Should merit system be kept?

[Hunky]

Russian spammers are quite annoying. I'm waiting for someone to top the *~200 office employees* Russian spammer. Go whine somewhere else.

I would have smashed your face, but Zarathustra did not allow it.

[Bitfort]

It is obvious that people, that allready have rank member+ likes merit system - prise of signature and bounty bonus is higher.  Newbies with new system lose the opportunity to get at least a full member.

And again question. Why actually they need to rank up? Why do people care about it so much?
The answer is obvious. Signature camp ... and if this is the main aim then such people are not welcome here.

I don't have any problem to sacrifice my rank as I don't need it ...  putting links in signature and posting pictures is sufficient for me.

[Vod]

Let's zero out the ranks, and see how the people on top again reach the legend.

Excuse me?  I've spend the last five years of my life making this forum a better place.  I was busting scammers when you were discovering you had fingers and toes.

I deserve recognition and privilege for my sacrifice.  I don't get paid you know!

[TMAN]

Let's zero out the ranks, and see how the people on top again reach the legend.

Excuse me?  I've spend the last five years of my life making this forum a better place.  I was busting scammers when you were discovering you had fingers and toes.

I deserve recognition and privilege for my sacrifice.  I don't get paid you know!

we all started with a set number - total newbies 0.. Legendary members got 1K... oh and I see VOD has amassed a further 300 merit.. that's not from shitposting is it fella?

[Klara_karlovna]

It is obvious that people, that allready have rank member+ likes merit system - prise of signature and bounty bonus is higher.  Newbies with new system lose the opportunity to get at least a full member.

And again question. Why actually they need to rank up? Why do people care about it so much?
The answer is obvious. Signature camp ... and if this is the main aim then such people are not welcome here.

I don't have any problem to sacrifice my rank as I don't need it ...  putting links in signature and posting pictures is sufficient for me.

"the well-fed don't understand the hungry" Russian proverb

[3acaga]

Hi guys, what I see at the moment: 27% on and 73% is not.
More than 2/3 of the number voted against such a system of dignity. I see that 27% basically includes already established on the forum of personality, but think about the fact that if there were not the remaining 2/3 who vote against - our forum would only get worse .
P.S. Enter then and the system of negative actions, so that there is a balance

[coinsniperX]

Nice try, already voted and hope that it will help for administration to make a right decision.

[BenOnceAgain]

I think the merit system should be kept even though it does make it harder to "rank up".  I believe that was part of the reason it was put in place.  This forum does get quite crowded with poor quality posts, and to the extent that those posts are made solely to rank up, the merit system will help alleviate that problem.  I view that as a positive as there are some really good discussions on here and it will be easier to find them without all the garbage posts.

Over some period of time, as long as people keep rewarding good posts with merit, the kinks should work themselves out.  The initial distribution would have had problems no matter how it was done, there's an adjustment period of any change of this nature.  I just think that the moderators and management should keep an eye on how it's being used over time, and make adjustments if needed.

It looks like they're doing that, when my organization profile, BTRIC, bought the copper membership it was so it could post images and have a signature.  When the merit system came into place, the link part of the signature stopped working but it seems to be enabled again.

One thing that I learned about BCT is that I should have made an account long ago.  I've been dabbling in crypto here and there for years and a long-time lurker of this board, well before I made an account.  I'm sure there are many others that did the same.  So when I made the account for BTRIC I did it pretty much as soon as I formed the organization.

Best regards,
Ben

[NakiRR]

i didn't support this system from the first day and respect people who have their own opinion and not just do what was said to them by high-ranked members.
And of course i don't see any benefits of merits, the quantity of low-quality posts didn't reduce and instead that we are watching thousands of newbies which are making very low-quality posts for to rank-up to Jr.'s and than they register new accounts and do this again and again)

[Coin-1]

I think that the merit system must be kept, else too many people on the forum will be Legendary in the near future. Yes, the accepted rules is pretty severe, but we all need to observe a subordination, because the old users made this forum founded by Satoshi Nakamoto grow during ten years. The bounty signature campaigns is not a primary reason why we are here. This forum is the best source of information concerned to cryptocurrencies and is even the good marketplace to buy or sell coins.

[zhekinsp]

i didn't support this system from the first day and respect people who have their own opinion and not just do what was said to them by high-ranked members.
And of course i don't see any benefits of merits, the quantity of low-quality posts didn't reduce and instead that we are watching thousands of newbies which are making very low-quality posts for to rank-up to Jr.'s and than they register new accounts and do this again and again)

But there will be no use even if they continuous to do so with new and Jr.member accounts.The only way to increase the quality posts by merits system and I like the system too but in the system some changes will be made in the future but I don't think it will be completely taken off again.

Yeah still there is no changes but there will be changes will comen when the time passes shit posters will fade away once they can't join in the signature campaigns.So lets wait for the new system to do its work.

[cryptocurrenciesboom]

It is desirable to provide more summary statistics: rank - the ratio of the pros and cons of people of this rank! This way users can evaluate who wants to leave the system-beginners or old users!

[NakiRR]

i didn't support this system from the first day and respect people who have their own opinion and not just do what was said to them by high-ranked members.
And of course i don't see any benefits of merits, the quantity of low-quality posts didn't reduce and instead that we are watching thousands of newbies which are making very low-quality posts for to rank-up to Jr.'s and than they register new accounts and do this again and again)

But there will be no use even if they continuous to do so with new and Jr.member accounts.The only way to increase the quality posts by merits system and I like the system too but in the system some changes will be made in the future but I don't think it will be completely taken off again.

Yeah still there is no changes but there will be changes will comen when the time passes shit posters will fade away once they can't join in the signature campaigns.So lets wait for the new system to do its work.

Yes, i don't understand for what they do this but i'm watching an army of newbies attacking the forum by low-quality posts)) And yes, i think such votes will not have enough influence for to broke up merit system, but the system definitely have to be improved. Hope that it will be soon coz i don't see that people merit each ether for good content, they all just keep saving their sMerits or give it to their multiaccounts. And this thread may be just a trying to collect a few merits too))

[The Sceptical Chymist]

And of course i don't see any benefits of merits

The shitposting platoon will never see (or reap) the benefits, and they will forever feel persecuted and discriminated against, and for as long as they're around, they'll keep making theads to voice their frustration--but they'll also never figure out that it's because they keep posting unintelligible garbage in spam threads that nobody is ever going to read.  That's the uncomfortable truth.

I'd also like to reinforce something that Vod has said, which is that it's too early to tell whether the merit system is going to weed out shitposters and account farmers, or to what extent. 

Everyone is still getting used to the system, but I do think these fools are going to realize the futility of just mindlessly shitposting, that bitcointalk ain't what it used to be.   That'll take some time--maybe months, or even a year.  It's too early to assess the benefits and waaay too early to declare failure.

[LTU_btc]

I'm just quoting what theymos already said:

If the merit system completely fails and I can't think of anything else to replace it, then my next step will probably be to completely remove all ways for forum users to make money from posting (eg. removing signatures entirely).

I'm not sure why all these spammers are against Merit system :/

[TMAN]

I'm just quoting what theymos already said:

If the merit system completely fails and I can't think of anything else to replace it, then my next step will probably be to completely remove all ways for forum users to make money from posting (eg. removing signatures entirely).

I'm not sure why all these spammers are against Merit system :/

The rest of us need to get behind it. If only sr plus members are getting merit then so be it, at least it is being used

[NakiRR]

If the merit system completely fails and I can't think of anything else to replace it, then my next step will probably be to completely remove all ways for forum users to make money from posting (eg. removing signatures entirely).

Unfortunately this is the one way to reduce the quantity of low-quality posts on this forum.