Is Global Warming Real?

[BADecker]

The scariest part is the areas of the globe that are already hot that will get hotter still, pushing the limit of human survivability. We are close already in places to temperatures where the human body cannot cool itself.
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/heatwave-unsurvivable-climate-change-india-pakistan-bangladesh-2100-global-warming-a7874016.html

Don't worry about it so much. Relief is in sight. Check the article for links to proof.


https://www.zerohedge.com/health/are-you-ready-catastrophically-cold-winter-heres-what-mainstream-media-wont-tell-you

Over the next several days, it will literally feel like it is mid-January in much of the central and eastern portions of the United States. Many areas will be hit by temperatures that are 30 degrees below normal, and heavy snow is expected in some areas of the Midwest. Unfortunately, this bitterly cold weather is coming at a very bad time for corn farmers. According to the latest USDA crop progress report, only 52 percent of the corn in the middle of the country has been harvested. So about half of the corn is still sitting out there, and these extraordinarily low temperatures could potentially be absolutely devastating. In essence, this cold front threatens to put an exclamation point on an absolutely horrific year for U.S. farmers. According to the National Weather Service, we could possibly see "170 potential daily record cold high temperatures" over the next three days…

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[styca]

Yes, (human-caused) global warming does cause dramatic weather events. Global warming means warmer on average across the whole planet. It means more extreme heatwaves and droughts, but it also means stronger hurricanes, heavier storms, more snow in winter - just not everywhere at the same time. My town currently has severe flooding at an unprecedented level. Right now.

[BADecker]

Yes, (human-caused) global warming does cause dramatic weather events. Global warming means warmer on average across the whole planet. It means more extreme heatwaves and droughts, but it also means stronger hurricanes, heavier storms, more snow in winter - just not everywhere at the same time. My town currently has severe flooding at an unprecedented level. Right now.

When you study ALL the available info, you see that, if global warming is still active, and if it hasn't turned into global cooling, GW is so insignificant, that it is entirely unthreatening.

The lack of sun spots is showing us that we are going into a global cooling phase that might become an ice-age within 30 years.

[styca]

At some point (preferably early on), you have to look at who is providing the evidence, and what they have to gain or lose.

The evidence for global warming is provided by climate scientists. These are not millionaires with huge assets to protect, they are people like us, doing a job for normal pay, but they also happen to be highly qualified experts. They have nothing to gain or lose except, you know, the continuation of the human species. No money in it for them, no mansions and private jets. Just vitriol and threats from the ultra-right-wing.

Conversely, the "evidence" against global warming is provided by oil companies, the politicians who are in bed with them, and associated hangers-on. They have $$$ to lose. The rich elites will fuck you over any chance they get, and they're doing it again right now by denying climate change so they can continue to line their already fat wallets.

[Spendulus]

The scariest part is the areas of the globe that are already hot that will get hotter still, pushing the limit of human survivability. We are close already in places to temperatures where the human body cannot cool itself.
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/heatwave-unsurvivable-climate-change-india-pakistan-bangladesh-2100-global-warming-a7874016.html

Nobody is doubting that you can produce scary stories!

Reality of course is totally different.

And this has nothing to do with science. Cold has always killed orders of magnitude more people than heat.

Really, all you've been doing is spouting Climate Alarmist Memes. How about lets not confuse that with actual climate science, or anything of the sort?

It's not supportable rationally, but is just a belief system like religion.

[styca]

It's not supportable rationally, but is just a belief system like religion.

Okay, if we won't agree on what is genuine evidence, have a look at my post above yours - look at the sort of people who are on the same side of the debate as you, most notably big oil. Who gains and who loses if society accepts climate change as real?

[Dawkens]

Some people believe that global warming is just the conspiracy to control the development of industrial country. Sometime, I think so. What about you? 

at least we are testing right now how real it is by causing massive amounts of polluting emissions. We'll see in the few decades time. After that test is done, we can decide what to do. If we live in a hot world then we know it's real, but if we live on a cold one then it was a hoax. We will see

[BADecker]

It's not supportable rationally, but is just a belief system like religion.

Okay, if we won't agree on what is genuine evidence, have a look at my post above yours - look at the sort of people who are on the same side of the debate as you, most notably big oil. Who gains and who loses if society accepts climate change as real?

Political science has existed long before other sciences. Let's look at what people say.

 

[Spendulus]

It's not supportable rationally, but is just a belief system like religion.

Okay, if we won't agree on what is genuine evidence, have a look at my post above yours - look at the sort of people who are on the same side of the debate as you, most notably big oil. Who gains and who loses if society accepts climate change as real?

Well, Big Environmental gains.

But don't worry, you are not alone.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/11/08/meet-the-doomers-climate-worriers-so-extreme-other-radicals-avoid-them/

[styca]

Well, Big Environmental gains.

 

"Big Environmental" ? That's hilarious. You mean those fictional mighty multinational wind farm companies that are out to destroy the tiny helpless oil companies?

[BADecker]

Well, Big Environmental gains.

 

"Big Environmental" ? That's hilarious. You mean those fictional mighty multinational wind farm companies that are out to destroy the tiny helpless oil companies?

Right! We absolutely need more oil burned, so that we get more CO2 into the atmosphere, so that plants grow better, so that we have more warmth for the coming ice age.



EDIT: A Kubota diesel generator is very trustworthy, especially if it is one of the 3-cylinders, and uses Amsoil and Energy Release. You can set one of these up for yourself, to use the burned diesel fossil fuel to heat your house, and make your own electricity at the same time... which can be used to heat your house if you don't need much electricity for anything else. And the best thing you will be doing is, you will be adding more CO2 to the atmosphere so we will get a little more global warming... in the coming ice age.

[Spendulus]

Well, Big Environmental gains.

 

"Big Environmental" ? That's hilarious. You mean those fictional mighty multinational wind farm companies that are out to destroy the tiny helpless oil companies?

So you don't think there's big easy money in Big Environmental?

Hello, Solyndra.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/specialreports/solyndra-scandal/

[styca]

Well, Big Environmental gains.

 

"Big Environmental" ? That's hilarious. You mean those fictional mighty multinational wind farm companies that are out to destroy the tiny helpless oil companies?

So you don't think there's big easy money in Big Environmental?

Hello, Solyndra.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/specialreports/solyndra-scandal/

There's money everywhere.

I'm saying that the oil companies are vastly bigger and vastly more powerful. There are plenty with market caps in the tens and hundreds of billions of $. You'd struggle to find more than a handful of clean energy companies with caps over a few billion.

Do you own shares in Exxon?

[Eduarop]

This is the first time I’ve heard about theory that global warming is a myth. When did it appear?  What are its main arguments? All the proofs I found were like “Greenland in IX century was covered with grass”.

This simply shows you how the big money interests control the media so that they can covertly lead you into their one-world government.

Do you really believe in the existence of a one-world government?

I believe that there are those who are attempting to form a formal one-world government. How deep it exists in all governments is unknown, formally.

Well, I'm not sure the official government is more of a shadow government, but your theory has a right to life!

[paskah01]

Some people believe that global warming is just the conspiracy to control the development of industrial country. Sometime, I think so. What about you?  

Well,  global warming is indeed real. Like, man open your eyes it's everywhere. Could you elaborate with the words "conspiracy.."? Though we have reasons to be skeptics, the argument must be clear.. for me, i stand between agree and disagree.. but it's not the matter, the effects are real. Either it's a conspiracy or not, the effects are everywhere. Now i think we should focus on what we can and what we should do at this moment, small scale from ourselves. Try to not buy the frills from industrial products "eco friendly" label cause the truth is anything that create a mass scale productions is nearly impossible to be as "eco friendly" as they claim. I think we should focus on be a wise consumer and wise news reader at the same time.

Few weeks ago i read an interesting project about how blockchain technology can overcome this problem, this is not a clickbait. I personally think it's something anyone should know. That a technology can be one of the mass scale solutions. Though again, there are some negative points also.. "perfection" never exist.. here's the link in case you're curious:

https://blogchainzoo.com/climate-blockchange/

[paskah01]

yeah, It is real. becasue mankind was killing the Earth

I have a quiet unique sights for this.. Mankind killing the earth? I don't think so.. Theory of evolution by Darwin, only the strongest one could live, we humans try to survive but not all of us can survive. Earth is balancing itself. Human annoyed the mama, so mama earth make a strategy to get rid of humans.

Also, i think the earth is always and will stay balanced. Climate change is real, but it's not going to kill the earth, it's going to kill us. How old is our earth? How old is human being? There's no way the earth could die because of us, that's just silly. The possible ways earth can die is because of large space objects, the death of the sun which is billionnnnnsssss years in the future, etc. We underestimate the earth too much,

Sometimes its funny ,we talk about climate change and how earth is dying.. in fact it's climate change and how humans are going to kill theirselves.

By the way, it's just a thoughts of mine... i hope no one feel offended or something

[styca]

yeah, It is real. becasue mankind was killing the Earth

I have a quiet unique sights for this.. Mankind killing the earth? I don't think so.. Theory of evolution by Darwin, only the strongest one could live, we humans try to survive but not all of us can survive. Earth is balancing itself. Human annoyed the mama, so mama earth make a strategy to get rid of humans.

Also, i think the earth is always and will stay balanced. Climate change is real, but it's not going to kill the earth, it's going to kill us. How old is our earth? How old is human being? There's no way the earth could die because of us, that's just silly. The possible ways earth can die is because of large space objects, the death of the sun which is billionnnnnsssss years in the future, etc. We underestimate the earth too much,

Sometimes its funny ,we talk about climate change and how earth is dying.. in fact it's climate change and how humans are going to kill theirselves.

By the way, it's just a thoughts of mine... i hope no one feel offended or something

I agree with you. Human-caused global warming is real, and is a danger to human life and much animal life, but the Earth itself will certainly survive.

[BADecker]

^^^ Just because a bunch of people agree with something, doesn't make it true or false.

[Spendulus]

Some people believe that global warming is just the conspiracy to control the development of industrial country. Sometime, I think so. What about you?  

Well,  global warming is indeed real. Like, man open your eyes it's everywhere. Could you elaborate with the words "conspiracy.."? Though we have reasons to be skeptics, the argument must be clear.. for me, i stand between agree and disagree.. but it's not the matter, the effects are real. ...

Care to explain what it is you see that is so "real?"

[tvbcof]

yeah, It is real. becasue mankind was killing the Earth

I have a quiet unique sights for this.. Mankind killing the earth? I don't think so.. Theory of evolution by Darwin, only the strongest one could live, we humans try to survive but not all of us can survive. Earth is balancing itself. Human annoyed the mama, so mama earth make a strategy to get rid of humans.

Also, i think the earth is always and will stay balanced. Climate change is real, but it's not going to kill the earth, it's going to kill us. How old is our earth? How old is human being? There's no way the earth could die because of us, that's just silly. The possible ways earth can die is because of large space objects, the death of the sun which is billionnnnnsssss years in the future, etc. We underestimate the earth too much,

Sometimes its funny ,we talk about climate change and how earth is dying.. in fact it's climate change and how humans are going to kill theirselves.

By the way, it's just a thoughts of mine... i hope no one feel offended or something

Lol.  That 'insight' is not at all unique.  It is the standard doctrine of some of the eco-centered religious sects.

Handily enough there is nothing especially wrong with aligned 'wise men' helping the process along.  It doesn't fundamentally conflict with the idea that Mother Earth evolved means of getting what She wants/needs.  Their high-priest class is just the a tool in her tool kit.

It's pretty universal that religious sects develop philosophies which happen to be convenient for the leadership class of the sect.  It might be that people give a 10% of their wealth to God (by way of the church's coffers.)  Or it might be that the herd gets culled periodically (and if She uses the scient-priests that She created then that does make inherent sense as a way to "get 'er done.")