trades explained

[mercedes321]

dumped 200 neos at 133, still holding 70 units not with good avergae price, will get buy back after we break 133 , how funny that is
but i longed the bit, will add after we break the 10K, average price is 10.3K,  looking good for bulls, but illsave the guns after the breakout and a retest.

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[Leonard2016]

I never did margin trading and i'm not interested , i think it is too risky , somehow like gambling!

[mercedes321]

its kinda gambling, and the fees are preety high. anyway Longed 3 BITS, entry 10633, SL 10600, TP 13666.
lets say its hit, ill loose 150 usd, if its not ill add, and add untill we reach 13666. if its hit, ill take a break.

[allohha]

dumped 200 neos at 133, still holding 70 units not with good avergae price, will get buy back after we break 133 , how funny that is
but i longed the bit, will add after we break the 10K, average price is 10.3K,  looking good for bulls, but illsave the guns after the breakout and a retest.

why then risk, if the prospect in the future may not be. I would rather pay attention to more promising opportunities. At least he would have left the risk of losing his investment.

[mercedes321]

its true, dont take the trade, noone is telling u to do,... also investing is gamlbing, not so intensive, its more relaxed. and i agree we should treat margin as such in that way, lets try the relaxed ones...lol

some good links:
https://dailypriceaction.com/articles/is-forex-trading-gambling
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/013015/worst-mistakes-beginner-traders-make.asp
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/053115/how-learn-your-trading-mistakes.asp
http://uk.businessinsider.com/flash-crash-on-bitfinex-leaves-crypto-traders-angry-2017-12

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[JaredStein]

Margin trading is risky and you shouldn't trade marginally with over %20 of your money. I lost a lot of money with margin trading, money I could have invested in bitcoin and it would become a lot more. I don't even want to think about how much I could have had if I never traded on margin.


I learned my lesson though. Especially be careful with shorting.

[mercedes321]

its even more risky if you are longing, and flash crashes happens. they happen more offen on the downside, and bitf. doesnt recover them. So lets try to play it safe if thats possible at all.

[ksiazek7]

I assume you would do this on any exchange with high volume?  It seems like something that would work really well with coss.io if it starts to get enough trading volume with it's fee structure going down based on your trade volume.

[wumBowo]

i curious if you guys already set your STOPLOSS , do you guys indeed sell your coins ? or waiting for some dip (create a new STOPLOSS)

[mercedes321]

i am out of margin, market undecided, i know its acumulating for a bigger move, but i need a break., did cash out some 15K, only non margin,...buying.

[mercedes321]

I assume you would do this on any exchange with high volume?  It seems like something that would work really well with coss.io if it starts to get enough trading volume with it's fee structure going down based on your trade volume.

no soory, it doesnt have/usd pairs, if to play against btc then its polo quite ok.. ...it would be way to nice if binance or polo could offer margin for /usd pairs., then we could really see year 2018 better then 2017...in terms of total market cap...LOL

[mercedes321]

lets do like a pros. I am not good at binance, it moves too fast, so in 99% i loose money, only 1 time i multiple it x7 with the ARN, and since then i am loosing there, so thos who think that at binance u cant loose u are wrong, evrywhere u can loose and win its all one big peculative buble.
so i took one more trade on margin.
Bought NEO/usd at 127
SL: 122
TP: 146
risk if SL hit: 1%
risk if liqudation level HIT: 10%

[mercedes321]

when i saw that video, i make a such a good laugh, so i move the SL to 114

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxAguzN5OJQ

[mercedes321]

added at 117.50
SL: 105, will be moved up, after a clear break and retest of 120.
TP: 133-136, might be moved up.
risk: 4%
risk2: 15%

[capoeira]

crypto is allready volatil. you shouldn't use margin to trade amounts you couldn't trade without it. it's usefull in order to leave less money on the exchange

[mercedes321]

well i tell you honestly i sold half of my portfolio at 133 NEO to Fiat, so i wont go to the bank to lend me some cash, its more cheaper if i lend it at brokers,...same thing but cheaper. P.

[capoeira]

well i tell you honestly i sold half of my portfolio at 133 NEO to Fiat, so i wont go to the bank to lend me some cash, its more cheaper if i lend it at brokers,...same thing but cheaper. P.

I was writing more generaly. Since you seam to risk 1-4% of trading capital at stoploss, you actualy know what you are doing

[mercedes321]

agree, this is really a small trade, no worriers if it goes to 107...

[mercedes321]

added a little more at 111.5
SL 105
risk: 6%
TP129-135

i also put several buy stops untill 119
Now its up to the market to do what ever will do

[gahsh]

Margin trading is risky and you shouldn't trade marginally with over %20 of your money. I lost a lot of money with margin trading, money I could have invested in bitcoin and it would become a lot more. I don't even want to think about how much I could have had if I never traded on margin.


I learned my lesson though. Especially be careful with shorting.

sometimes people like to play margin because maybe they have the capital to trade small, but with him playing the margin he can increase their capital so increase, maybe for traders who do not know the risk they will be happy because he got a big profit But they will regret it because of the price decline, and even they will lose all the assets they have.